Is there any basis in fact for this interesting stereotype, beyond CMP’s preference for motion offense and man-to-man defense?
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Purdue at Indiana: MASTER DISCUSSION THREAD
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Asking for a friend….
We are pretenders. These four games are a common denominator.
Season over...will barely make a dent in either tourney.
Season over...will barely make a dent in either tourney.
Next year, Galloway will be gone after 8-9 seasons with the Hoosiers, our 7'4" center will be back and Mike Woodson will be replaced with some carpetbagger goofus. We'll be OK.
Did the US roll over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
Did the bucknuts roll over when meatchicken trounced them in the shoe in Nov, and everyone had written them off?
Our lads will not roll over either.
What does this have to do with Purdue as a whole? Who cares about IU.
Your avi pic fits this post. Let's compare Pearl Harbor to a college basketball program in 2025. LOL
The credibility of a guy like Furst, who complains after almost every call, is zero. If Colvin or Cox had that reaction it would have a truckload more credibility.
Check that replay- Leal wasn’t facing him. As Leal got up his heel kicked back. Hell — for all I know Leal was completely trying to kick him in the nuts! But he missed.
I’m certain Leal missed his nuts because Furst did his usual throw his hands up and complain without any concern for what should have been a ‘very sensitive injury’.
You did notice the part about Germany, right? That part was intentionally inaccurate (look it up or ask bni), drawing comparison to another downtrodden group of college guys who fought back against the odds. Our lads can do the same...
What? Do you have to be looking at someone to throw a kick? There's a reason I said Leal is a dirty player. Dirty players do shit like that. They sneak in a cheap shot and pretend nothing ever happened.
I care about Woody being forced out. Today proved he deserves more time.
So you’re saying that Leal tried to foul him but missed?
Maybe so, but that’s some next level mind reading.
Btw —- Painter’s post game press conference was about as perfect a lesson in accountability and crystal clear no bullshit truth telling as there can possibly be.
Painter’s take on the Leal non-foul? Not a problem whatsoever. He was really pissed about the TKR flagrant and I agree.
Painter’s post game is such a much watch. Major major kudos.
I'll add to cover Trey on the short roll. IU upped the D I don't know if any of those should have been fouls, but the lack of poise and dribble penetration into the lane is what hurt Purdue. It seemed like to me the turnovers were self inflicted rather than the result of the D even though IU increased the pressure. Maybe less looking to Braden to give the ball up when pressured and instead attacking under control the pressure reduces the overplay. It sort of reminded my of the OSU game the way Purdue started the half. Not that I know anything more than the coaches, but realizing how they were going to come out I would have liked to see some backscreens and back cuts to soften the pressure...perhaps even a clear out...but none of that happened and maybe none of that would have mattered
That guy acts like every play is a foul. He's the biggest flopper/complainer in the B1G and it's. It even close. That IU troll is a turd if he thinks differently....you know he will though.
I really want Mason back. He's averaging 14.6 mins/game at Duke. Just imagine...
That is not the point. I already stated why I thought we might see Berg on Ballo before the game. Who would think that knowing he hasn't been off the bench much for the last 15-20 games? Apparently Matt thought the same thing. It really isn't any different of an approach that IU a few years ago when Durr came in to be physical with Trevion. Matt wasn't thinking Berg was going to be great. he thought he could physically hold his own against a guy that is physical, but not skilled and give Trey some rest as needed. It wasn't a coincidence that Berg played against Ballo. It had no effect on the game. Ballo missed his FTs similar to a turnover and the other foul advanced the team fouls...still a calculated try...
Big props to you for telling the truth about Furst.
And every fanbase and board that plays Purdue agrees and discusses it.
Have you ever done martial arts? Pretty easy to strike someone when not looking. No mind reading necessary. He didn't kick him hard, but he made contact. I'm not blind. Again, no mind reading necessary. There's no need to quickly extend your foot into someone's crotch to accelerate in the opposite direction.
Regarding Furst's response, not every kick/punch is gonna hurt the same amount each time. Maybe he's tougher than you are? Maybe he sick and tired of having bullshit calls go against him?
And what about the "recalled" foul against Leal that was called on the floor. More bullshit.
Regarding Painter, he never (yes, never) complains about the refs. Maybe he should. I can't think of a stretch of consecutive games where Purdue has been so railroaded by the refs. Not saying they were the only reason Purdue lost (certainly not), but the officials were definitely one-sided today.
