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Please give Brohm a chance

I gave Agassi a chance. I gave Colleto a chance . I gave Hope and Hazell a chance. I even had high hopes for Akers. I'm sorry, but somewhere along the line, I gave away all my chances and lost my positivity and patience. I want results NOW. I can't wait any longer. I've become a bitter old man, and all this coach peak to me sounds like a broken record, as do all the fans saying, relax, sit back and give him a chance and more time. If we were paying him $1 million or less I'd be willing to cut him more slack. But with the higher paycheck, comes greater expectations. If I buy a Lexus, I expect it be more than a Camry. and if it's not, I complain. That's what Purdue football and the lack of success has made me.
Interesting. You gave chances to Agassi, Colletto, Hope, & Hazell. You didn't identify them, so I suppose you did not give Young and Tiller chances (What ever a "Chance" from you means???} If you are not willing to give Brohm a chance, then maybe we Purdue fan have a good thing going here. You seem to pick exactly wrong in who you give "chances" to, so I am excited you are not willing to give Brohm a chance!

All joking aside, new recruits will always take a wait and see attitude. It will take 2-3 more classes to build this program into something competitive.
 
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Ahh the better fan post. Any other board cliches?

I live in the heart of buckeye country and still realize the advantages they have over Purdue.

Until Purdue university bod makes football a priority, the comparisons are ridiculous


ok, I'll ask the question, what will it take to make the Purdue Board of Directors make football a priority? if fans accept mediocrity, why should the Purdue Board care or make a change?

Were Hazell and Hope the problem ? Morgan ? if the real problem is the Board of Directors, is Brohm going to be able to make much of a difference?

I know what it took in Alabama. It took one phone call from a Bank President and the Auburn coach was fired after a winning season. How can we gain the Purdue BOD 's attention and change their minds ? frankly, I really don't see this new facility being a big attraction to athletes, and it's definitely not attracting fans. Do we need a more vocal AD and fight the battle from within? or do we use outside financial pressure? I don't know the answer.
 
ok, I'll ask the question, what will it take to make the Purdue Board of Directors make football a priority? if fans accept mediocrity, why should the Purdue Board care or make a change?

Were Hazell and Hope the problem ? Morgan ? if the real problem is the Board of Directors, is Brohm going to be able to make much of a difference?

I know what it took in Alabama. It took one phone call from a Bank President and the Auburn coach was fired after a winning season. How can we gain the Purdue BOD 's attention and change their minds ? frankly, I really don't see this new facility being a big attraction to athletes, and it's definitely not attracting fans. Do we need a more vocal AD and fight the battle from within? or do we use outside financial pressure? I don't know the answer.

Facility is a step in the correct direction.

As for the board, good luck. They want a self sustaining program that doesn't embarrass the university. Winning is far down the list.
 
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Interesting. You gave chances to Agassi, Colletto, Hope, & Hazell. You didn't identify them, so I suppose you did not give Young and Tiller chances (What ever a "Chance" from you means???} If you are not willing to give Brohm a chance, then maybe we Purdue fan have a good thing going here. You seem to pick exactly wrong in who you give "chances" to, so I am excited you are not willing to give Brohm a chance!

All joking aside, new recruits will always take a wait and see attitude. It will take 2-3 more classes to build this program into something competitive.


My statement was incorrect. I gave Agassi and Colleto and Young and Tiller and Akers a chance. I did NOT give either Hope or Hazell a chance. and you can find old posts that I treated Hope and Hazell with the same skepticism I am currently giving Brohm.

In giving Agassi a chance, I was a very naïve 17 year old student who grew up in Wisconsin and knew very little about Purdue football and proudly sang the song from Hee Haw , Gloom , Despair and Agassi on me. Deep dark depression , excessive Vitale. if it weren't for Dierking, we'd have no wins at all. Gloom despair and Agassi on me." that was a very popular song on Campus and even more popular than POTFH ! I guess that you could call that me giving Agassi a chance.

I was a happy guy during the Young years except when Joe Montana a third string QB came in a game to beat us after we had killed their first two QBs and had a 17 point lead

I didn't complain much about Colleto and Akers because the internet didn't exist, and AOL doesn't really count. I actually liked the Akers hiring.

I didn't complain about Tiller and I gave him a chance , because I lost track and moved around and didn't follow Purdue football, and just assumed the Purdue AD knew what he was doing. News about Purdue football in Tampa was rather scarce, although Tampa loves Alstott ! Alstott is still a God in Tampa !

