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As the game of basketball continues to evolve, Walker epitomizes exactly what the game is becoming. A smooth three-level scorer with a smooth touch and the ability to run the floor like a gazelle at his size is pretty spooky for opposing teams.

According to 'Stock Risers' he has the ability.
 
It is hard for us to know how Jacobsen is progressing. If no issue and soph year increases for Burgess take place ...then a 5 isn't a concern, but not knowing that I question if a good 5 for a year wouldn't be useful and help the team.
People have labeled him an early NBA departure which certainly is always possible and one hopes but basing that on one preseason and three minutes in a game is something.
 
It will be interesting to see how Portal plays out next year.

A couple thoughts.....

TKR and Smith will have high market value. Shooters like Fletch have a premium too. I think Purdue takes care of all 3, but we can't be naive in this day and age that they won't consider something else.

With that being said...those 3 won't be cheap, how much NIL does Purdue have?

Painter doesn't operate this way, but I think if something is left you go for the biggest fish you can get and figure lineups out later. This team doesn't need another role player to be NC contender, they need one more stud. Even if it's a PG and you play them together, get an elite guy and let Painter figure out how the lineup will work.

Obviously character and fit are non negotiable, but this team needs another difference maker regardless of position to take the next step, and can't gambe on role guy making the jump IMO.
If Matt goes after a player in the portal he will definitely be looking for a role player that performs the role he thinks the team needs. That role may be expanded in comparison to others of more of a specialty in excellence and solid in other areas...but he will be looking for certain things and will try to build a team.
 
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We may have an additional player but doubtful he will come from the portal.
You thinking Sisley? I’m guessing 2-3 leave after the season, I doubt Berg and Waddell stick around, I can see one of Colvin or Heide leaving as well. Before anyone gets mad that’s just a guess, maybe all stay, the nature of college hoops though tells me a couple cut out.
 
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People have labeled him an early NBA departure which certainly is always possible and one hopes but basing that on one preseason and three minutes in a game is something.
I think we’re OK at the 5 between TKR, DJ and burgess. I think CMP really counted on getting either Sisley , Walker or Singleton at the 4. Striking out on all 3 is tough.
 
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You thinking Sisley? I’m guessing 2-3 leave after the season, I doubt Berg and Waddell stick around, I can see one of Colvin or Heide leaving as well. Before anyone gets mad that’s just a guess, maybe all stay, the nature of college hoops though tells me a couple cut out.
No dad says he is staying. Waddel isn't going anywhere for personal reasons.
 
On a side note have seen some folks starting rumors that Heide and Colvin might be looking to transfer.

I don’t see it happening with Colvin being a legacy but could see Cam moving on.

Hate seeing people leave when times are tough but I get it in the new world.
Trilly hasn’t really been that great of a predictor for anything Purdue. Said DJ was going to wisky and was wrong. He said something about potentially Heide back in December. All fluff.
 
