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Purdue/Kansas overview

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He's a very athletic "mouse" and Swanigan is only an inch taller than him (if that; I know Biggie's heavier). A "mouse in the house" would be Swanigan or Haas being guarded by Mason or Graham, not Jackson.
 
I know that and as I said I would be VERY surprised for him to do that as I said above. Why, what is he trying to do? The original posteer even suggested that Purdue had too many ways of scoring. I can list a lot of reasons why that would not work if Purdue had a normal game. If scoring came from one or two people...possible, but Purdue has more than 1 or 2 that can score and a box, diamond or triangle is a bad zone and if it shut down teh guards...Vince, Biggie and Hass would love that defense. Sure you could sau Purdue bigs are not a threat outside underneath...but that is not true...or at least hasn't been. YOU could even say, I'll play Biggie (rather than a guard) with the man and play the box on the others and DAkota, PJ Cline, Carsen would love that as biggie could take his man away from the zone and just look to score off of rebounds...or if Biggie is the man played man...just pick the back side of the box or diamond of the 4 players playing zone and Haas is happy. Most always a junk defense (doesn't have to be) is to playh tight on 1 or two perimeter players and zone on the others...and that zone is not near as big when you remove a player form playing it.

I understood what he said...and that is why I said I doubt it....
let me add that when I call it a junk defense...that is a term that is used, not to imply it couldn't be useful under ceertain conditions. Others call it a combination defense in that some play man and others play zone...a "combined" defense...
 
This what I started looking at today as well. If he's not a big threat to drive the basketball then Swanigan should be able to guard him and we can go big when KU has both him and Lucas in together.
Course you lose teh rebounding if you Put Biggie on a real threat on the perimeter.
 
Course you lose teh rebounding if you Put Biggie on a real threat on the perimeter.

You lose some rebounding but you can also keep Vince on Jackson and Haas stays down low in the paint against their big. Sounds like if we wanted to go super big we may have some opportunities in this one without having to give up open 3 after open 3. It could be a good way to keep Biggie out of foul trouble in the first half too.
 
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Course you lose teh rebounding if you Put Biggie on a real threat on the perimeter.

I wouldn't say you give it up entirely. He still will work to get in position to grab rebounds. I remember one play this year where he contested a three pointer on the perimeter and then retrieved the rebound in the paint before it even hit the floor I believe. Probably the most impressive thing I've seen him do all year.
 
You lose some rebounding but you can also keep Vince on Jackson and Haas stays down low in the paint against their big. Sounds like if we wanted to go super big we may have some opportunities in this one without having to give up open 3 after open 3. It could be a good way to keep Biggie out of foul trouble in the first half too.[/QUOTE

It may keep him out of foul trouble...I don't know if that guy can't put the ball down at all...I just don't know. I really doubt Purdue plays all three very much, but they might try it for a few? There is no sub for all three with Basil gone and that lineup (that I wished I would have seen a bit more) was not as productive as opening up the court with more perimeter players that were quicker adn is how Purdue got the lineup it did. I just don't know much about Kansas. The very little ...very little I got to see Purdue is going to need active D on Mason. Is that true on Graham and the guy with the funky name? Being ignorant of Kansas, it might not surprise me to see if Dakota can make Jackson work to get the ball more than usual and depend on help when he looks for a lob underneath or goes low...course now where does the help come from...it would be nice if Vince could guard a guy that is not a breakl you donw type player and help with Jackson...and then those two could switch their roles...I just don't know what kind of a player Graham and the funky name guy are. Are they spot up shooters, or scorers wiht a variety of skills...what?
 
I wouldn't say you give it up entirely. He still will work to get in position to grab rebounds. I remember one play this year where he contested a three pointer on the perimeter and then retrieved the rebound in the paint before it even hit the floor I believe. Probably the most impressive thing I've seen him do all year.
I know..sometimes it depends on bounces..when he guarded Wagner I think he got 5 boards..hopeful he gets 15 Thursday :)
 
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You lose some rebounding but you can also keep Vince on Jackson and Haas stays down low in the paint against their big. Sounds like if we wanted to go super big we may have some opportunities in this one without having to give up open 3 after open 3. It could be a good way to keep Biggie out of foul trouble in the first half too.

VE needs to have one of his best defensive games of the season (he's had a few good ones: Notre Dame and at Maryland come to mind) to short-circuit Jackson's offensive output.
 
VE needs to have one of his best defensive games of the season (he's had a few good ones: Notre Dame and at Maryland come to mind) to short-circuit Jackson's offensive output.

And stay out of foul trouble. Vince has had that issue creep up a few times recently.
 
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4 major things decide this game:

1) Foul trouble- when and who and who steps up when starters out
2) Making Free Throws- who gets there more and makes them
3) Rebounding on both ends- active and limits possessions
4) Score obviously

Depth-both teams have
Size-Purdue
Quickness- Kansas
Heart-Purdue wants it bad
Coaching- Self is proven and Painter on his way to being proven soon enough

Summary:
Going to be a great game for the players and fans with many lead changes.....but lots of empty offensive possessions on each side, which is why rebounding will be key.

