8 TO in 1st Quarter but only down by 2, make that 9 TO and then fouled a 3 pt shooter just before the horn. End of Q 1 down 15-11.
Purdue at Oregon
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Our starting 5 combine for 8 first half points. I think we already have 15 turnovers.
Correction. 17 turnovers at halftime. More like a middle school game, lol.
35-23 at half. Bass played the second quarter and is now our leading scorer with 6. Jones and Swanson with 5. Collier, McCarthy, and Lombard scoreless and we are still out rebounding them 21-15 but no longer out shooting them. All 9 boilers that have played have at least one turnover and Jones leads with 5.
OU 52- Purdue 36 end of third. Sophomores showing out this game given the chance to shine finally. Layden leads the team in rebounding with 8 and has 6 points. Jones leads in scoring, assists, and cough cough turnovers with 9, 3 and 6. Swanson also has 7 points. By class Sophs have 22 points, 12 rebounds and 4 assists along with the only block (Layden) in the game for the boilers. Seniors have 6 points, 7 rebounds and 1 assist between the 4 of them, and the frosh have 8 points, 7 rebounds, and one assist between the 3 of them with McCarthy having the assist. Purdue only added 3 turnovers that quarter, but the Ducks have smelled blood in the water and are going after us hard.
69 = 53 final.
Seniors 10 points between the 4 of them, although Petree only played a few minutes
Frosh 10 points between the 3 of them.
Sophs 33 points between the 3 of them.
Layden and Jones showed they should have been starting all season long so far leading the team in scoring, rebounding, and assists. Swanson chipped in 7 points, good for third on the team behind Jones 17 and Layden's 9.
Only 6 turnovers in the second half, but Oregon heated up on offense. Still won the rebounding battle 33-31.
Seniors 10 points between the 4 of them, although Petree only played a few minutes
Frosh 10 points between the 3 of them.
Sophs 33 points between the 3 of them.
Layden and Jones showed they should have been starting all season long so far leading the team in scoring, rebounding, and assists. Swanson chipped in 7 points, good for third on the team behind Jones 17 and Layden's 9.
Only 6 turnovers in the second half, but Oregon heated up on offense. Still won the rebounding battle 33-31.
17 turnovers in the first half did us in. This team isn't built to come back from deficits, and with how offensively challenged we are, we need to get a shot off as much as possible each possession down the court. Hard to do with 17 first half turnovers.
Negatives - Turnovers^
Collier - 31 mins. 0-2. Battled on the boards but for as much as she plays, she brings no threat driving to the hoop, isn't making plays for other teammates. She's probably in the right spot defensively but has her limits athletically. I wouldn't mind seeing Swanson take some of her minutes.
Positives -
Spider Jones - yes 6 turnovers, and most of them were horrendous, but she played much better in the 2nd half, maybe had 1 TO? in the 2nd. 17 points on 8-10. Drove the ball, had her mid range going. 4 asts as well. She's the only player as of now that can get to the bucket and create for others. Said it before, she's at her best when she's driving to score. When she's driving to pass, the bad outcomes are more likely to appear.
Layden - 9 points(career high?), 9 rebs. She was active defensively and battled down low. Good first start, I'd like to see her start the rest of the year and log heavy minutes. You can see her gaining confidence. She also does a relatively good job protecting the ball.
Final thoughts -
We really need a point guard who can take care of the ball, create open looks for everyone, and be a threat scoring wise. Reynolds and Poole need more minutes to see if one or both are able to play at this level.
Negatives - Turnovers^
Collier - 31 mins. 0-2. Battled on the boards but for as much as she plays, she brings no threat driving to the hoop, isn't making plays for other teammates. She's probably in the right spot defensively but has her limits athletically. I wouldn't mind seeing Swanson take some of her minutes.
Positives -
Spider Jones - yes 6 turnovers, and most of them were horrendous, but she played much better in the 2nd half, maybe had 1 TO? in the 2nd. 17 points on 8-10. Drove the ball, had her mid range going. 4 asts as well. She's the only player as of now that can get to the bucket and create for others. Said it before, she's at her best when she's driving to score. When she's driving to pass, the bad outcomes are more likely to appear.
Layden - 9 points(career high?), 9 rebs. She was active defensively and battled down low. Good first start, I'd like to see her start the rest of the year and log heavy minutes. You can see her gaining confidence. She also does a relatively good job protecting the ball.
Final thoughts -
We really need a point guard who can take care of the ball, create open looks for everyone, and be a threat scoring wise. Reynolds and Poole need more minutes to see if one or both are able to play at this level.
It's crazy to me how Poole is being played. 7 minutes against MSU, no minutes against UCLA, start and get 11 minutes against Michigan, and then DNP again against Oregon.
Amiyah starts several games, but gets single digit minutes in many/most of them.
Collier still starting even though her numbers in Big Ten play are atrocious. She leads the team in minutes played at 29.5, but averages 4.5 ppg which is 7th on the team and the greatest shooter Katie Gearlds has EVER seen is shooting a blistering 30% fro the field and from behind the arc.
Another positive I would mention is our freshmen posts held their own against 6'8" Kyei. Kyei still got 12 points, but she did not dominate us the way you might think a senior that big might.
Tough to grow with inconsistent minutes like that.
Swanson has some turnover issues but that's about everyone else on the team. Her shot selection could be better, but she is just more dynamic offensively and defensively compared to Collier. She's still very young, considering she didn't even play that much last season(12.6 mins). Give her some leash and let her grow. Jones had a big leash yesterday and played better for it in the 2nd half.
CKG has been quick to bench alot of players for bad play. I get wanting to teach players lessons and especially in tight games, these turnovers could be killer, but we haven't been in tight games. Let these underclassmen work through their turnovers/mistakes.
The posts were alright yesterday but we double teamed Kyei alot. When she wasn't double teamed, she had her way. My biggest issue with the posts right now is the ball screen coverage. Our guards are left out to dry on screens, while our posts sit back protecting the drive. Oregon hit alot of mid range jumpers because of this.
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I agree on the growth with inconsistent minutes statement. Its one of the reasons CKG frustrates me and its been a characteristic of her coaching from day 1. Learn would play 28 minutes and have a great game, then next game only get 2minutes. Its not just hard to get growth as a player with those kinds of inconsistent minutes, its hard to mentally prepare for games not knowing if or how much you are going to play from one game to the next.
I am even more confused by CKG's coaching. I did not watch the Oregon game, just followed along on the play by play on ESPN. But against Betts, the best center in the nation, we did not double team and left our posts out on an island against her nearly the whole game. Part of that was us trying to play a lot of zone against UCLA which was totally ineffective. Our posts for the past two decades nearly always play drop coverage on screens, its part of the Versyp/Gearlds coaching philosophy. Its not very effective, but its what we do.
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I have to admit I tapped out after the first quarter 9 turnovers. I did check back in with the radio every now and then to see if things were getting better. I'm doing my best to be supportive, but it is darn hard to come up with the reasons, except the "we are young".
Exactly, however, a D-2 transfer (not mad at her) in her Sr year shouldn’t be playing 30 minutes a night. If she was lighting it up that would be one thing, she’s not. Right now girls like Layden, Reynolds, Poole, Swanson, Puryear, McCarthy, Spider need to be getting the majority of minutes, Lombard and Bass should be getting max 15 minutes a night, Collier 5-10 max.
Collier was NAIA, not even D2 or D3. She might be a competent player if she'd had D2 experience.
If you want to watch the rest of the game that you missed, you can get replays on Big+. (VBG)
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