I didn't start being a complainer until they hired Hope, and then said he'd be an assistant for a year and then take over the next. and BOY that annoyed me. And I've been a complainer ever since.
 
TC4THREE : I agree with you and the majority of other posters here for the most part. . I'm a results oriented guy. I don't care much about the process as long as the final product meets my minimum standard. The basketball team and swimming, volleyball, golf, and other teams have all met my standards. So I don't talk about them very much. My standard for football is going 6-6. it's not a trip to the Rose Bowl or winning a Big 10 conference championship. if the football team goes 6-6 , I won't complain or care that much. However, as a results oriented guy, if the team doesn't meet those minimum standards, I will get in your face and tear your program apart to find out why, and I will offer my opinions as how to fix the problems and issues. That's what I was trained to do. Look at and evaluate processes.

Once Brohm goes 6-6, I'll stop complaining. I'll even support him and give him props and stop asking questions and providing suggestions as to how to run his business. The last time I gave a personal insight into my life experiences, people hated me and called me arrogant and a name dropper. But that's who I am and what I do. and I can't change. I'm proud of my life experiences. I'm that IG inspector who's here to help you. I'm THAT GUY ! that everyone hates.

I don't care who you are or what your life experiences are. Just interested in Purdue football. If you want to go off the deep end for the recruiting class he put together in a few weeks after taking over a program that had 9 wins in the previous 4 seasons and had neglected relationships throughout its recruiting area in that time, then I can't stop that. You clearly neglect to take into account factors that are beyond the control of a new coach that has taken over probably one of the worst P5 programs less than 2 months ago. This is a building process and recruiting is dependent on things like relationships, that he hasn't had the chance to build here yet, and winning which he also hasn't had the chance to do here or reap the benefits from. So if you're going to come down hard on this, you're ignoring a bunch of things. Not the least of which is that this class could end up being much better than it has been subjectively ranked anyway.
 
My statement was incorrect. I gave Agassi and Colleto and Young and Tiller and Akers a chance. I did NOT give either Hope or Hazell a chance. and you can find old posts that I treated Hope and Hazell with the same skepticism I am currently giving Brohm.

In giving Agassi a chance, I was a very naïve 17 year old student who grew up in Wisconsin and knew very little about Purdue football and proudly sang the song from Hee Haw , Gloom , Despair and Agassi on me. Deep dark depression , excessive Vitale. if it weren't for Dierking, we'd have no wins at all. Gloom despair and Agassi on me." that was a very popular song on Campus and even more popular than POTFH ! I guess that you could call that me giving Agassi a chance.

I was a happy guy during the Young years except when Joe Montana a third string QB came in a game to beat us after we had killed their first two QBs and had a 17 point lead

I didn't complain much about Colleto and Akers because the internet didn't exist, and AOL doesn't really count. I actually liked the Akers hiring.

I didn't complain about Tiller and I gave him a chance , because I lost track and moved around and didn't follow Purdue football, and just assumed the Purdue AD knew what he was doing. News about Purdue football in Tampa was rather scarce, although Tampa loves Alstott ! Alstott is still a God in Tampa !

I didn't start being a complainer until they hired Hope, and then said he'd be an assistant for a year and then take over the next. and BOY that annoyed me. And I've been a complainer ever since.
I waa at that Joe Montana game. Thought we had it won. We were ahead by 14 or 17 points when we knocked out their first string an. Then Joe came in. Ugh!
 
nobody ever said 5* recruits. What I am most upset about are all the 2* recruit commitments without any other power 5 school offers. I didn't like many of Hazell's recruits either. If other power 5 schools are not interested in these players, why is Brohm interested? other than he recruited them while he was at WKU. Dorothy said it best. We're not in Kansas anymore. Rather than pursuing the same recruits Brohm recruited for WKU, I expected him to recruit the same level of players other power 5 schools and BIG 10 teams recruited.
So when do you think the 3 and 4 star guys the other teams recruit were first contacted? It sure wasn't this December. It started years ago. Your expectation level for a staff which just arrived in December is warped. Sorry about your misery.
 