My point was jones was a great defensive players at SIU as a freshman!
No, you said Purdue fans didn’t know that he was a great defensive player
My point was against grabbing someone from the portal just to fill a need when signing a high school player could be just as good or maybe even better.
Painter did that this year.
My point is that usually portal players are a 1 year fix. They are nothing more than a one and done player who either wants big money or couldn’t beat out the players to start at his last school.
Please see such examples as Wisconsin and Auburn that prove this 100% wrong.
Ask yourself, why do Purdue players enter the portal? Purdue football players enter because they want money and a chance to play for a winner. Purdue basketball players enter the portal because they couldn’t beat out the competition.
Hunter and IT couldn’t beat out the best PG in Purdues history/a top 5 PG in college bball in the making. It makes sense why they transferred. Hunter also had an extra year, just like Morton. Newman too but he just couldn’t get his shot going. Same as wheeler.
If Myles were to enter the portal, what would be his reasoning? Basically he got tired of coming off the bench and he couldn’t beat out Loyer.
He started 8 games this year alongside Loyer. He’s not leaving.
Think about it. Would we or Painter want to add a player who only entered the portal because he wasn’t good enough to start for his last team?
I trust painter to take the best player for the team, whether he started or came off bench. Still don’t get your obsession with thinking players want to “start” and that’s it.
And does Purdue really have the NIL money to use and attract a real portal star like Dickinson and the guy from UW that Kansas paid out?
Again. I trust painter and staff to make good decisions. Dickinson and Storr were not Purdue guys. And no one knows how much NIL any school has. Painter has said Purdue can pay.
With all that said, some incoming freshman demand as much money as portal players do!
Yeah but if you’ve been paying attention, that’s why Purdue doesn’t land 5 stars.
I’m not against adding portal players. I just don’t believe they are as great as some of you believe them to be. Look at Gillis. He was supposed to be one of the better portal players available last year. Just ask a Duke fan their impression of adding Gillis or adding another high school recruit like Flagg. By adding Gillis, Duke probably informed a 4/5 recruit they had no room for him. I doubt that made Duke fans happy if they turned away a top 50 high school player to add Gillis.
Gillis was the 91st ranked transfer last year. So, seems like you’re wrong in your assessment. Duke fans on X and Reddit love Gillis.
And look at Morton and Newman and Hunter and IT. My bet is their schools are now wishing they hadn’t added that portal transfer.
Colorado state, Butler, WKU, FGCU and Oklahoma State aren’t exactly powerhouses and didn’t really lose anything by adding them. Probably improved to be honest.
So back to Jones! He was great last year. He was a portal addition. Painter does look at the portal for players. He just didn’t last year because he thought he had a commitment from Catchings and Harris.
And 4 other freshman
I still can’t believe the timing of Catchings decision to decommit . There had to be something there that Painter will never make public. If Catchings had not signed, I believe Painter would have looked to the portal.
We were oversigned with catchings. How did you not see those posts?
Catchings screwed us over big time! I’m not sure why and I’m not sure what he was thinking. But yes. Catchings intentionally screwed us over.
He did us a favor actually.
He could have at least stayed a year before transferring. Was BYU even one of the schools he was considering when first being recruited? And now that BYU has that #1 prospect coming in, karmas has taken place.
No. But they offered decent money and were one of few teams that had room since he waited so long. KC will transfer out somewhere else or get drafted second round.
Given a choice of adding a portal player or a top 20 one and done high school player, which would you rather have? There are risks both ways.
Wow, never thought of that!
I look at these we need a portal player posts much like I look at the fire painter posts. The portal player posts never identify the player or the position. They just say we need a portal player. What you need to do is identify our team’s deficiency and identify a player that would fix or improve that deficiency.
I believe you need to re-read these posts. They have clearly stated positions, deficiencies and even throwing out names of players that we’d all like to see.
At the moment I see three deficiencies. Our guards are playing terrible perimeter defense. And our center position is not guarding the basket or getting rebounds. and I believe we need a taller forward to play the 3 rather than a guard. Jacobsen should fix one of those deficiencies. Can West or Benter or Harris fix the other deficiency?
We shall see.
We have West coming next year. I believe we have room to add 1-3 more players. I expect 1-2 players will leave.
With scholarships going from 13->15 we could add 2 more with everyone back, Furst graduating and west coming aboard. Painter could also choose to make some walks ona into scholarship players. Sounds like Waddell is leaning on staying. Berg may leave tho
I believe Painter is waiting until the end of the year to worry about who to add via recruiting high school players or the portal.
Unless someone de-commits, there won’t be any high school players to recruit
I haven’t really looked lately to see who is left uncommitted/signed from high school. I also haven’t seen any high school recruits with Purdue in their top 5 that haven’t already committed or that Purdue was pursuing.
There aren’t any. We are on to 2026 recruits.
If Sisley decommited and became available, would you rather have Sisley or a portal transfer?
Portal. Need to go all-in next year. Sisley is a 4 year player and doesn’t provide the help we need right away for next year.
Personally I’d rather have Sisley.
Why?
 
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Yeah I figured as much and then you have Purdue accounts on Twitter talking like it is fact which is annoying.
Oh yeah I saw that. Dude doesn’t know anything. Not sure you saw my post beef, but I looked at similar sophomores with similar games played (20+), mins (less than 20) and shots (less than 5 a game).

That’s 211 sophs. Of those only 33 have attempted more than 30 3s. And 20 of those are 30%+. Heide and Colvin are 18th and 20th, but the difference between them and the tenth guy is 2 more makes for cam and 5 for Myles. A lot of the guys ahead of them are smaller schools/schools not competing much.

So I think they’re a little behind, but not as much as ppl think. They’ve had some bad luck (Myles with quite a few in and outs), as well as having their roles change multiple times throughout the year —beginning of year, DJ gets hurt, start a few games, come off bench, don’t always play same amount of mins. I’m thinking they stay and are tons better next year.

They are 6/13 from 3 last 3 games, so if they can shoot around 35-40% combined from 3 for us from here on out, it’ll make us that much better.

Just my overly optimistic opinion, of course.
 
Oh yeah I saw that. Dude doesn’t know anything. Not sure you saw my post beef, but I looked at similar sophomores with similar games played (20+), mins (less than 20) and shots (less than 5 a game).

