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Purdue played poorly, give IU credit

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Purdue was way off their game, which says something about this team.

I was bit surprised how much fire IU played with and how effective they were on offense. Trey G. killed us on layup after layup as they ran a good PnR.

IU just showed every team how to play us. Go 1:1 on our bigs and let TKR get his points, but harass our other 4 at the 3 pts line and force them inside.

Purdue seemed reluctant to side step and shot from three.
 
Purdue was way off their game, which says something about this team.

I was bit surprised how much fire IU played with and how effective they were on offense. Trey G. killed us on layup after layup as they ran a good PnR.

IU just showed every team how to play us. Go 1:1 on our bigs and let TKR get his points, but harass our other 4 at the 3 pts line and force them inside.

Purdue seemed reluctant to side step and shot from three.
I mean IU didn't do anything new and fancy. When we aren't hitting from three and when only TKR and Smith are doing any real damage on offense, we struggle. Not a surprise. When we have contributions from all top 8 players like OSU, we roll. When it's mostly Smith and TKR, it's a lot harder for us.
 
I’m not so sure Purdue was off their game. Maybe this game was closer to their game And their game against Michigan was the outlier.

IU is not really a bad team. They do actually some talent.

I agree they showed everyone how to beat Purdue. Let tkr have his 20 points and put pressure on our 3 point shooters and force them to create shots rather than just catch and shoot.

It’s disappointing even in winning, the team laid another egg at Mackey. As I said, despite our lofty rating, this could be closer to our norm than our fans want to admit.

Going forward, historically the March dance is determined by outstanding guard play. We need to become more creative than just be a perimeter shooting team. I constantly read about our new recruits being awesome 3 point shooters. Perhaps what we need are players known as playmakers and scorers rather than one dimensional shooters. Maybe that is why their rankings are not as high as others if all they can do is shoot 3 pointers.
 
IU is talented enough and probably played one of their toughest and most determined games of the season. Its the nature of a rivalry. They wanted that game and it showed in their effort and focus.

Also shows how poorly they've performed to date by not coming close to that same level very often.
 
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I’m not so sure Purdue was off their game. Maybe this game was closer to their game And their game against Michigan was the outlier.

IU is not really a bad team. They do actually some talent.

I agree they showed everyone how to beat Purdue. Let tkr have his 20 points and put pressure on our 3 point shooters and force them to create shots rather than just catch and shoot.

It’s disappointing even in winning, the team laid another egg at Mackey. As I said, despite our lofty rating, this could be closer to our norm than our fans want to admit.

Going forward, historically the March dance is determined by outstanding guard play. We need to become more creative than just be a perimeter shooting team. I constantly read about our new recruits being awesome 3 point shooters. Perhaps what we need are players known as playmakers and scorers rather than one dimensional shooters. Maybe that is why their rankings are not as high as others if all they can do is shoot 3 pointers.
Talent wise IU is likely the better team, says a lot about coaching that a team with 3 five star kids and 4 5-6th year players along with 2 other highly regarded transfers can’t win.
 
Purdue was way off their game, which says something about this team.

I was bit surprised how much fire IU played with and how effective they were on offense. Trey G. killed us on layup after layup as they ran a good PnR.

IU just showed every team how to play us. Go 1:1 on our bigs and let TKR get his points, but harass our other 4 at the 3 pts line and force them inside.

Purdue seemed reluctant to side step and shot from three.
Not sure there was anything unknown...IU just had the physical ability to do what we saw. IU tried to make it 2 pt shooting where they thought they were better, by focusing on not giving Purdue good looks behind the arc...and they did that. Oddly they still shot better behind the arc than Purdue. Their physical size on the perimeter (again this year) wanted to get in the lane and force a battle inside. I'll give IU credit and maybe Leal most of it, but they were tuned into the short pocket pass and defended it better than other team. Early fouls on Braden and Trey got Purdue in a bad spot early which appeared to be them just tripping over their own feet and was a play on and those early misses at the FT line kept the game closer early.

IU is improved with Leal and Goode playing much smarter inside the team than when they were not playing as much. IU has a lot of talent which was playing hard at Purdue and almost pulled it out. I thought Myles or Cam would be huge this game due to their size and athleticism on the boards, contesting the lane shots and possibly knocking down a few from behind the arc, but obviously they didn't end up being a huge plus for Purdue. I'm just really glad Braden plays for Purdue...
 
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My take: It is a rivalry game - IU is the underdog going into a hostile environment. If they are ever going to come ready to play it was last night. Most of the pressure was on us to protect our home court and to not lose to another unranked team and our rival at home. A loss would have been a major surprise and disappointment. Because of that I think we were tight especially from long range. As far as the way to beat Purdue or almost beat Purdue - everyone knows if they can harass our guards enough and play good defense against our guards, they have a chance. That is nothing new. IU definitely has some talented players and Galloway is super experienced and gave us fits. I am just happy we won the game! As far as Purdue I think we will play better and more loose in the future having gotten this game behind them. From a pressure standpoint - this was probably the most high-pressure game of the season!
 
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IU is talented enough and probably played one of their toughest and most determined games of the season. Its the nature of a rivalry. They wanted that game and it showed in their effort and focus.

Also shows how poorly they've performed to date by not coming close to that same level very often.

Candidly - could be top 5 conference or better with that effort and execution consistently and tweaking the line-up. On the flip side, Goode and Galloway can really give Purdue fits more so than some of their other conference match-ups. Woodson also has a pretty darn good game plan most of the time against Purdue.

They definitely have enough talent and pieces to be a NCAA Tournament team - they'll need some really good wins coming up to get there, however. How much do they want it?
 
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I’m not so sure Purdue was off their game. Maybe this game was closer to their game And their game against Michigan was the outlier.