Hell, my IU buddies were just talking about it and how they can't wait until he's gone. 😂... true stuff.
That kick would’ve made draymond green proud. The fact you’re trying to act like it wasn’t intentional shows what a homer dumbass you are.
He didn't hold his own. He didn't hold his own so much that Painter immediately took him out for the rest of the game. It wasn't that Berg wasn't great. It was that he wasn't competitive at all.
Again, THAT is not the issue even though others didn't hold their own. The point was that it was a calculated attempt as a remedy to some problems recently with Trey and fouls against a specific player. I doubt anyone in this forum expected it even though I wasn't surprised. Matt out of the blue tried it and there were calculated reasons why he tried it. You really don't think Matt had no reason for doing what he did do you? Of course he had thought some things out. I can't say I expect it with other teams, but there could be an occasion. He puts people in the game all the time anticipating they are what is needed at the moment...with mixed results. Most the time that eliminated Berg, Ballo didn't.
just like a turnover. Had more fouls to give if needed...
Common theme during the losing streak has been Smith. Was being considered for Big Ten Player of the Year and just disappeared for 4 games.
Furst has balls of steel. He told the ref and the ref called the flagrant foul.
Only an idiot like you would think it wasn't intentional.
I mean people are on here complaining about Berg and not one word about Smith. He had almost as many TO's/Points. He has flat out let this team down the last 4 games. He's our leader/PG and should be able to get this team in it's proper sets. He's being aggressively guarded beyond the arc but doesn't have the speed to get around people.
People have a reason for everything they do bud, it doesn't make every single decision they make a good one.
Berg. Is. Not. Capable.
Yeah Painter tried something and it ended just like we all thought it would.
I mean Smith has played progressively worse four games in a row. His leadership has been piss poor. I just think some of it is the guy has been playing 40 minutes a game most games and the toll is now being paid mentally and physically.
Those drives are getting blocked. Those cute passes are getting stolen. The fancy dribbles are being turned over. I think some of that is fatigue but no doubt he's playing pretty below what he's capable of.
Berg wasn't an issue, but when teams dedicate a lot of their D to Braden other options need to be in play and too many people are not. There are some in here that have coached and experienced teaching a group of players an offense...a play ...a set and at least in the early stages those players are like robots knowing that ball has to go to point B and then I run to point D and so forth without noticing they are open for a drive or see somebody else open and don't really understand those are generalities to try to create conditions, but if the condition you want is there...the ball does NOT have to go to point B.
The natural counter to pressure is backscreen, back cut and attacking off the dribble. When you don't do that and the other team brings pressure you are not countering it and if you don't counter it...why would it quit? When you just move the body and/or ball horizontally instead of vertically...the D has an advantage.
Matt is not perfect, but he has reasons as do the other coaches for what they do that those outside are unable to understand because they don't know all that went into it. Berg was not an out of the blue substitution and he was no more of a problem than many. I already told you what Durr did for IU against Trevion. Are you unaware?
You, me and others don't have the insight into all the thoughts that go into the game that the coaches have already shared. They may be right and they may be wrong, but if wrong that doesn't mean that something else would have been better. Why are you so hung up on the Berg substitution that you incessantly attempt to take issue with me as though I said he was good when I never once did any more that say what Matt thought what he did in my opinion. Surely, you don't think Matt invented this approach?
In no post did I say he was great for you to counter that he wasn't. I said why he was tried and said that before the game because I shared some similar things with Matt apparently. It was a reasonable decision from someone that has won a lot of games that I happened to share. That doesn't make us saints...just an understanding that others may not share. Let it go. I don't expect everyone to share the same thoughts and would be concerned if that happened. In my mind it was worth a try and in yours it wasn't end of story...
Impressive. And unusual. Designer implants perhaps?
Must make airport metal detectors awkward.
I think that maybe is a start. I may type more later, but moving horizontally with pressure on you and not going vertically gives the D the advantage since there is no reason for them to soften the D. What I think you suggest without saying is expanding the offense..in what you do and how it starts...
I think you answered my question. This team is built to go to point B which is Smith and knew this would be that way as soon as ZE left. It worked early because Smith does have capabilities to score. The problem is when he's aggressively guarded he takes the team out of any kind of play/set/motion because the offense is just watching him dribble around the arc for 15-20 seconds with no type of counter.
This is a team issue including CMP. This isn't a fluke because it's been an issue for many games now and nothing has changed. If we continue to run small lineups why aren't we pushing the ball more and more???
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