TC4THREE : I agree with you and the majority of other posters here for the most part. . I'm a results oriented guy. I don't care much about the process as long as the final product meets my minimum standard. The basketball team and swimming, volleyball, golf, and other teams have all met my standards. So I don't talk about them very much. My standard for football is going 6-6. it's not a trip to the Rose Bowl or winning a Big 10 conference championship. if the football team goes 6-6 , I won't complain or care that much. However, as a results oriented guy, if the team doesn't meet those minimum standards, I will get in your face and tear your program apart to find out why, and I will offer my opinions as how to fix the problems and issues. That's what I was trained to do. Look at and evaluate processes.

Once Brohm goes 6-6, I'll stop complaining. I'll even support him and give him props and stop asking questions and providing suggestions as to how to run his business. The last time I gave a personal insight into my life experiences, people hated me and called me arrogant and a name dropper. But that's who I am and what I do. and I can't change. I'm proud of my life experiences. I'm that IG inspector who's here to help you. I'm THAT GUY ! that everyone hates.

So on one had you say you are strictly a results guy...yet then say you are trained to look at and evaluate processes? Dude, you don't make any sense at all. If you are truly a 'processes guy,' you would understand the immense task at hand for Brohm and that any movement forward in any aspect of the program at this point is a positive result.

You are a pompous asshat who is giving yourself a way out if Brohm does in fact 'live up to your expectations' because you will claim you knew exactly what to do and won't show up here to give Brohm his credit (your words, not mine). Meanwhile you state you will be around and 'get in people's faces' if they don't live up to your expectations, essentially saying you will be on this board filling it with vitriol and ignorance even more. My guess is that everyone hates you because, flat out, everyone hates you.
I'm just calling it how I see it and I'm a results guy as well...your results from your posts show a lack of intimate knowledge of the workings of a football program and what is needed at this point to rebuild it. My suggestion: stick to whatever it is you do because you clearly are big shot....dare I say bigly shot?
 
ok, I'll ask the question, what will it take to make the Purdue Board of Directors make football a priority? if fans accept mediocrity, why should the Purdue Board care or make a change?

Were Hazell and Hope the problem ? Morgan ? if the real problem is the Board of Directors, is Brohm going to be able to make much of a difference?

I know what it took in Alabama. It took one phone call from a Bank President and the Auburn coach was fired after a winning season. How can we gain the Purdue BOD 's attention and change their minds ? frankly, I really don't see this new facility being a big attraction to athletes, and it's definitely not attracting fans. Do we need a more vocal AD and fight the battle from within? or do we use outside financial pressure? I don't know the answer.

So your suggestion is to have people who are wealthy use their influence to hurt some one else's job and reputation? That sounds totally reasonable and justifiable. Again, you have zero clue about what actually goes on within a major college football program. Your last sentence from this is something you should repeat in the mirror frequently until you truly understand it: 'I don't know the answer.'
 
So your suggestion is to have people who are wealthy use their influence to hurt some one else's job and reputation? That sounds totally reasonable and justifiable. Again, you have zero clue about what actually goes on within a major college football program. Your last sentence from this is something you should repeat in the mirror frequently until you truly understand it: 'I don't know the answer.'
For someone so pompous, he really has no clue does he? Some of what he says is mind blowing how off it is.
 
Let's put it a different way. I just asked the people on this board what your speculated 4-3 defense would be, and your first answer was we'll wait and see what happens at spring practice. Way to go out on a limb. I finally saw somebody make an honest attempt at one only to see people criticize his attempt.

As for recruiting you say a coach needs to develop a relationship first. If you did some reasearch, you could see all of the guys Brohm signed he had already developed a relationship with and had been recruiting for the past two years. He didn't just start recruiting these guys in December. It's not like he had to start with a clean board. So it's an ignorant claim to make that he only had two months. He basically had his targets from 1-2 years, and just used the last 2 months to convince them to follow him to Purdue. He didn't just flip WKU commits, but he also flipped many of their targeted and offered players.

And yes it seems I take a lot of flack from certain posters. And many here say I have no clue of what I'm talking about and that's not the way it's done here. I've read a lot of your posts before posting my own. And I haven't seen many of you post your own original ideas. All you do is criticize ideas that are different. If you don't like my ideas, how about providing some of your own rather than cutting and pasting and putting others down? Another important football related stat. Is the post/like ratio. It tells a lot about a person and what he posts. 25,000/3,000 says a lot. Consider that my first blow.
 
Let's put it a different way. I just asked the people on this board what your speculated 4-3 defense would be, and your first answer was we'll wait and see what happens at spring practice. Way to go out on a limb. I finally saw somebody make an honest attempt at one only to see people criticize his attempt.