IU is not really a bad team. They do actually some talent.

I agree they showed everyone how to beat Purdue. Let tkr have his 20 points and put pressure on our 3 point shooters and force them to create shots rather than just catch and shoot.

It’s disappointing even in winning, the team laid another egg at Mackey. As I said, despite our lofty rating, this could be closer to our norm than our fans want to admit.

Going forward, historically the March dance is determined by outstanding guard play. We need to become more creative than just be a perimeter shooting team. I constantly read about our new recruits being awesome 3 point shooters. Perhaps what we need are players known as playmakers and scorers rather than one dimensional shooters. Maybe that is why their rankings are not as high as others if all they can do is shoot 3 pointers.
We? It's been clear for quite some time you aren't a Purdue fan.

There is no "disappointing even in winning" and is a ridiculous thing to say especially considering this was a rivalry game and Indinia was going to act like it was their national title game. We have an outstanding guard that quite literally carried a team that was in foul trouble and not playing well to a win by NOT being one dimensional and passing. stealing and scoring as needed. Loyer also wasn't "one dimensional" in that he drove several times to the lane and didn't settle for 3s

As usual your post is 100% off the mark.
 
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I’m not so sure Purdue was off their game. Maybe this game was closer to their game And their game against Michigan was the outlier.

IU is not really a bad team. They do actually some talent.

I agree they showed everyone how to beat Purdue. Let tkr have his 20 points and put pressure on our 3 point shooters and force them to create shots rather than just catch and shoot.

It’s disappointing even in winning, the team laid another egg at Mackey. As I said, despite our lofty rating, this could be closer to our norm than our fans want to admit.

Going forward, historically the March dance is determined by outstanding guard play. We need to become more creative than just be a perimeter shooting team. I constantly read about our new recruits being awesome 3 point shooters. Perhaps what we need are players known as playmakers and scorers rather than one dimensional shooters. Maybe that is why their rankings are not as high as others if all they can do is shoot 3 pointers.
Before you jump off your own cliff, let us know before then we can watch! Man, grow some will yeah! If your dissapointed in winning then you have a problem. IU played great, they made it close, but still lost. Man, why do some guys type BS!
 
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I went into this game not understanding why people were so cocky about winning by 20+ and when the subs were going to come in. I came out of it the same way. I'm not going to fully agree with Wole because he takes it too far, but I will say that Indinia is better than the public (not just Purdue people) say they are. IMO, Goode is a real leader on this team, and he brings so many intangibles that help the team. We had no answer for their right-side-of-the-lane drives. They did it all game long. Either a floater or a lob to Ballo after help or a cross-court pass to Mgbako or Goode. Leal was solid. Not sure why he's been on the bench for 3 years.

Purdue didn't play great, but Purdue certainly didn't "lay another egg in Mackey." Take the win in a rivalry game and move on to Iowa.
 
When you look at two key stats, Purdue's performance reminds me of the glory days of RMK. Turnovers = IU 20, PU 10 & PU made more free throws than IU attempted. Congratulations on the win.
 
Kudos to iu guards I guess, who took advantage of the physical play the refs allowed them. They constantly used their off arm to dislocate the Purdue guards. This was evident throughout, but on Galloway's last score where he chucked Harris so hard things stood still as everyone expected a call, none given & Galloway scored.
 
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Kudos to iu guards I guess, who took advantage of the physical play the refs allowed them. They constantly used their off arm to dislocate the Purdue guards. This was evident throughout, but on Galloway's last score where he chucked Harris so hard things stood still as everyone expected a call, none given & Galloway scored.
Yeah Woody can’t whine about a foul on the last play when Galloway was shoving Gicarri off the TV screen to get himself open.
 
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Yeah Woody can’t whine about a foul on the last play when Galloway was shoving Gicarri off the TV screen to get himself open.
I think he even expected a call as he stood still and seemed surprised when none came. Take away those points and the game is pretty much over at that juncture.

It was just a very poorly officiated game all the way around... so much so I almost missed ol high knees.
 
That was the first time I have seen the mercenaries play this year, and even though they wear clown pants, they were tough. We were lucky to win.
 
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Purdue was way off their game, which says something about this team.

I was bit surprised how much fire IU played with and how effective they were on offense. Trey G. killed us on layup after layup as they ran a good PnR.

IU just showed every team how to play us. Go 1:1 on our bigs and let TKR get his points, but harass our other 4 at the 3 pts line and force them inside.

Purdue seemed reluctant to side step and shot from three.
Poor 3 point shooting and rebounding. I doubt we can turn them over at the rate we did last night in a rematch. Need someone besides smith and renn to hit some shots and everyone has to get an exra rebound. Those two improvements are the key the remainder of the season imo. Colvin, Cox, and Furst all have shown flashes.
 
Happy with the win. I'm jumping on the fire Mike Woodson bandwagon only Calipari has done less with the talent level Woodson has. Older teams are the way to go these days when you can't win with a custom-built team it has to come down to coaching. Here is what I think has happened between IU and Purdue. IU chose to play a weak non-conference schedule they avoided losses to Auburn and Marquette on the road but playing cupcakes leaves you unprepared for league play where there are no cupcakes. IMO Woodson lost this game and the Maryland game in November. It's the same thing with freshmen they struggle because they have no experience in certain environments. Why pay over 5 million to players you try and hide from adversity? Woodson no matter how much IU spends won't be a Painter or Izzo type of coach and neither will any of his assistants. If the coach doesn't trust his players, they won't trust him. Been there done that! Well clearly IU hasn't.
 
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That was the first time I have seen the mercenaries play this year, and even though they wear clown pants, they were tough. We were lucky to win.
I started to use "lucky" in another post and settled on "fortunate" thinking it might be more accurate.
 
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