It is obvious. I doubt it was stated as such in the written contract though. Why would they leave a paper trail?
I'm sure they have attempted to do that. However, if that is not how Pack and his agent, family, etc. take it, a whole can of worms is opened. That is what courts are for. This NIL thing is going to be very messy and is far from a done deal for anyone. This is just the start of a steady spiral downward for major sports. We haven't seen anything yet.
Agree that it's just the start, but I don't see college sports becoming irrelevant. There will be programs that don't jump on board with the new rules and they will become irrelevant, but there will also be programs that are not historically relevant that will take advantage of the new rules.
No chance Pack’s agent would agree to language like that. Wouldn’t be an agent very long if he did.
He might if the next closest offer was $200k per year below what that offer was. These guys aren't dumb. They aren't going to do something so obviously traceable that would make the player ineligible. Whatever the terms of the contract are, you can assume it's within the rules, so should the NCAA request and receive the document there would be no means to punish the athlete. That could be loopholes, verbal agreements, ect. There is never going to be any wrongdoing found within that deal though. That's the entire point of this discussion.
The entire deal is illegal. NIL can’t be used for recruitment, and boosters can’t contact prospective student athletes. Assuming the contract is “within the rules” is absurd.
Stipulating that he has to play at UM isn’t necessarily a violation of any NCAA rule. Stipulating that he was offered the deal as an inducement to attend Miami would be a violation, but that’s not a contractual issue, per se (even if that’s how it occurred). And I highly doubt the deal can be unilaterally terminated for any reason (by either party). There are always conditions by which contracts can be terminated, and they exist for the benefit of both parties. Little doubt these deals reflect a number of conditions / provisions specific to whatever the parties mutually agree to. But unilateral cancellation? Not a chance, unless one or both of the lawyers wants to be sued for malpractice.
There’s nothing illegal here, at least in terms of NCAA rules, provided that NIL wasn’t used as an inducement to attend UM. It likely was, of course, but there will be plenty of plausible deniability to ensure eligibility isn’t threatened. There’s no chance the NCAA tries to impede this now. They created this mess.
It will never be found against the rules by the NCAA. They would have planned for that. If you are hoping the NCAA is going to crackdown on this, I fear you are mistaken.
You are making my point. Neither Pack and his agent, nor Ruiz, are the least bit concerned about the NCAA finding out that the contract breaks NCAA rules.
Why wouldn’t they be concerned? Ruiz is a huge Miami fan. Why would he want them on probation or forfeiting wins? Why would he want his 800k player to be sidelined? Why would Pack’s agent want his player sidelined? He isn’t going to make the NBA not playing.
Nick Bosa for OSU stopped playing mid season 2018 (albeit injury). Ironically, Purdue pounded them a week or two later to ruin their National Championship run.
No, wrong. Hate Socialism. Trying to level the runaway train of a few $EC and CA schools from hoarding the talent and National Championships.
That opinion is likely to be true, but that’s far different than what you said originally. Players will continue to sit out bowl games and regular season games out of fear of getting hurt before the draft. They aren’t going to sit out demanding more money.
Are you talking football or basketball? SEC and CA schools aren’t going to dominate basketball.
The point is there’s nothing that shows it is illegal or breaks NCAA rules.
Both. Money talks and tradition walks. Who cares what the tradition is? I'm signing for $800k and a car. Hell, I would too. Back to square one in a full circular reference. 50-75% may be successful saving away for the future.
If that’s the choices they want to make, they will have to live with the consequences. A couple bad apples shouldn’t make it so no college athlete should be able to earn money off their NIL. That’s illogical.
I can agree to your first paragraph for the most part. I can see if it is important to the sponsor of the athlete for NIL for them to be playing in BCS or Natl Championship, they could easily be asked to pony up to play or else the athlete will sit.
I’m on the side of coming up with ways to pay players as much as possible to come to Purdue in order for us to remain competitive.
Yet. You think the people that put up the money won't want to see a return on their investment? It's only a matter of time before it happens.
The businessmen putting up money understand some investments don’t work out.
I love Purdue sports as well. It has been a very large part of my adult life for 35+ years. A chance for a good friend/alumnus to reunite once each Fall at a football game. My 22 yr son loves Purdue basketball. He is going to graduate from Concordia University Wisconsin in 2 weeks, and he and I talk about Purdue basketball regularly & also attend 1 football game each fall.
We already know they are already breaking one or two NCAA rules, why not break a few more in a contract that the NCAA will never see?
Good point. Top players are recruited to out-of-state prep schools with "scholarships", the promise of playing on ESPN, and access to the nation's top college coaches.