Pretty even game going into the half with say Purdue 31 Kansas 32......

Purdue plays to it's strengths and gets Kansas into foul trouble by feeding the post and pulls away because Kansas tries to shoot the 3 ball to catch up, but goes cold at the end and Purdue capitalizes and hits clutch free throws and a 3 pointer down the stretch to pull away.

The key point in the game will be who tries to go up tempo to speed up the game but it leads to misses or empty possessions on the offensive side thus giving the other team more chances to score.

Purdue needs to take smart shots and not have too many empty possessions in a row.....I think this will be stressed over and over by Painter and every time down make the shot, get a foul on Kansas and make our free throws.

Won't be the sexiest game with a high score in 80's or 90's but a win is a win.....

Will be more like a physical chess match.......can't wait!

Purdue 74 Kansas 71
 
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4 major things decide this game:

1) Foul trouble- when and who and who steps up when starters out
2) Making Free Throws- who gets there more and makes them
3) Rebounding on both ends- active and limits possessions
4) Score obviously

Depth-both teams have
Size-Purdue
Quickness- Kansas
Heart-Purdue wants it bad
Coaching- Self is proven and Painter on his way to being proven soon enough

Summary:
Going to be a great game for the players and fans with many lead changes.....but lots of empty offensive possessions on each side, which is why rebounding will be key.

Pretty even game going into the half with say Purdue 31 Kansas 32......

Purdue plays to it's strengths and gets Kansas into foul trouble by feeding the post and pulls away because Kansas tries to shoot the 3 ball to catch up, but goes cold at the end and Purdue capitalizes and hits clutch free throws and a 3 pointer down the stretch to pull away.

The key point in the game will be who tries to go up tempo to speed up the game but it leads to misses or empty possessions on the offensive side thus giving the other team more chances to score.

Purdue needs to take smart shots and not have too many empty possessions in a row.....I think this will be stressed over and over by Painter and every time down make the shot, get a foul on Kansas and make our free throws.

Won't be the sexiest game with a high score in 80's or 90's but a win is a win.....

Will be more like a physical chess match.......can't wait!

Purdue 74 Kansas 71

As you touched on, there's a lot of factors involved when it comes to playing as good of a team as this.

For Iowa State, we outrebounded them by 10, had 10 turnovers which is a pretty good number for us, had 4 more shot attempts, was +6 on offensive rebounds, we shot 48%, held ISU to 30% from 3, and had 27 assists. If I knew that - I'd say we won - not in a blowout, but not a buzzer beater. And obviously we did win, but we squeaked it out.

On the other side, we shot 31% from 3, only had 1 more free throw attempt and Iowa State shot 50% overall. I might guess we lost based on those, but the negative stats were few and far between.

Going into Kansas, I think we have to do those standard keys for Purdue - rebound well, limit turnovers, have good ball movement/assists, etc. - but our 3 ball has to be better. It doesn't need to be absurd, but we're not going to be able to shoot 30% from 3 and win this game. This will be a game where we probably have to work to free up the inside a bit more - Kansas' weak spot is inside, but they still have more size on their team that can provide help than Iowa State did.

Additionally, any free throw advantage will be a bonus, but I don't anticipate it - or a lot of free throws in general.

Overall, I think it's going to take Purdue's best game of the year to win this one. Being there at halftime will be key - digging a hole will be tough to overcome.
 
He's talking about Kansas occasionally playing a triangle-and-two or box-and-one, not Purdue. KU famously played some of both in their win at Kentucky this season.
I believe we will definitely throw some junk defense at them early just to see how it works out.
 
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From this Kansas fan to all boilers... Good luck! I've thought to myself for the last couple of months that I did NOT want KU to run into you guys in the tourney. I knew your bigs would pose a great challenge. May the best team win!

P.S. beware of Graham skipping down the court. If he does this he will not miss the rest of the game
 
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Does anyone have any final thoughts about this game as we inch closer to the tip-off?
 
Does anyone have any final thoughts about this game as we inch closer to the tip-off?
As with most games, the first two minutes are crucial...but this concern comes from how the game will be called for our bigs inside. The refs have been calling the games closer in the tourney and the bodes wel for Purdue if they can get the ball inside to get Kansas' bigs in trouble.
 
As with most games, the first two minutes are crucial...but this concern comes from how the game will be called for our bigs inside. The refs have been calling the games closer in the tourney and the bodes wel for Purdue if they can get the ball inside to get Kansas' bigs in trouble.

good point

The Boilers will have to adjust to how the game is being officiated. It seemed like several players (not necessarily the bigs) were reaching in on defense when they played Vermont, but I didn't notice that as much when they played Iowa State.

Since this is essentially a home game for Kansas (and because Kansas is a blue-blood program), I'm anticipating some homer no-calls in the paint for the Jayhawks' D and some ticky-tack fouls in the paint on Purdue. This team just has to play through that and rise above it.

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As a KU fan mentioned earlier in this thread, Mykhailiuk is considered their worst defensive player among their starters (and possibly out of all their regulars as well). If CMP and Purdue can create some sets where they end up having Mykhailiuk isolated one-on-one, that should create higher percentage scoring opportunities.
 
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