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Purdue adds Liam Murphy

What did we say? 2-3 additions? Painter can be slow to change, but when he makes the change, he goes whole hog with gusto.
Leaves Purdue at 12 scholarships if no one leaves, I can honestly see a 4-5 depth piece looking to fill a role as a depth piece/practice player to maybe be added. I imagine there’s a MAC level player somewhere that averaged 8-9 a game that would love to play on a team capable of making a final 4.
 
Anyone have the clip of Purdue in the huddle and CMP draws up the play but Loyer provides input and coach changes the play?

I think it was at home vs IU, maybe two seasons ago?
 


Immediate reaction from watching some videos.

  • Really quick release and great form on his jumper.
  • Loves the left corner, which is where Heide would sit a lot.
  • I’m not sure he could beat me off the dribble.
  • Looks like a quality and willing passer.
  • No idea on if he can defend at this level.
I have a feeling it’s been made clear that he WILL defend if he is interested in playing time😎
 
What did we say? 2-3 additions? Painter can be slow to change, but when he makes the change, he goes whole hog with gusto.
Help me understand— how precisely has CMP been “slow to change”??

In the last ten years, he’s recruited and coached elite level teams that have featured dynamic outside shooters/creators/playmakers— as well as teams that dominated in the paint…

I wish to hell his teams didn’t have a history of going belly-up in March, but aside from this uncomfortable reality, there is zero evidence of an inability to change- whatever that is supposed to mean…

Sorry , but this post is the biggest backhanded compliment ever!
 
Good pickup! Last signee? Hopefully…Cox and Harris stay at Purdue…
Haven’t they both literally posted saying they are coming back??? I do t understand this speculation. Someone educate me on tangible “rumors” vs gut feeling.

Hope he’s better than Colvin and Heide. That’s the real measure.
 
Haven’t they both literally posted saying they are coming back??? I do t understand this speculation. Someone educate me on tangible “rumors” vs gut feeling.

Hope he’s better than Colvin and Heide. That’s the real measure.
This.
Playing for Purdue is now (and should always be) a MERIT-effin’-TOCRACY..

Anyone on the roster who doesn’t understand this— sayonara!!!
 
Haven’t they both literally posted saying they are coming back??? I do t understand this speculation. Someone educate me on tangible “rumors” vs gut feeling.

Hope he’s better than Colvin and Heide. That’s the real measure.
All Frosh from last year have..except Harris. April 23rd needs to get here fast 😂
 
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North Florida losing their best players to the state of Indiana.
Neither one has great computer metrics. Murphy is rated 1439 player last year with +/- of -24, Miles is rated 2153 with a +/- of -131, yet 247 has Miles as a decent player rating of 0.93 and Murphy gets no rating. Some times metrics don't line up with rankings. I prefer to look at results and facts. Anyway both players are bench depth. I kinda see a trend with IU commits, same as last year, their player rankings are really pretty good, but their computer metrics say the opposite!
 
North Florida losing their best players to the state of Indiana.
It's the world we live in now. I have season tickets at UT-Martin, where I work. Happens to us almost every year now, men and women. Players who excel in the OVC usually don't stick around long. I'm sure that's true in the Atlantic Sun as well. The other side of that is we sometimes pick up good players who are crashing out of high major programs or just looking for a fresh start.
 
Lets look at Purdue recruit Cluff versus IU recruit Miles and their computer metrics. Cluff last year was rated 131 player in the nation with a +/- of +149, while Miles was rated 2153 with +/- of -131. On 247 Cluff comes in at #34 while Miles is at #98, even with really piss poor metrics? Remember last year when IU recruits Carlyle and Myles were both top rated guards in the portal even thou their metrics were not great, go look this year where they are rated with basically the same metrics as last two years? A lot of times you need to look at these rankings with a grain of salt, some times they are just someones opinion only. I think I trust Painter more on his talent assessments than these rating services. IU seems to be fine example of winning the ranking wars and then end up with disappointing results. Are they being setup again for another?
 