That’s 211 sophs. Of those only 33 have attempted more than 30 3s. And 20 of those are 30%+. Heide and Colvin are 18th and 20th, but the difference between them and the tenth guy is 2 more makes for cam and 5 for Myles. A lot of the guys ahead of them are smaller schools/schools not competing much.

So I think they’re a little behind, but not as much as ppl think. They’ve had some bad luck (Myles with quite a few in and outs), as well as having their roles change multiple times throughout the year —beginning of year, DJ gets hurt, start a few games, come off bench, don’t always play same amount of mins. I’m thinking they stay and are tons better next year.

They are 6/13 from 3 last 3 games, so if they can shoot around 35-40% combined from 3 for us from here on out, it’ll make us that much better.

Just my overly optimistic opinion, of course.

I'm either crazy or a diehard (both?), but something tells me Heide and Colvin are going to play their best the next few weeks. Pressure might be off a bit since winning B1G is longshot and now can take out some frustration and finish year strong.

Hope Colvin is cleared Sunday. He obviously had concussion and hope he was ok. Side rant , but that moving screen was way worse than those nickel and dimers they've been hitting TKR with lately. We will need him to check their wings and be physical to keep them out of the paint.
 
I'm either crazy or a diehard (both?), but something tells me Heide and Colvin are going to play their best the next few weeks. Pressure might be off a bit since winning B1G is longshot and now can take out some frustration and finish year strong.

Hope Colvin is cleared Sunday. He obviously had concussion and hope he was ok. Side rant , but that moving screen was way worse than those nickel and dimers they've been hitting TKR with lately. We will need him to check their wings and be physical to keep them out of the paint.
I can’t find a clip of that screen on Colvin. Does anyone have it??!

Edit: nvm found it. I missed this during the game…but wow. How they called Heide for those last 3 fouls and that didn’t get called??? Wooooow
 
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I can’t find a clip of that screen on Colvin. Does anyone have it??!

Edit: nvm found it. I missed this during the game…but wow. How they called Heide for those last 3 fouls and that didn’t get called??? Wooooow
Yeah, Zapata lowered his shoulder. When TKR gets hit with a foul he is rushing to get into his role. It's life on the road, but still frustrating.
 
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I can’t find a clip of that screen on Colvin. Does anyone have it??!

Edit: nvm found it. I missed this during the game…but wow. How they called Heide for those last 3 fouls and that didn’t get called??? Wooooow

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No, you said Purdue fans didn’t know that he was a great defensive player

Painter did that this year.

Please see such examples as Wisconsin and Auburn that prove this 100% wrong.

Hunter and IT couldn’t beat out the best PG in Purdues history/a top 5 PG in college bball in the making. It makes sense why they transferred. Hunter also had an extra year, just like Morton. Newman too but he just couldn’t get his shot going. Same as wheeler.

He started 8 games this year alongside Loyer. He’s not leaving.

I trust painter to take the best player for the team, whether he started or came off bench. Still don’t get your obsession with thinking players want to “start” and that’s it.

Again. I trust painter and staff to make good decisions. Dickinson and Storr were not Purdue guys. And no one knows how much NIL any school has. Painter has said Purdue can pay.

Yeah but if you’ve been paying attention, that’s why Purdue doesn’t land 5 stars.

Gillis was the 91st ranked transfer last year. So, seems like you’re wrong in your assessment. Duke fans on X and Reddit love Gillis.

Colorado state, Butler, WKU, FGCU and Oklahoma State aren’t exactly powerhouses and didn’t really lose anything by adding them. Probably improved to be honest.

And 4 other freshman

We were oversigned with catchings. How did you not see those posts?

He did us a favor actually.

No. But they offered decent money and were one of few teams that had room since he waited so long. KC will transfer out somewhere else or get drafted second round.

Wow, never thought of that!

I believe you need to re-read these posts. They have clearly stated positions, deficiencies and even throwing out names of players that we’d all like to see.

We shall see.

With scholarships going from 13->15 we could add 2 more with everyone back, Furst graduating and west coming aboard. Painter could also choose to make some walks ona into scholarship players. Sounds like Waddell is leaning on staying. Berg may leave tho

Unless someone de-commits, there won’t be any high school players to recruit

There aren’t any. We are on to 2026 recruits.

Portal. Need to go all-in next year. Sisley is a 4 year player and doesn’t provide the help we need right away for next year.

Why?
Ok, first, I read the posts and other articles. we were over our scholarship limit and we were still recruiting harris. and painter said several times, he had a way to add harris, and that was before catchings left. So we will never know what that way was, because painter will never reveal it. maybe as was speculated, a player was going to give up his scholarship and be reimbursed via the NIL or Painter knew scholarships were going to be increased. But the fact remains, Painter was recruiting Harris even knowing we were at our max. Rather than harris, Painter could have recruited a portal player. If he thought he could add Harris with Catchings here, then he could have signed a portal player instead of Harris.



