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Definitely contrasting styles between PJ and Spike. PJ much better shooter and Spike can get to hoop better making things happen. Both confident in their abilities. PJ rough night shooting but made a couple really smart defensive plays which was nice to see. Thought Spike played as well as had all year and mostly in terms of being comfortable running the offense.

I think CMP now would have no problem going with either guy in the tourney finding right flow of team . Spike 16 minutes yesterday and honestly I would love to see what he can do one of these games the next couple of weeks playing 20+ minutes.
 
wondering if Spike is pain free now from his past hip problems

Seemed a little quicker and looser last night. I felt more comfortable with him when he had the ball

Someone mentioned in the Game thread about this.....also like that he can still make some plays. It's all running together for me now, but didn't he poach and swipe an outlet pass after a FT miss in the second half? PJT made a nice steal right at the start of the second half on the in-bounds play as well. Good to start seeing some of these defensive sparks.
 
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Someone mentioned in the Game thread about this.....also like that he can still make some plays. It's all running together for me now, but didn't he poach and swipe an outlet pass after a FT miss in the second half? PJT made a nice steal right at the start of the second half on the in-bounds play as well. Good to start seeing some of these defensive sparks.

Yes, even if he's not quite there offensively, he's doing a lot of good things. He makes some nice passes as well.
 
At this point Spike hasn't done much offensively and his shot has been off. If we get one or two big 3's from him in the ncaa tourney I will be satisfied for the entire year.
 
At this point Spike hasn't done much offensively and his shot has been off. If we get one or two big 3's from him in the ncaa tourney I will be satisfied for the entire year.
I believe it is more confidence that anything. If he can cut loose for three or four threes...he could be on his way to being a perimeter threat
 
We've survived to this point with him struggling. I'd love to win a conference title and win the BTT but that's just icing on the cake compared to a deep tourney run. Considering he is the only player on the team who has actually won a tourney game he may play a bigger role in limited minutes when we need him most.
 
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I don't get the Spike love.

Sure he, "runs" the offense well and doesn't turn the ball over, but is that really worth 20 minutes per game? Come on.

I'd rather have the guard minutes split between PJ, Carsen, Dakota and Cline. Spike is very, very average.
 
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I don't get the Spike love.

Sure he, "runs" the offense well and doesn't turn the ball over, but is that really worth 20 minutes per game? Come on.

I'd rather have the guard minutes split between PJ, Carsen, Dakota and Cline. Spike is very, very average.

I agree and am just hoping he redeems himself come tourney time with a big shot or two. If he hasn't found his shot by then though I'm not really in favor of seeing him in any game unless it is a must and we are suffering from injuries/foul trouble.
 
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PJ has shot well all year up until last 2 games it seems. He is another 3pt threat that must be respected. Spike has not shown he can shoot yet. He doesn't get to the rim significantly better than PJ. Spike is a good relief point guard but I still give the edge to PJ.
 
I don't get the Spike love.

Sure he, "runs" the offense well and doesn't turn the ball over, but is that really worth 20 minutes per game? Come on.

I'd rather have the guard minutes split between PJ, Carsen, Dakota and Cline. Spike is very, very average.
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I'm certainly not capable of speaking for others, but don't think it is a love affair. I don't want Matt to place in jeopardy a win for extensive playing time for Spike. That said, Dakota is chasing the best offensive player on the other team generally and that takes a lot of energy. He needs a rest and running the point, even in motion requires some energy. Many want Carsen as a scorer and to not give him the team reins for any extended time, but to simplify his role so that he may grow at Purdue with his solid base as a 2 guard from high school…he was NOT a 1 in high school. Those are the only two to rest PJ since I don’t think people want Ryan bringing the ball up the court with a quick 1 defending the ball. To date, Spike may not enhance things over PJ, but what is the magnitude of the perceived loss in getting PJ rest as well as not confusing the roles of the others? Generally speaking, I have no worries with Spike other than the “potential” on ball defense decline and any effects as a result. By the same token, I think Spike does a good job off the ball. Spike may have the best anticipation of the next play …many times a pass… as any on the team. Spike is not as athletic as PJ and to date has not shot as well as PJ, but he has taken sooooooooo few of shots it is hard to get in the groove. It is my belief that PJ needs some rest and that Spike “could” be a person that keeps the offensive consistency of PJ….IF Spike gets some of his shot back. I also think that an extra ball handler that can hit FT’s “could” be huge someday.

