POS President Chump blames DEI for plane crash

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So, you agree that the enslavement of black Africans was a function of an economic engine, not racism? The supply of African slaves provided by their fellow black Africans filled a need in the supply chain which was labor.

Dude. No. I told you US slavery was the result of white supremacy sparked by pseudo-science. US slavery was raced based slavery called chattel slavery. The black Africans selling the other Africans was just part of the 3 headed snake of the slave trade. We've been through too many times. It it was pure economics, when slavery was over in 1865, blacks would have been on their merry way free to live and thrive. By the late 1870s that came to an end as the white supremacists enacted Jim Crow. Plus all of the racial hatred til to this day. Hence the topic of this thread. Getting rid of and blaming DEI.

You are the last person to be talking about this as you have absolutely no concept of history. You need to stay in your lane. Next thing you going to tell us that the slaves didn't have it as bad. I've had that argument here already.

 

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Why? Does every living creature have to procreate for evolution to work?

Not every living creature, but over thousands of years I wonder how a trait that does not contribute to continuation of the species has survived. I don't understand it. Do you? Does anybody?

 

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Not every living creature, but over thousands of years I wonder how a trait that does not contribute to continuation of the species has survived. I don't understand it. Do you? Does anybody?

I'm certainly going to get into a conversation with you about genetics, something neither of us know much about.

I will believe the scientists. You can believe TJ.

 

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I'm certainly going to get into a conversation with you about genetics, something neither of us know much about.

I will believe the scientists. You can believe TJ.

Which scientists will you believe?

 

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Dude. No. I told you US slavery was the result of white supremacy sparked by pseudo-science.

Slavery within Africa existed long before the US existed. What was African slavery the result of?

 

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Which scientists will you believe?

Lol. Not simply the ones I agree with.

 

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Lol. Not simply the ones I agree with.

Ducking the question.

 

[tjreese]

Every time y'all post y'all prove your racist ways. Then have the nerve to try an educate a black man about slavery in the US is unreal. We've been through this several times.

I focus on slavery in the US perhaps is because I'm a black person living in the US with ancestors that were actually slaves in the US and ancestors that went through Jim Crow. And I never said that US slavery was worse. All forms of enslaving other humans is wrong. Like I said the other instances of slavery in ancient times were not race based because there were no concept of human races during those times. During those times, slavery was based on the loser of a particular war like the ancient Romans did. So by the time that the transatlantic slave trade was active, European white supremacy was in full swing and due to pseudo-science the black Africans were the target.

Should I take this to mean that you believe had it been Asians or any other group, their slavery back then would be different than the black slavery back then?

 

[tjreese]

I'm certainly going to get into a conversation with you about genetics, something neither of us know much about.

I will believe the scientists. You can believe TJ.

Those were not my comments, but someone whose specific work with Bio statistics inside DNA said. Still, you are correct that neither of us know much about DNA. I just happen to be able to ask a small group inside that area a direct question that nobody is able to publish out of context. Still, I understood you believed in the Russian collusion, the violent insurrection, and the great work Biden did. THAT is not a very good track record Bob on your beliefs. Ever consider getting your intel from more reliable sources?

 

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Slavery within Africa existed long before the US existed. What was African slavery the result of?

In Northern Africa, the Arabs/Muslims enslaved Europeans. As far as the Sub-Saharan Africa after tribal conquests, they would enslave the captives.

 

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Should I take this to mean that you believe had it been Asians or any other group, their slavery back then would be different than the black slavery back then?

Since it never happened I cannot answer for certain. I would guestimate it would be similar. Racist FDR sure enough put Japanese AMERICANS into internment camps after the bombing of Pearl Harbor. The number of German Americans interned during WW2 was relatively small compared to the Japanese Americans.

 

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Ducking the question.

It's a vague question. You going to give me a list of scientists to choose from? Maybe check to see their political affiliation.

This is just another one of your setups for some conclusion you've already drawn. So damn transparent

 

[bonefish1]

Dude. No. I told you US slavery was the result of white supremacy sparked by pseudo-science. US slavery was raced based slavery called chattel slavery. The black Africans selling the other Africans was just part of the 3 headed snake of the slave trade. We've been through too many times. It it was pure economics, when slavery was over in 1865, blacks would have been on their merry way free to live and thrive. By the late 1870s that came to an end as the white supremacists enacted Jim Crow. Plus all of the racial hatred til to this day. Hence the topic of this thread. Getting rid of and blaming DEI.