Why sisley ? for two reasons. I'd love to see a player like Sisley play the 3. I'd really love to dump the 3 guard offense and start playing an actual forward at the 3 position. the other reason is to quote you. you said you trust in Painter several times in your post and previous posts. Should I quote you ? My thought on Sisley is that Painter spent a lot of time recruiting him. Painter really wanted him to come to Purdue. so if you trust painter and his decisions, then Sisley is the guy Painter really wanted. and if he's the guy Painter really wanted, then I also want him. I don't want players Painter doesn't want. and looking at the recruiting board, all of the other 2025 high school players are already taken. But with Woodson leaving IU, all IU players and commits can leave and find a new team. and Sisley is one of those players. THat's why I like sisley

as for Gillis, i believe you should look at the rankings of the players of his position rather than his total ranking. there were a lot of teams that would have liked to add gillis.

As for players leaving Purdue. I don't want anybody to leave. but the reality is they do leave. and Hunter and IT both left before braden even played a game. they must have either received the talk or knew the writing was on the wall.

many players are smart enough to see the writing on the wall. I don't want Myles or heidi to leave. but if they still have pro aspirations, they can see the writing on the wall and will seek to join other teams to showcase their talents. with West and ertel coming, and loyer and smith staying, there will not be very many minutes for other guards.

as for legacies, didn't Mount and parkinson's son come to Purdue only to leave ?

I'm sorry, but Loyalty doesn't exist in college basketball any more. Even Edey, Edwards and ivey all left for $$$$$ rather than staying at Purdue. that's a fact, not speculation.
 
Ok, first, I read the posts and other articles. we were over our scholarship limit and we were still recruiting harris. and painter said several times, he had a way to add harris, and that was before catchings left. So we will never know what that way was, because painter will never reveal it. maybe as was speculated, a player was going to give up his scholarship and be reimbursed via the NIL or Painter knew scholarships were going to be increased. But the fact remains, Painter was recruiting Harris even knowing we were at our max. Rather than harris, Painter could have recruited a portal player. If he thought he could add Harris with Catchings here, then he could have signed a portal player instead of Harris.
Harris committed in November. Giving Painter plenty of time to figure out the limit.
Why sisley ? for two reasons. I'd love to see a player like Sisley play the 3. I'd really love to dump the 3 guard offense and start playing an actual forward at the 3 position. the other reason is to quote you. you said you trust in Painter several times in your post and previous posts. Should I quote you ? My thought on Sisley is that Painter spent a lot of time recruiting him. Painter really wanted him to come to Purdue. so if you trust painter and his decisions, then Sisley is the guy Painter really wanted. and if he's the guy Painter really wanted, then I also want him. I don't want players Painter doesn't want. and looking at the recruiting board, all of the other 2025 high school players are already taken. But with Woodson leaving IU, all IU players and commits can leave and find a new team. and Sisley is one of those players. THat's why I like sisley
Painter has spent plenty of time recruiting guys who didn’t choose Purdue. So you’d take Sisley over and portal guy next year?
as for Gillis, i believe you should look at the rankings of the players of his position rather than his total ranking. there were a lot of teams that would have liked to add gillis.
He was 18th for SF. Still don’t get your argument here.
As for players leaving Purdue. I don't want anybody to leave. but the reality is they do leave. and Hunter and IT both left before braden even played a game. they must have either received the talk or knew the writing was on the wall.
Yes and yes. I think we all agree they saw smith was way better. They didn’t want to have their minutes reduced (even tho neither panned out in college, but EHJ would have been a great backup to smith). So not sure what the argument is here.
many players are smart enough to see the writing on the wall. I don't want Myles or heidi to leave. but if they still have pro aspirations, they can see the writing on the wall and will seek to join other teams to showcase their talents. with West and ertel coming, and loyer and smith staying, there will not be very many minutes for other guards.
If west can beat out Myles, then he deserves to play but history has shown freshman (besides smith and Loyer) take some time to get into the system, as we saw with Colvin.
as for legacies, didn't Mount and parkinson's son come to Purdue only to leave ?
Were either of them close to how good Cam
And Colvin are? Don’t think so.
I'm sorry, but Loyalty doesn't exist in college basketball any more. Even Edey, Edwards and ivey all left for $$$$$ rather than staying at Purdue. that's a fact, not speculation.
Edey left after he GRADUATED college and was a projected top 10 lotto pick. Do you not remember he came back after winning NPOTY his junior year? Is that not loyalty?

