ADVERTISEMENT

Player and Team PPG average next season

N

nagemj02

All-American
Mar 16, 2010
10,189
1,556
113
Last season's 78 PPG average (approximate) was the highest scoring output by a Purdue team in 18 seasons. Hammons is obviously a big loss (Davis and Hill to a lesser extent in this aspect) but with a fair share of quality returnees, this season's team figures to be another one that averages in the 70's for the season.

I know there's more to the game and more to winning than scoring output but just for fun, how much do you think each player will average and how much will the team average overall?


Here's a refresher of the returnees' scoring stats from last season: http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/team/stats/_/id/2509/purdue-boilermakers

As well as Basil Smotherman's stats: http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/66195/basil-smotherman
And Spike Albrecht's stats: http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/61807/spike-Albrecht


Boiler Up
 
I think Purdue will average about 80. We're going to need to as the D isn't going to be as good as in year's past. As such, I'm seeing:

Swanigan - 15
V Edwards - 14
Haas - 14
Mathias - 8
C. Edwards - 7
Cline - 6
Thompson - 6
Albrecht - 5
Smotherman - 3
Taylor - 2


If Spike is healthy and takes the starting job and heavier workload from PJ, flip him to 7 and PJ to 4.
 
To be a winning team that competes for the B1G title they need to score in the 80s, however that is divided. CS leads team in scoring, rebounding and turnovers..
 
I think next year's team has the potential to be better offensively because we won't ever have a guy on the court that defenses can not guard like they were doing to Ray and Hill at the end of the year. Haas is going to shoot a lot of free throws with the clock stopped. Carsen Edwards, Spike and PJ should all be upgrades f
boilerzz said:
I think Purdue will average about 80. We're going to need to as the D isn't going to be as good as in year's past. As such, I'm seeing:

Swanigan - 15
V Edwards - 14
Haas - 14
Mathias - 8
C. Edwards - 7
Cline - 6
Thompson - 6
Albrecht - 5
Smotherman - 3
Taylor - 2


If Spike is healthy and takes the starting job and heavier workload from PJ, flip him to 7 and PJ to 4.
Click to expand...

I think you hit it on the head Boilerzz. I think the consistent scoring will come from Swanigan, Haas and Vince, and then everybody else will fluctuate each game based on who is hot.

Not to put too much pressure on a freshman, but I think the only way this team has a chance at a Final Four is if CEdwards has an all-freshman BIG10 type of season and basically comes in and takes over the PG spot right away. We absolutely need a PG who runs the show and is dynamic driving, passing and shooting. He might have a chance. Just like last year, we have a really good roster with a lot of talent, but guards win in the tournament. Spike is a nice player, but he was never one that scared me, so if he beats out both PJ and CEdwards (after hip surgery), than we are in trouble.
 
  • Like
Reactions: nagemj02
boilerzz said:
I think Purdue will average about 80. We're going to need to as the D isn't going to be as good as in year's past. As such, I'm seeing:

Swanigan - 15
V Edwards - 14
Haas - 14
Mathias - 8
C. Edwards - 7
Cline - 6
Thompson - 6
Albrecht - 5
Smotherman - 3
Taylor - 2


If Spike is healthy and takes the starting job and heavier workload from PJ, flip him to 7 and PJ to 4.
Click to expand...

I disagree. I think Haas averages 13.
 
  • Like
Reactions: atmafola, Schnelk, Boiler Buck and 3 others
I'm not sure that they will average 78 again. That was the first time since 1997-1998 that the Boilers had that large of a scoring output. They might be close, though.
 
boilerzz said:
I think Purdue will average about 80. We're going to need to as the D isn't going to be as good as in year's past. As such, I'm seeing:

Swanigan - 15
V Edwards - 14
Haas - 14
Mathias - 8
C. Edwards - 7
Cline - 6
Thompson - 6
Albrecht - 5
Smotherman - 3
Taylor - 2


If Spike is healthy and takes the starting job and heavier workload from PJ, flip him to 7 and PJ to 4.
Click to expand...