Yes. Shame on people for not speculating on something they have no real insight on at this point. How dare they wait for more information before making a rash judgment!
 
Yes. Shame on people for not speculating on something they have no real insight on at this point. How dare they wait for more information before making a rash judgment!

Can I quote you on that? In other words, you just admitted to not knowing anything more than me?
 
Let's put it a different way. I just asked the people on this board what your speculated 4-3 defense would be, and your first answer was we'll wait and see what happens at spring practice. Way to go out on a limb. I finally saw somebody make an honest attempt at one only to see people criticize his attempt.

As for recruiting you say a coach needs to develop a relationship first. If you did some reasearch, you could see all of the guys Brohm signed he had already developed a relationship with and had been recruiting for the past two years. He didn't just start recruiting these guys in December. It's not like he had to start with a clean board. So it's an ignorant claim to make that he only had two months. He basically had his targets from 1-2 years, and just used the last 2 months to convince them to follow him to Purdue. He didn't just flip WKU commits, but he also flipped many of their targeted and offered players.

And yes it seems I take a lot of flack from certain posters. And many here say I have no clue of what I'm talking about and that's not the way it's done here. I've read a lot of your posts before posting my own. And I haven't seen many of you post your own original ideas. All you do is criticize ideas that are different. If you don't like my ideas, how about providing some of your own rather than cutting and pasting and putting others down? Another important football related stat. Is the post/like ratio. It tells a lot about a person and what he posts. 25,000/3,000 says a lot. Consider that my first blow.

But your issue is that you have ZERO clue and your ideas are total crap. Honestly, that is the only way I can put it. You have, multiple times, posted an idea only to then counter your own claim with ideas/speculation/thoughts that run counter to your first claim. For instance, you are crapping on Brohm's recruiting in the two months he had AT Purdue. Did you ever think that after he had done his research on the players he had from Hazell/Parker and evaluated them he saw that the guys he had an established relationship were better recruits? Considering WKU the last three years probably would have hung 40-50 on Purdue and beaten them...I wouldn't doubt it. Honestly, take a moment to make a clear thought here: Did you realize that after Brohm's hiring, most of the recruits that stuck through with Parker didn't jump ship immediately? What likely happened is exactly as I stated above...Brohm evaluated the players heavily and found that players he had established relationships with OR that had already had ties to Purdue were better players for his program than the ones previously? I would venture to say this 'idea' is likely plausible because the recruiting rankings WENT UP with Brohm by 10-12 spots on Rivals and more on ESPN.

I'll steal a line from Max Kellerman to Stephen A. Smith: "I tell it how it is...you tell it how it might be." There is a big difference.
 
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Show me a post where anybody expected Brohm to bring in a top rated class! What I am saying is I expected More from Brohm. There are only 4 recruits left from Hazell's class. So this class is all on Brohm. He wanted and has put his own brand on it. The vast majority of these recruits are players Brohm had recruited while at WKU the past 2 years. The players appear to be better than what Hazell recruited. But I was hoping it wouldn't be last in the BIG 10 once again. I credit Brohm for his work ethics, but after reading all the great things about his hire, my expectations were a lot higher than they should have been. And now reality has replaced expectations. I never expected a great class. I just was hoping it would be better than last once more.

O get a life!! You don't know anything about this coach or his staff yet except his WKU record, what is posted on this board, and his #68 recruiting class rankings. Transition is just that...whether he kept four or more of Hazell's recruits...whatever. We'll all find out in time. Have a cup of coffee, or a glass of ice tea, and just concentrate on other more important things. You can't change the immediate, so wait like the rest of us for spring ball, then maybe we'll get some clue as to next fall. Meanwhile, I'm going to sleep easy tonight, even as a lifetime Purdue fan who has witnessed only two Rose Bowls in over 50 years. Cubs fans finally won. We will too, in time. I may be dead then, but my children will remember ol Dad at the time and smile, thankful that I did not die of stress on
this board.
 
Part of my point and you continue to criticize or it is that the rest of you don't know much more than I do. All you do is go to KHC and then regurgitate what you read there. I know a lot more about Brohm than just his UK record. I'd reveal more, but you don't want to hear it.

I didn't contradict myself about his recruiting. I said I wasn't impressed. I also said in order for Purdue to improve our recruiting has to be better than our opponents. I praised Brohm for being better than Hazell, but cut him down for not being better than any other BIG 10 team. I also said in rating recruits, if you don't like the star rating, look at what other schools gave them offers. With hazel l it was very easy to criticize because Purdue was often the recruit's only power 5 offer.