Edwards left after having one of the greatest NCAAT runs in the history of the tournament. His stock would have never been higher.

Ivey left after his sophomore year and was a top 5 projected lotto pick. He didn’t have much more to prove and his draft stock wouldn’t have been that much higher.

No one has questioned their loyalty. Not sure why you used these guys as your examples.
 
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I mentioned Mount and Parkinson in reference to Wadell being a called legacy and wouldn’t be leaving. Legacy players leave all the time. I could bring up JJJ. He was also a legacy player and predicted to be a lock to sign with Purdue. He might have been a legacy, but he played for MSU. The fact a player is a legacy doesn’t mean they have. Any loyalty to Purdue.

You don’t question Edey, Ivey or Edwards loyalty. But the fact remains, all three could have returned to Purdue. But decided to leave. Why? $$$$. Edey could have stayed and pursued his masters degree. But playing in the pros was more important. It was the same with Swanigan and Big Dog. They could have returned.

I wanted Hunter and Eastern and Haarms to return, but they all left to do what was in their best interests.

I provided examples of Purdue players. Players on other teams do the exact same thing. Just imagine if you are an SIU fan and you had dreams of winning a conference championship and playing in the NCAA tournament and your best two players decide to do what’s in their best interest and depart for Purdue and Illinois. SIU is not like Purdue. They very rarely get an NCAA tournament invite. They had their hopes dashed by their two star players who had zero loyalty to the team or college. It sucks to be an SIU fan. Look across the NCAA. There is zero loyalty.

Go back to Purdue. If Smith was offered to be a first round draft pick, What do you believe he would choose? Loyalty to Purdue? Or the NBA money? I believe the $$$$ would win.

You may say he made the logical and smart decision to turn pro. But the fact remains, he chose $$$ over loyalty.

Look at Duke’s Flapp. Is he going to choose. Loyalty to Duke over taking the $$$?

Look at Pack or Peck. He took the money over playing on a potential championship team. Miami wasn’t going to win a championship. Purdue might have. He made his decision based on money.

Look at Dickinson. I was surprised he left Michigan. I thought he would stay to try to bring a championship to Michigan. But he chose money over loyalty.

The list goes on and on.

Ask yourself, if Purdue was not a top 20 team, what would be the degree of player loyalty? I believe you saw that loyalty with Purdue’s football team and the woman’s volleyball team. The lack of loyalty exhibited by the woman’s volleyball team shocked me. My son lost his NCAA champion high jumper to Kentucky. I’m not sure if he was sad or happy when her performance at Kentucky was not close to her previous standards.

I don’t blame people for leaving. It’s the same in the business world. People get better offers and they leave. There are always a few exceptions, but they are no longer the majority, especially with people under 30.

I guess my standards and beliefs are wrong. The most important thing in life is $$$. We even now have Christian ministers who say if your beliefs are strong, you will be rewarded with money and fame. That minister is very popular at the moment.

I liked Sisley because Painter liked him. I also liked him because I feel he would fill a void at Purdue. I also liked him because I felt he was a good player. I don’t want to see Purdue sign another guard. I also don’t want to see Purdue sign another portal player just to keep one fan happy that we signed a portal player. I actually believe Sisley would be better than any portal player. That Painter would want to sign or that would be interested in Purdue.

That’s something that’s not talked about much. There are many players in high school and the portal that Painter has zero interest in regardless of their talent. The same goes for the players. There are many players who have zero interest in playing for Purdue or Painter . Just because we as fans think a player would be a good fit doesn’t mean the player wants to come to Purdue. Painter didn’t even bother recruiting that #1 player who’s going to BYU. As a fan, I’d love to see him change his mind and come to Purdue and to tell those Nil people where to go with their money. I doubt that player will have any loyalty to BYU.

Going back to Dickinson. Painter is on record as saying he would find a way to add Harris to our team last year even when we were maxed out. Would he have found a way to add Dickinson? He would have been the perfect fit. Painter once recruited him. As a fan would I have rather added Dickinson over Harris or Cox or Benter?

Or would I say, Dickinson already burned that bridge and is a very disloyal person who only cares about money? So don’t bother!

Would fans embrace Dickinson or the guy at Creighton if they decided to play for Purdue? Or Catchings or Mullins or Sisley? I believe if they became a star all would be forgiven and forgotten. Are fans loyal to their school? Or are fans loyal to winning ? If Purdue’s basketball team matched the success of their football team, would Purdue have the same amount of basketball fans?

Loyalty is a tough question loyalty vs $$$. Who wins? Loyalty vs winning. Who wins?
 
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