I have no love affair, but do see a need to get Spike playing time…while not jeopardizing a game with the potential long term benefits if he finds his shot soon. Until his shot appears, I hope for sufficient on ball defense and heady play and generally I think that has been provided.
 
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I'm certainly not capable of speaking for others, but don't think it is a love affair. I don't want Matt to place in jeopardy a win for extensive playing time for Spike. That said, Dakota is chasing the best offensive player on the other team generally and that takes a lot of energy. He needs a rest and running the point, even in motion requires some energy. Many want Carsen as a scorer and to not give him the team reins for any extended time, but to simplify his role so that he may grow at Purdue with his solid base as a 2 guard from high school…he was NOT a 1 in high school. Those are the only two to rest PJ since I don’t think people want Ryan bringing the ball up the court with a quick 1 defending the ball. To date, Spike may not enhance things over PJ, but what is the magnitude of the perceived loss in getting PJ rest as well as not confusing the roles of the others? Generally speaking, I have no worries with Spike other than the “potential” on ball defense decline and any effects as a result. By the same token, I think Spike does a good job off the ball. Spike may have the best anticipation of the next play …many times a pass… as any on the team. Spike is not as athletic as PJ and to date has not shot as well as PJ, but he has taken sooooooooo few of shots it is hard to get in the groove. It is my belief that PJ needs some rest and that Spike “could” be a person that keeps the offensive consistency of PJ….IF Spike gets some of his shot back. I also think that an extra ball handler that can hit FT’s “could” be huge someday.

I have no love affair, but do see a need to get Spike playing time…while not jeopardizing a game with the potential long term benefits if he finds his shot soon. Until his shot appears, I hope for sufficient on ball defense and heady play and generally I think that has been provided.


Great post. Said this before big 10 season started that Spike is somebody that you might wanting the ball in his hands at end of the game and guy is money at the free throw line. PJ fan my initial post also wasn't love affair for Spike but don't underestimate him.
Why not play him 20+ minutes a game or two? CMP is not going to allow AKST to happen again and I don't think he would hesitate going to Spike more. We will see.
Also totally agree needs reps shooting and if can get some next two weeks great. Tourney he won't be hesitant ala Johnny Hill last year daring to shoot.
 
I don't get the Spike love.

Sure he, "runs" the offense well and doesn't turn the ball over, but is that really worth 20 minutes per game? Come on.

I'd rather have the guard minutes split between PJ, Carsen, Dakota and Cline. Spike is very, very average.
Did someone say he should be playing 20 minutes per game?
 
Yes, someone said, "Why not play him 20+ minutes a game or two?"

Just to have everyone on the same page, here's the relevant part of what PistolPt posted:

" *** I think CMP now would have no problem going with either guy in the tourney finding right flow of team . Spike 16 minutes yesterday and honestly I would love to see what he can do one of these games the next couple of weeks playing 20+ minutes."

I didn't realize Spike played 16+ minutes; that's pretty good in my view. So regardless of how people come out on this "issue," thanks for bringing that to the surface.
 
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Yes, someone said, "Why not play him 20+ minutes a game or two?"
I wouldn't split time with PJ with 20 each, but getting 10 give or take a few depending... would generally be okay with me...
 
Read the post boys and girls. Stated liked to see Spike play 20+ minutes in one of the games the next two weeks. Wouldn't hurt to build confidence taking a couple outside shots going forward and not like he's a mop up guy playing out a rout. As usual Texas grad on top of things and understanding.
 
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