You all want to keep saying in Brohm's defense that he only had two months to assemble this recruiting class. I've pointed out several times that almost every recruit he added to this class he had previously recruited while at WKU. And you can see it on the players' tweets, on the WKU site and their scouting profiles his previous contacts made. So my point is god or bad, unlike Hazell's first class where everybody said wait and see, and give it a year, this class is definitely Brohm's class and he had more than just 2 months to build it. So all credit and blame goes to Brohm.

yes, Brohm had a high powered attack at WKU. Will it work in the BIG 10 ? Is our pass blocking good enough to provide Blough the time to throw? We added a juco and a quality offensive lineman.

And from what I'm reading, many of you believe Brohm encouraged many of Hazell's lesser recruits to decommit, and many of you are happy they did. I have doubts upon Brohm's arrival that those recruits really wanted to leave. There are some people if a scholarship was offered by a former coach, it should be honored.

Many of you don't realize I've been here since 2013, not last November. I read al l your posts about give hazell a chance, he needs more time, he only had 2 months, blah , blah blah. Some of your posts look like cut and past fro m several years ago. I'm sorry that I refuse to wait. You might say this is a huge I told you so to several members who argued with me previously.

My final assessment - this is Brohm's team. For better and worse, he signed the players he wanted and had spent the last 1-2 years recruiting. he's going to use the same philosophy and formula that worked for him at WKU. Hazell came to Purdue with a philosophy that worked for him, and worked for OSU, but flopped at Purdue. Are the players Brohm recruited talented enough to implement that offense at Purdue?

I believe we can al l agree unless a coach give under the table concessions, the key to winning is recruiting and the key to recruiting is winning. Athletes flock to a winning program. If Purdue doesn't start winning, will they see an improvement in recruiting ? and are Brohm's recruits and coaching staff good enough to start winning?

and yes, I'll admit I get frustrated by fans who believe 4-8 and 5-7 are good years and what we should expect. and yes, I'll also admit I get frustrated by fans who said the exact same thing when Hazell was hired. I read your game day laments You get very upset during games, yet , during the off season, you want to take a wait and see approach. a quality loss is still a loss. Almost a win, is also still a loss. In the archives, the game summaries about almost winning are usually deleted.

You constantly say I don't know anything. but in reality, most of you don't anything more than me. Rather than criticizing others, I'd really enjoy reading some of your "ORIGINAL" ideas of how to improve our team.
 
Part of my point and you continue to criticize or it is that the rest of you don't know much more than I do. All you do is go to KHC and then regurgitate what you read there. I know a lot more about Brohm than just his UK record. I'd reveal more, but you don't want to hear it.

I didn't contradict myself about his recruiting. I said I wasn't impressed. I also said in order for Purdue to improve our recruiting has to be better than our opponents. I praised Brohm for being better than Hazell, but cut him down for not being better than any other BIG 10 team. I also said in rating recruits, if you don't like the star rating, look at what other schools gave them offers. With hazel l it was very easy to criticize because Purdue was often the recruit's only power 5 offer.

You all want to keep saying in Brohm's defense that he only had two months to assemble this recruiting class. I've pointed out several times that almost every recruit he added to this class he had previously recruited while at WKU. And you can see it on the players' tweets, on the WKU site and their scouting profiles his previous contacts made. So my point is god or bad, unlike Hazell's first class where everybody said wait and see, and give it a year, this class is definitely Brohm's class and he had more than just 2 months to build it. So all credit and blame goes to Brohm.

yes, Brohm had a high powered attack at WKU. Will it work in the BIG 10 ? Is our pass blocking good enough to provide Blough the time to throw? We added a juco and a quality offensive lineman.

And from what I'm reading, many of you believe Brohm encouraged many of Hazell's lesser recruits to decommit, and many of you are happy they did. I have doubts upon Brohm's arrival that those recruits really wanted to leave. There are some people if a scholarship was offered by a former coach, it should be honored.

Many of you don't realize I've been here since 2013, not last November. I read al l your posts about give hazell a chance, he needs more time, he only had 2 months, blah , blah blah. Some of your posts look like cut and past fro m several years ago. I'm sorry that I refuse to wait. You might say this is a huge I told you so to several members who argued with me previously.