Don't sleep on Cline. Big jump coming.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Schnelk, PU52Chevy and CRBoiler
nagemj02 said:
I'm not sure that they will average 78 again. That was the first time since 1997-1998 that the Boilers had that large of a scoring output. They might be close, though.
Click to expand...

I haven't looked @ the data, but I think the 30 second clock had the potential to up scoring just a bit in allot of teams last year and in years to come....
 
  • Like
Reactions: nagemj02
Gemini95 said:
Vince - 4π
Caleb - 4π
Isaac - π²
Dakota, Ryan, Spike, PJ, Basil, Carsen - 2π
Jacquil - π
Click to expand...

If the Boilers don't get out of the first round again.....

CMP - 2π's

Threes+Company+2.gif
 
If I could predict the future I wouldn't be here typing this post...I would be on a beach somewhere with my butler bringing me a drink and him typing this post:

I say about the same maybe a tick higher 80-84 per game:

Vince-16
Caleb-14
Isaac-12
Cline:8
Mathias-7
Spike -6
PJ-6
Basil-5
Carsen-4
Jacquil-4 (I wish 10+...ha ha next year)

I think depending on the opponent matchups we could have many different leading scorers every night...V. Edwards, Biggie, Haas and Cline seem to me to be the one's who could have break out games and go for 15 to 20+.

The rest are solid role players who will all be key to our victories.....

Basketball is a team game and it will take a team effort to win 25+ games this year....

I think we do and do very well in Big Ten regular season, BTT and NCAAT.

Boiler Up!
 
  • Like
Reactions: Dakota Girl
I'm going to be real surprised is Biggie doesn't average 18-20. His mission this year is to not be here next year and I don't see 14-15 being acceptable to him.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Dakota Girl
SIBoiler2 said:
I'm going to be real surprised is Biggie doesn't average 18-20. His mission this year is to not be here next year and I don't see 14-15 being acceptable to him.
Click to expand...

I get where you're coming from on this, SIB. I wouldn't be surprised either way. Caleb Swanigan would join a pretty good list. One of the board "stat" guys can check me on this, but I think since Glenn Robinson, only Cuonzo Martin, Carl Landry (2), and JaJuan Johnson have averaged 18+ per game for a season. E'Twaun Moore's best was right at 18/game in 2011.

I think CS will lead the team in scoring, and the Boilers will be in the high 70's per game.
 
Purdue Grad in Texas said:
I get where you're coming from on this, SIB. I wouldn't be surprised either way. Caleb Swanigan would join a pretty good list. One of the board "stat" guys can check me on this, but I think since Glenn Robinson, only Cuonzo Martin, Carl Landry (2), and JaJuan Johnson have averaged 18+ per game for a season. E'Twaun Moore's best was right at 18/game in 2011.

I think CS will lead the team in scoring, and the Boilers will be in the high 70's per game.
Click to expand...
Biggie was a 5 star, Mr. BB, and McD AA coming in. He's learned the ropes via freshman struggles. The lane will be less clogged this year with only IH to compete with in the middle and I'm betting mid-range to 3's is his concentration area this summer. His qualifications coming in put him right up there with Robinson and above the other 3 so I think he'll explode.
 
nagemj02 said:
Last season's 78 PPG average (approximate) was the highest scoring output by a Purdue team in 18 seasons. Hammons is obviously a big loss (Davis and Hill to a lesser extent in this aspect) but with a fair share of quality returnees, this season's team figures to be another one that averages in the 70's for the season.

I know there's more to the game and more to winning than scoring output but just for fun, how much do you think each player will average and how much will the team average overall?