You are the last person to be talking about this as you have absolutely no concept of history. You need to stay in your lane. Next thing you going to tell us that the slaves didn't have it as bad. I've had that argument here already.

And i told you, slavery was more of an economic issue than a race issue. Black Africans just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time when cheap labor was needed. The conquering African tribes who sold their fellow black Africans into slavery didn't do it because they were black. They did it because it was a source of money.
And as far as blacks suddenly being free to go their marry way in 1865, be realistic. You really think slave owners running huge plantations were just going to give up their livelihood without a fight?

Your being black has to do as about knowing slavery as me being white has to do with owning slaves. You didn't know any slaves. No one you knew or anyone they knew were slaves.

 

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Slavery within Africa existed long before the US existed. What was African slavery the result of?

Also, I'm not concerned with slavery prior to US existence. I said earlier, I live here in America with ancestors that were enslaved and went through the Jim Crow era. We have the so-called founding fathers like Washington, Jefferson and others that owned hundreds of human beings each relatively recent history. I don't put them on a high pedestal like y'all do. Slave owners in the state of Maryland even got reparations for losing their "property" after the Civil War.

 

[bonefish1]

Also, I'm not concerned with slavery prior to US existence. I said earlier, I live here in America with ancestors that were enslaved and went through the Jim Crow era. We have the so-called founding fathers like Washington, Jefferson and others that owned hundreds of human beings each relatively recent history. I don't put them on a high pedestal like y'all do. Slave owners in the state of Maryland even got reparations for losing their "property" after the Civil War.

And Kamala Harris' family in Jamaica where very prominent slave owners there. Why does that not concern you?

 

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And i told you, slavery was more of an economic issue than a race issue. Black Africans just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time when cheap labor was needed. The conquering African tribes who sold their fellow black Africans into slavery didn't do it because they were black. They did it because it was a source of money.
And as far as blacks suddenly being free to go their marry way in 1865, be realistic. You really think slave owners running huge plantations were just going to give up their livelihood without a fight?

Your being black has to do as about knowing slavery as me being white has to do with owning slaves. You didn't know any slaves. No one you knew or anyone they knew were slaves.

Like I said earlier, stay in your lane. You keep harping on the Africans that sold the other African captives. You have very little to say about the Americans that sailed to Africa, bought and picked them up in order to be sold in the US like grain. The Africans sold their war captives to the Europeans for money. You are correct about that. However, the American bought the slaves for chattel slavery, which is race based for labor.

 

[tjreese]

Since it never happened I cannot answer for certain. I would guestimate it would be similar. Racist FDR sure enough put Japanese AMERICANS into internment camps after the bombing of Pearl Harbor. The number of German Americans interned during WW2 was relatively small compared to the Japanese Americans.

and I believe there would be no difference

 

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And Kamala Harris' family in Jamaica where very prominent slave owners there. Why does that not concern you?

Again, you keep bringing that up. For one thing that was in Jamaica where I do not live. Harris' ancestors in Jamaica were white and Irish. That's what was done in Jamaica in the 1700s and 1800s. I have no concern about Harris' ancestors owning slaves in Jamaica no more than anyone else here in the US that had ancestors owning slaves. Someone today that had ancestors that owned slaves is no big deal. I may have some if I do some research. A large portion of black Americans have white ancestry that may owned slaves. Or, the much smaller percentage that have black ancestors that owned slaves. Take a history class at a local community college. It'll do you some good.

 

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and I believe there would be no difference

Perhaps it won't. Who knows. If enslaving Asians was based on chattel slavery, then no question it would be very similar.

 

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Also, I'm not concerned with slavery prior to US existence. I said earlier, I live here in America with ancestors that were enslaved and went through the Jim Crow era. We have the so-called founding fathers like Washington, Jefferson and others that owned hundreds of human beings each relatively recent history. I don't put them on a high pedestal like y'all do. Slave owners in the state of Maryland even got reparations for losing their "property" after the Civil War.

You are not concerned that your ancestors may have been slaveowners and/or slaves in Africa?

I wanted you to see that economics really was a major factor in slavery as opposed to just "white supremacy", as bone said.

US slavery was heading toward extinction until the cotton gin made it much more profitable to own slaves. As a student of history, you know that, right?