My final assessment - this is Brohm's team. For better and worse, he signed the players he wanted and had spent the last 1-2 years recruiting. he's going to use the same philosophy and formula that worked for him at WKU. Hazell came to Purdue with a philosophy that worked for him, and worked for OSU, but flopped at Purdue. Are the players Brohm recruited talented enough to implement that offense at Purdue?

I believe we can al l agree unless a coach give under the table concessions, the key to winning is recruiting and the key to recruiting is winning. Athletes flock to a winning program. If Purdue doesn't start winning, will they see an improvement in recruiting ? and are Brohm's recruits and coaching staff good enough to start winning?

and yes, I'll admit I get frustrated by fans who believe 4-8 and 5-7 are good years and what we should expect. and yes, I'll also admit I get frustrated by fans who said the exact same thing when Hazell was hired. I read your game day laments You get very upset during games, yet , during the off season, you want to take a wait and see approach. a quality loss is still a loss. Almost a win, is also still a loss. In the archives, the game summaries about almost winning are usually deleted.

You constantly say I don't know anything. but in reality, most of you don't anything more than me. Rather than criticizing others, I'd really enjoy reading some of your "ORIGINAL" ideas of how to improve our team.
 
Part of my point and you continue to criticize or it is that the rest of you don't know much more than I do. All you do is go to KHC and then regurgitate what you read there. I know a lot more about Brohm than just his UK record. I'd reveal more, but you don't want to hear it.

I didn't contradict myself about his recruiting. I said I wasn't impressed. I also said in order for Purdue to improve our recruiting has to be better than our opponents. I praised Brohm for being better than Hazell, but cut him down for not being better than any other BIG 10 team. I also said in rating recruits, if you don't like the star rating, look at what other schools gave them offers. With hazel l it was very easy to criticize because Purdue was often the recruit's only power 5 offer.

You all want to keep saying in Brohm's defense that he only had two months to assemble this recruiting class. I've pointed out several times that almost every recruit he added to this class he had previously recruited while at WKU. And you can see it on the players' tweets, on the WKU site and their scouting profiles his previous contacts made. So my point is god or bad, unlike Hazell's first class where everybody said wait and see, and give it a year, this class is definitely Brohm's class and he had more than just 2 months to build it. So all credit and blame goes to Brohm.

yes, Brohm had a high powered attack at WKU. Will it work in the BIG 10 ? Is our pass blocking good enough to provide Blough the time to throw? We added a juco and a quality offensive lineman.

And from what I'm reading, many of you believe Brohm encouraged many of Hazell's lesser recruits to decommit, and many of you are happy they did. I have doubts upon Brohm's arrival that those recruits really wanted to leave. There are some people if a scholarship was offered by a former coach, it should be honored.

Many of you don't realize I've been here since 2013, not last November. I read al l your posts about give hazell a chance, he needs more time, he only had 2 months, blah , blah blah. Some of your posts look like cut and past fro m several years ago. I'm sorry that I refuse to wait. You might say this is a huge I told you so to several members who argued with me previously.

My final assessment - this is Brohm's team. For better and worse, he signed the players he wanted and had spent the last 1-2 years recruiting. he's going to use the same philosophy and formula that worked for him at WKU. Hazell came to Purdue with a philosophy that worked for him, and worked for OSU, but flopped at Purdue. Are the players Brohm recruited talented enough to implement that offense at Purdue?

I believe we can al l agree unless a coach give under the table concessions, the key to winning is recruiting and the key to recruiting is winning. Athletes flock to a winning program. If Purdue doesn't start winning, will they see an improvement in recruiting ? and are Brohm's recruits and coaching staff good enough to start winning?

and yes, I'll admit I get frustrated by fans who believe 4-8 and 5-7 are good years and what we should expect. and yes, I'll also admit I get frustrated by fans who said the exact same thing when Hazell was hired. I read your game day laments You get very upset during games, yet , during the off season, you want to take a wait and see approach. a quality loss is still a loss. Almost a win, is also still a loss. In the archives, the game summaries about almost winning are usually deleted.

You constantly say I don't know anything. but in reality, most of you don't anything more than me. Rather than criticizing others, I'd really enjoy reading some of your "ORIGINAL" ideas of how to improve our team.

Honestly I quit reading after you claimed I didn't know more than you and said I get my info from KHC only.

I refuse to give up my sources but I'll simply say this: the individuals that I know that have shared information and insider looks are intrinsically affiliated with the program. Hall of Fame former players and former college hall mates who played while I was at Purdue. I got an inside look by being friends with most of the team while in college through tutoring and endless nights of gameing. I met Coach Tiller multiple times and was invited to practices because of my work to help players with multiple academic and personal issues.