Here's a refresher of the returnees' scoring stats from last season: http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/team/stats/_/id/2509/purdue-boilermakers

As well as Basil Smotherman's stats: http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/66195/basil-smotherman
And Spike Albrecht's stats: http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/61807/spike-Albrecht


Boiler Up
Click to expand...
Haas 17
Biggie 15
VEdwards 13
Mathias 9
Cline 7
Spike 6
Thompson 5
Smotherman 4
CEdwards 2
Taylor 2

I could be way low on Carson Edwards as my assumption was that he would play no more than 10 minutes/game. If he grabs more minutes, he could take points from Albreicht, Thompson, and Cline.
 
BoilerDaddy said:
Haas 17
Biggie 15
VEdwards 13
Mathias 9
Cline 7
Spike 6
Thompson 5
Smotherman 4
CEdwards 2
Taylor 2

I could be way low on Carson Edwards as my assumption was that he would play no more than 10 minutes/game. If he grabs more minutes, he could take points from Albreicht, Thompson, and Cline.
Click to expand...


We never know what will happen but barring an unforeseen issue, I'm pretty confident C. Edwards is going to average more than 2 a game. I'm sure he will have some struggles here and there (turnovers might be the main culprit), but unless Albrecht can get back to the level he was at in '14-'15 at Michigan, I think CE will end up taking over the majority of the starter's minutes at the 1.

I'll go:

V. Edwards: 14 PPG
Swanigan: 13 PPG
Haas: 12 PPG
Mathias: 8 PPG
C. Edwards: 7 PPG
Thompson: 6 PPG
Cline: 5 PPG
Smotherman: 5 PPG
Taylor: 3 PPG
Albrecht: 2 PPG (I just have a feeling that it's going to be more difficult than expected for Spike to stay injury free and stave off the other effects of his hip surgery. I hope I'm wrong about this.)
McKeeman, Eifert, Tommy Luce: 1 PPG

Team: 76 PPG

Boiler Up
 
nagemj02 said:
We never know what will happen but barring an unforeseen issue, I'm pretty confident C. Edwards is going to average more than 2 a game. I'm sure he will have some struggles here and there (turnovers might be the main culprit), but unless Albrecht can get back to the level he was at in '14-'15 at Michigan, I think CE will end up taking over the majority of the starter's minutes at the 1.

I'll go:

V. Edwards: 14 PPG
Swanigan: 13 PPG
Haas: 12 PPG
Mathias: 8 PPG
C. Edwards: 7 PPG
Thompson: 6 PPG
Cline: 5 PPG
Smotherman: 5 PPG
Taylor: 3 PPG
Albrecht: 2 PPG (I just have a feeling that it's going to be more difficult than expected for Spike to stay injury free and stave off the other effects of his hip surgery. I hope I'm wrong about this.)
McKeeman, Eifert, Tommy Luce: 1 PPG

Team: 76 PPG

Boiler Up
Click to expand...
Assuming that C. Edwards averages 10 points per 40 minutes, he would need to average 28 minutes/game to average 7 points per game. Since I have never seen him play, I took a more conservative approach of assuming that he isn't ready to beat out PJ or Spike, but I really have no idea how good and ready he will be.

Other than that, my biggest disagreement is that I think that you are way low on Haas. He is one of the hardest players to guard in the entire country, scoring 27.4 points per 40 minutes last season. If he only averages 12 points per game, it probably means that he is having major issues with foul trouble, which does not bode well for Purdue.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Dakota Girl, BBG and SIBoiler2
BoilerDaddy said:
Assuming that C. Edwards averages 10 points per 40 minutes, he would need to average 28 minutes/game to average 7 points per game. Since I have never seen him play, I took a more conservative approach of assuming that he isn't ready to beat out PJ or Spike, but I really have no idea how good and ready he will be.

Other than that, my biggest disagreement is that I think that you are way low on Haas. He is one of the hardest players to guard in the entire country, scoring 27.4 points per 40 minutes last season. If he only averages 12 points per game, it probably means that he is having major issues with foul trouble, which does not bode well for Purdue.
Click to expand...
While what you say about Haas could be true, a flip side is if he averages 12 it might also mean we have really balanced scoring and someone else went up (like cline).