Lets look at Purdue recruit Cluff versus IU recruit Miles and their computer metrics. Cluff last year was rated 131 player in the nation with a +/- of +149, while Miles was rated 2153 with +/- of -131. On 247 Cluff comes in at #34 while Miles is at #98, even with really piss poor metrics? Remember last year when IU recruits Carlyle and Myles were both top rated guards in the portal even thou their metrics were not great, go look this year where they are rated with basically the same metrics as last two years? A lot of times you need to look at these rankings with a grain of salt, some times they are just someones opinion only. I think I trust Painter more on his talent assessments than these rating services. IU seems to be fine example of winning the ranking wars and then end up with disappointing results. Are they being setup again for another?
+/- is not a very good way to tell how good a player is
 
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It's the world we live in now. I have season tickets at UT-Martin, where I work. Happens to us almost every year now, men and women. Players who excel in the OVC usually don't stick around long. I'm sure that's true in the Atlantic Sun as well. The other side of that is we sometimes pick up good players who are crashing out of high major programs or just looking for a fresh start.
My grandfather worked for UTM in maintenance during the 70’s and 80’s. I often visited Martin and Obion as that is where my grand parents lived. Reelfoot Lake was always a favorite.
 
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+/- is not a very good way to tell how good a player is
I am not looking at just +/- , but if you notice +/- usually follow the players metric with respect to their Offense and Defensive rating, plus look at what the player did against good teams versus bad teams. This is what makes Purdue metrics impressive, because their non-conf vs conf are almost identical because of the toughness of schedule vs teams that play a couple of tough teams in non-conf and then their metrics skyrocket in their weak conf. competition.
 
I am not looking at just +/- , but if you notice +/- usually follow the players metric with respect to their Offense and Defensive rating, plus look at what the player did against good teams versus bad teams. This is what makes Purdue metrics impressive, because their non-conf vs conf are almost identical because of the toughness of schedule vs teams that play a couple of tough teams in non-conf and then their metrics skyrocket in their weak conf. competition.
Guys on losing teams are going to have a bad +/-. Kinda the point of the stat. Players on winning teams will naturally have a better +/-. That's why coaches have to really dig in on scouting from play style and character with these small school guys.
 
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My grandfather worked for UTM in maintenance during the 70’s and 80’s. I often visited Martin and Obion as that is where my grand parents lived. Reelfoot Lake was always a favorite.
That area's been hit hard with severe weather the past few years---tornadoes, flooding. But, there's plenty of natural beauty around Reelfoot Lake.
 
Guys on losing teams are going to have a bad +/-. Kinda the point of the stat. Players on winning teams will naturally have a better +/-. That's why coaches have to really dig in on scouting from play style and character with these small school guys.
A lot of small schools have winning records but still have players with poor +/-, you make it sound like all small schools have losing records. I understand coaches are looking for diamonds in the rough, but small schools with losing records are going to have less talent. I also known there are a lot of kids who can play basketball but get lost in the system as it setup today. +/- is not the total picture, but some these players have really bad metrics that do make a statement of fact of their play. I also know coaches have a lot more access to info than us the average fans, but still it is fun to look at the metrics. I also see a lot of kids that can shoot, but can they play the game of basketball, like defend, rebound, assists, turnovers, etc. and the +/- is a quick gauge to look at to see if a kid can play all assets of the game. Evan Myia has a great site for looking at a players metrics, Torvik metrics are good to look at, but his results are ??
 
I think the guy from north florida starts at small forward he is 6 feet 7
I think most of his minutes will come off the bench backing up TKR at the 4 and Painter will run a 3 guard line-up. There an embarrassment of riches at guard with Smith, Loyer, Mayer, Cox, Harris, Benter, and West, really leaving no minutes for Murphy, IMO, at the 3.
 
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