I also read a TON about the workings of college football and understand that there are layers upon layers that make a program successful. Hazell's inability to get to those layers, most importantly player-coach relationship, was his biggest flaw.

Again, find a mirror and repeat what you said previously: I don't know anything.
 
Part of my point and you continue to criticize or it is that the rest of you don't know much more than I do. All you do is go to KHC and then regurgitate what you read there. I know a lot more about Brohm than just his UK record. I'd reveal more, but you don't want to hear it.

I didn't contradict myself about his recruiting. I said I wasn't impressed. I also said in order for Purdue to improve our recruiting has to be better than our opponents. I praised Brohm for being better than Hazell, but cut him down for not being better than any other BIG 10 team. I also said in rating recruits, if you don't like the star rating, look at what other schools gave them offers. With hazel l it was very easy to criticize because Purdue was often the recruit's only power 5 offer.

You all want to keep saying in Brohm's defense that he only had two months to assemble this recruiting class. I've pointed out several times that almost every recruit he added to this class he had previously recruited while at WKU. And you can see it on the players' tweets, on the WKU site and their scouting profiles his previous contacts made. So my point is god or bad, unlike Hazell's first class where everybody said wait and see, and give it a year, this class is definitely Brohm's class and he had more than just 2 months to build it. So all credit and blame goes to Brohm.

yes, Brohm had a high powered attack at WKU. Will it work in the BIG 10 ? Is our pass blocking good enough to provide Blough the time to throw? We added a juco and a quality offensive lineman.

And from what I'm reading, many of you believe Brohm encouraged many of Hazell's lesser recruits to decommit, and many of you are happy they did. I have doubts upon Brohm's arrival that those recruits really wanted to leave. There are some people if a scholarship was offered by a former coach, it should be honored.

Many of you don't realize I've been here since 2013, not last November. I read al l your posts about give hazell a chance, he needs more time, he only had 2 months, blah , blah blah. Some of your posts look like cut and past fro m several years ago. I'm sorry that I refuse to wait. You might say this is a huge I told you so to several members who argued with me previously.

My final assessment - this is Brohm's team. For better and worse, he signed the players he wanted and had spent the last 1-2 years recruiting. he's going to use the same philosophy and formula that worked for him at WKU. Hazell came to Purdue with a philosophy that worked for him, and worked for OSU, but flopped at Purdue. Are the players Brohm recruited talented enough to implement that offense at Purdue?

I believe we can al l agree unless a coach give under the table concessions, the key to winning is recruiting and the key to recruiting is winning. Athletes flock to a winning program. If Purdue doesn't start winning, will they see an improvement in recruiting ? and are Brohm's recruits and coaching staff good enough to start winning?

and yes, I'll admit I get frustrated by fans who believe 4-8 and 5-7 are good years and what we should expect. and yes, I'll also admit I get frustrated by fans who said the exact same thing when Hazell was hired. I read your game day laments You get very upset during games, yet , during the off season, you want to take a wait and see approach. a quality loss is still a loss. Almost a win, is also still a loss. In the archives, the game summaries about almost winning are usually deleted.

You constantly say I don't know anything. but in reality, most of you don't anything more than me. Rather than criticizing others, I'd really enjoy reading some of your "ORIGINAL" ideas of how to improve our team.
Wow, that was a whole lotta words just to say you don't know anything and are just trying to blow smoke up everyone's butt.
 
Well duh, our results the last 4 years have kind of reflected the ranking of our recruiting class. It's my belief this class may be the best recruiting class Purdue has had in the past 5 years. However, what is not talked about on this forum very much except your IU taunts, is that every other team in the BIG 10 including Rutgers also had a very strong recruiting class. In a couple of years, the BIG 10 will be the strongest conference top to bottom. I see our progress. But I also see the progress of our BIG 10 opposition. Like the election, we need to stop talking about what Brohm did at WKU. That's the past. We need to to stop comparing Brohm to Hazell. It's a given by default any coach would be better than Hazell. We need to start comparing Brohm with his contemporary other BIG 10 coaches and the job they are doing at their respective schools. From this day forward, We need to compare him to Smith, Allen, and Fleck etc.
You have way too much time on your hands to be showing this much stress. Swallow your HBP pill and go take a nap.
 
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