Not discounting what you said at all, just took a different path is all.
 
  • Like
Reactions: nagemj02 and Dakota Girl
BoilerDaddy said:
Assuming that C. Edwards averages 10 points per 40 minutes, he would need to average 28 minutes/game to average 7 points per game. Since I have never seen him play, I took a more conservative approach of assuming that he isn't ready to beat out PJ or Spike, but I really have no idea how good and ready he will be.

Other than that, my biggest disagreement is that I think that you are way low on Haas. He is one of the hardest players to guard in the entire country, scoring 27.4 points per 40 minutes last season. If he only averages 12 points per game, it probably means that he is having major issues with foul trouble, which does not bode well for Purdue.
Click to expand...

We definitely need Carsen Edwards to be better than PJ and Spike and more productive this season to have a chance at making a run. No offense to either PJ or Spike, but both have physical limitations that keep them from being above average point guards. PJ really is just more of a spot up shooter once we get in the half court, and Spike has mostly been a career back up who is coming off major hip surgery. If Carsen can't beat them out this season, then this season will go pretty similar to last season.

I agree with you on Haas...I think it just comes down to how many minutes he can play.
 
  • Like
Reactions: nagemj02
Haas 16 Many more minutes than last year, easily more points, most efficient player on team
Swanigan 15 Slightly more efficient, a few more minutes per game
Vince 15 More shots taken, more aggressive
Mathias 7
PJ 5 less ppg due to more competition at pg, less minutes than last year
Cline 5 doesn't ride the bench early in the season like last year
Smotherman 5 (biggest unknown, low ppg due to minutes played)Has big games, then disappears
Spike 3 Will he be healthy?
CE 3 He either plays more at seasons end, or he is out of rotation
Taylor 2 He plays, but not more than 5 to 8 mpg
76ppg
 
since1980 said:
We definitely need Carsen Edwards to be better than PJ and Spike and more productive this season to have a chance at making a run. No offense to either PJ or Spike, but both have physical limitations that keep them from being above average point guards. PJ really is just more of a spot up shooter once we get in the half court, and Spike has mostly been a career back up who is coming off major hip surgery. If Carsen can't beat them out this season, then this season will go pretty similar to last season.

I agree with you on Haas...I think it just comes down to how many minutes he can play.
Click to expand...
I agree to an extent. If Edwards turns out to be Jeff Teague, he'll certainly be a difference maker, but I am not counting on that being the case.

I think that PJ and Spike will be effective in the half court offensively. If Purdue's front line is as good as I think it will be, a 40% spot up 3 point shooter who moves the ball and doesn't turn it over is a great asset.

Defense is a bit of a concern with both PJ and Spike, but the bigger concern, particularly with PJ, is handling a high pressure press. I feel better about Spike in these situations, given what I recall of his ball handling, but I question if Carsen is ready to be the primary ball handler in such situations. He may actually be more helpful playing the 2 guard in such situations. I can imagine a line-up of Spike, CE, Matthias, VE, and Swanigan having success against pressure.
 
  • Like
Reactions: nagemj02
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

boilerzz

Purdue 7th in CBS Sports ranking of 101 teams

Replies
7
Views
2K
Boilermaker Men's Basketball
POTFHBTFU
P
boilerzz

Purdue snippet from The Athletic

Replies
52
Views
6K
Boilermaker Men's Basketball
Schmedly_Whiplash
S
typeviic

Jacksonville

Replies
3
Views
744
Boilermaker Men's Basketball
Gman544
G
Do Dah Day

Chad Austin - The DAGGER

Replies
4
Views
1K
Boilermaker Men's Basketball
Cleanface
Cleanface
Chi-Boiler

From ESPN's season preview

Replies
10
Views
1K
Boilermaker Men's Basketball
DwaynePurvis00
DwaynePurvis00
ADVERTISEMENT

Latest posts

ADVERTISEMENT
Top Bottom
Back