Chadwell doesn`t have the experience that Spack has so I disagree that he is a better coach.Except for Leach Spack has more coaching experience than any that you named.
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If he was that great, and we didn't pay our coordinators worth a damn, someone would have poached him for more money. That never happened...
No, you're wrong. Wisconsin offered him their DC spot in 06, I believe it was, to replace Bielema after he took over for Alvarez. It was widely known that Alvarez thought Spack had been the best DC in the B1G for years, especially at doing more with less. But Spack turned them down when PU countered, even though PU countered at way less than Wisky offered, because Spack was told by MB that he was the heir apparent to Tiller. And Tiller clearly wanted Spack to be his successor because he thought Spack was the most qualified guy in his coaching tree.
The biggest mistake Spack ever made in his coaching career was turning down Wisky. Had he gone in 2006, all us dumb PU fans would have blamed the program's stagnation at the end of the Tiller era on the absence of Spack, and he would have been welcomed back by PU in 2009 as the savior. Instead, he got thrown out with the bath water. That was PU's loss -- time to fix it.
Do you actually think the DC and Asst. HC doesn't know his own team's offense? In Tiller's book, he mentions that his version of the "basketball on grass" offense was developed through "war-gaming" it against Spack.
Tell him hi at thanksgiving for us. He's not what we need sorry. Don't give a damn about the supposed Wisconsin thing, never happened. Not like he has been a hot commodity lately.
Funny!
I don't know him other than speaking with him a few times at JPC meetings.
Are you suggesting the Wisky offer never happened? Then you'd be wrong again. That whole dance is public knowledge and was covered closely by GBI at that time.
As for what we need, thankfully, it's not your call to decide.
No I'm saying I don't care because he didn't take that job. Fact is he never left Purdue, defenses got worse the longer he was here, and he hasn't sniffed a P-5 job since. Like I said not really a hot commodity. Wouldn't do squat for the team or fans.
Wow, so one has to be a "hot commodity" to make your cut, sorta like DH2 was a few years back? What you really mean is that you haven't heard Spack's name on espn multiple times in the last few weeks.
Quit grasping. You read and interpret what you want. What I am saying and read this next part slowly... If he was such a great coach, like you claim, he would have offers coming in from schools similar to us. He hasn't and he won't. There's a reason he is at the FCS level. If he was what you want him to be he'd have another opportunity at the FBS level already, because he has won games at ISU. There's a reason he hasn't been given that chance. Outside of Urban or Sabban, and a few others very few are mentioned on ESPN often so your reaching is laughable. He's done well at Illinois State, nothing against the man. You think he'd be great here as the head coach, I don't. Nothing more to it.
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Grasping?
So in your world, all human capital is in equilibrium, everyone is employed where they deserve, no one's career gets sidetracked by uncontrollable circumstances (i.e., nothing is path dependent), and there are no undervalued assets. I think it's safe to say that you wouldn't have hired Joe Tiller, either. Like Morgan, you probably would have gone for the big name first, Bob Dave, wasn't it, or maybe Glen Mason?
You're impossible. This is hilarious, I can't go back and forth with you because clearly you have issue with me saying we have differing opinions on him being a good fit. Or maybe I'll just agree with you Spack for HC 2017. Make Purdue coaches have a Mustache again!
No, I don't have an issue with you having a different opinion -- I'm just saying the basis for your opinion, as you've explained, makes no sense to me, or maybe I should say it suggests to me that you just want to hire a guy whose name pops up a lot on ESPN.
Because you've twisted every word to fit your agenda of Spack 17! More power to you, if that's your guy that's your guy. He's just far from the direction I think we should go. Is that okay sir? I'll number my reasons for you
1. His defenses got worse the longer he coached here.
2. I don't think he could recruit at a level we need to rebuild our roster.
3. There's a reason he hasn't been given another opportunity at a high level such as P-5. What that is I couldnt tell you.
4. He would do very little to excite the fanbase, as a large majority wanted to see him go because his defenses underperformed late in his time here.
5. Our program is in shambles and a Brock Spack hire would do nothing to rejuvinate it, again my opinion.
6. I believe he would have very similar results to Danny Hope, again personal opinion, but I'd rather go for something greater.
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No, I get it. You don't want to hire Spack because that wouldn't be a "hot commodity" hire that would impress everyone on ESPN, like hiring DH2 was impressive (somewhat) 3 years ago. I was just suggesting that your reasoning is flawed, but you're certainly entitled to your opinions.
Jesus I couldn't care less about freaking ESPN. It's like talking to a wall. I'll see y'all at the game Saturday, need a break from this place.
ESPN TAKEAWAY:
Illinois State: The Redbirds suffered a 37-3 loss in their previous visit to Ryan Field in 2010. That was coach Brock Spack's second season and Saturday's result shows how far the program has come since then. With Kolbe and Warrum leading a high-powered offensive attack, the Redbirds should again be one of the better teams in FCS.
Open minded, huh?
No matter, I wasn't posting it for you -- we've established that your opinion isn't a product of substance.
But I see several others here on the board -- in other threads -- were impressed by the Redbirds today, and recognize that what Spack has done at ILL State shouldn't be dismissed so flippantly.
You copied my post how is that not posting it for me. Move on. I said nothing wrong and you toss insults on a message board, whatever makes you feel good friend. I've never once bad mouthed him. Said I appreciate what he did while he was here, and he's done well at ISU. That doesn't mean I have to want him, it's perfectly okay that someone doesn't feel the same way you do.
It's a thread. Threads build on previous posts. That doesn't mean subsequent posts are intended only for the author of the post one replies to.
I mean it's not required to copy someone's. It's one of many features. This is pointless, move on. Head over to ESPNU and watch Etling likely kill it, and make all of our stumachs churn with disappointment that DH2 ruins QB's.
Sumlin isnt going anywhere...especially to Purdue. Timing is totally out of kilter with our immediate situation.
Fleck is starting to impress me...although I'm not sure I could do another white sleeves jacket coach...lol
34-10 in the 4th. And he shows emotion/excitement on the sideline. We haven't seen any emotion in 4 seasons.
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