Wouldn't mind playing MICH, MN & Iowa.....for revenge alone.
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Wouldn't mind playing MICH, MN & Iowa.....for revenge alone.
Smotherman would have helped as another decent size defender on the perimeter against the um bigs
Yes losing him...losing Taylor...both of those affected inside player versatility and depth
So, you believe Purdue needs to make sure they're switching on their first D possession and keep doing that as long it's fairly effective, correct?
I agree with that, to start out the game (at least through the first four minutes, then evaluate from there).
Personally, I would start in Purdue's base defense with a hard hedge on the screener and Vince guarding Wagner and Biggie on Wilson. If one or the other got hot, I'd change to switching all the time but do so quicker than Coach Painter did in the first game.
Wagner made 1 or less threes in 10 of 18 B1G games this year.
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This is why I doubt you and Hamcoboiler see your wishes..and it is strictly a guess on my part, but a reasoned guess. First coaches are not idiots...even if some are ...there will be some on the bench that are not. Coach Beilein is a great offensive coach. If you switch everything, then no doubt you give a great advantage to the team that forces a switch unless all five defenders are of similar capabilities...Like Louisville when they won it under Crum. Purdue had PJ on a big a couple of times in the lane and MIchigan did NOT take advantage of it, but will this time. I would be shocked if Purdue plays Michigan and Michigan has not talked about the options if Purdue switches all the time. I would expect that to be a disaster in the next game, but perhaps Beilein...Meyer...others are not as smart as I give them credit.
That said I can see Biggie and Vince switching everything and Cline and Dakota doing the same. I can even see the possibility of all horizontal screens being switched (guard to guard, forward to forward or center) and possibly switching vertical switches if it keeps the bigs in tight...remember though if you switch on all players all the offense has to do is remove the help defense and then take whatever advantage they have where ever the matchup issue is they want to take advantage. Consequently, I don't see much difference in how Purdue will play the D other than more focus, more hustle and maybe another step towards the ball and still being able to recover appropriately. Purdue's normal shell defense will be practiced and extended with hustle adn focus being addressed.
I don't recall a single time (I could be wrong if someone knows) that Purdue got beat on a back-door cut. That would have been more of an issue years ago when Purdue extended the pressure. You do want to bump all cutters and play position D so that only the inside arm is in the passing lane and the backcut is not there rather than more denial D. A zone will not be employed for all the thousands of reasons I have typed in the past a little, but more because that is not who Purdue is, who Purdue was or who Purdue will be. When Michigan places 5 behind the arc and Purdue is in a 2-3...with one person that absolutely guards nobody (who in the middle of that zone guards the arc...who defends the pass to the baseline corner shot if not in a 2-3?), Michigan has guaranteed a wide open shot to someone not being guarded...and Michigan can place 5 behind the arc...and will for a few seconds per possession. I'm sure Michigan likes their chances if one of their five is guaranteed at least one wide open shot per possession. What coach wouldn't love a wide open shot per possession and the ability to shoot at least three into gaps for long boards if a miss where inside position may not be as important as close shots)
Again, this is guess work on my part and I very easily could be wrong, but listed my concerns if wrong. I believe Purdue stays with the base D that has carried them all year. I believe that Matt puts Vince on Wagner to start and switches when needed per possession between Wager and Wilson. I believe that Cline and Dakota switch when they have to as well...and PJ a more reluctant swithc because Walton beats the others off the dribble. It sure would be nice if CArsen gets tuned in and provides solid D on Walton and makes Walton play good D on him. Now if Purdue gets burned and both Wagner and Wilson are into it...it may result in more switching to contain the drive more...but that is not a good situation for Purdue anyway...but doubt that happens.
Michigan has to guard the best team in teh Big as well and one game on senior day in a gym that has been very friendly to Michigan does not mean it will carry elsewhere on a different day. Michigan will have Purdue's attention if that is who they play and that alone will make for a different day.
We shall see what Purdue does in D if the play...and of course they have to beat Illinois which brings up a totally different scenario for Purdue D. Soon we shall know...
You're right, they're not idiots, but they can be stubborn and prideful to the point where it gets in the way of admitting that they could try to better learn and utilize other schemes in general.
So much irony with the words bolded above coming from you. For example, it's been explained to you time and time again how not only zone not needed here, it would have at best very minimal effect in our defensive efficiency. Yet you choose to be stubborn and prideful then make comments like your last line in the quote above.
It's simply your opinion and nothing more that we would be better utilizing other schemes Yet even though that has been basically shown by many, many others to just not be true, in your infinite stubborn and prideful nature you not only can't let it go, you can't admit you are wrong. We get it, you think you are right even though it's been shown you aren't , but your stubborn and prideful nature just prevents you from seeing it.
I wish I could remember the story better of the little girl that knew that ghost came into her room when the lights went out. She called her dad frightened one night of all teh ghosts in her room adn when her dad enter the room and turned on the lights the little girl exclaimed how right she was that now with the lights on ..all the ghosts have left the room. Sometimes, we as humans are like that in how we interpret data and such. My comments above were my guess about what I thought Matt would do if facing MIchigan on defense. I don't think any of us think we will see a zone against anyone, let alone a team built on being a threat behind the line...and if Purdue were to play a zone I'm not sure that a 2-3 which would be Purdue's best zone for general defense would be the best against Michigan. When a team has no center threat a hole in the center like a 1-2-2 might be effective, but do we want Biggie or Vince chasing the corner shot in that zone...and what happens to Haas? I also mentioned some potential problems with switching all positions because Michigan will take advantage of that...hence my thoughts on base D with Vince on Wagner early and whatever player may play the perimeter more...
Here's the box score from today's Michigan-Illinois game:
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/boxscore?gameId=400945735
They have to keep Wagner, Wilson, and Duncan Robinson off of the 3PT line and contain Walton, MAAR, and Irvin as well as they can.
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/boxscore?gameId=400945735
They have to keep Wagner, Wilson, and Duncan Robinson off of the 3PT line and contain Walton, MAAR, and Irvin as well as they can.
It's a good thing we run man-to-man then which when done properly, does just that.
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