Our next Coach should be...

[goodboiler]

Fleck

Just a winner,,, He would be a great choice, and he has done it at WM a program that had a couple down years before he got there and now he's rolling. Great Recruiter and message that young men flock to. He has out recruited us every year he has been there and I'm sure he could elevate our recruiting efforts competing in the Big Ten. Staff has been with him for the journey too so he has to be doing something to keep them all around which help in recruiting and coaching cohesiveness. Sign me up for him today. Wonder if he would come to Purdue!!

 

[Bullwhip Griffith]

Fleck

Just a winner,,, He would be a great choice, and he has done it at WM a program that had a couple down years before he got there and now he's rolling. Great Recruiter and message that young men flock to. He has out recruited us every year he has been there and I'm sure he could elevate our recruiting efforts competing in the Big Ten. Staff has been with him for the journey too so he has to be doing something to keep them all around which help in recruiting and coaching cohesiveness. Sign me up for him today. Wonder if he would come to Purdue!!

I disagree on a few points:
-0-1 versus Hazell
-Recruits a lot of speed, not a lot of bulk...that's what doomed Hope.
-Purdue would only be a short stop if he had success
-He got beat by Hazell

 

[SIBoiler2]

Somebody that can actually coach at the B1G level and not just look like he's auditioning for a model spot in a mensware magazine.

 

[Travisty13]

Fleck

Just a winner,,, He would be a great choice, and he has done it at WM a program that had a couple down years before he got there and now he's rolling. Great Recruiter and message that young men flock to. He has out recruited us every year he has been there and I'm sure he could elevate our recruiting efforts competing in the Big Ten. Staff has been with him for the journey too so he has to be doing something to keep them all around which help in recruiting and coaching cohesiveness. Sign me up for him today. Wonder if he would come to Purdue!!

"Just a winner", that has a 17-21 career record, in the MAC conference, including 0-1 vs Hazell.

I don't understand the Fleck love. 0 conference championships. 1 west division championship that WMU shared with NIU, Toledo, and Central Michigan.

 

[goodboiler]

I disagree on a few points:
-0-1 versus Hazell
-Recruits a lot of speed, not a lot of bulk...that's what doomed Hope.
-Purdue would only be a short stop if he had success
-He got beat by Hazell

Versus DH doesn't mean much here - That was DH's only winning season he has ever had Head coaching. Fleck has done nothing but get better in his 3 years at Western with his 4th and best team coming up this year.
Not quite sure bulk vs wins means but there line is as large as if not bigger then our this year. Both tackles over 325,Guards average over 300. thats a nice size line.
Well the short stop of winning and getting our program on track is beth then staying where we are. Make it right for him and who knows how long he stays.
Don't forget his job is to put people in the seats too which is vital to a schools football program he is beginning to turn there program into a must see during his 3 year tenure. The attendance has increased by 34% during his tenure. Boy i wish we could say the same, that would make a AD's job a lot easier and the fans game day experience a lot more fun Bring him on I say bring him on!!!

 

[buygreekbonds]

Versus DH doesn't mean much here - That was DH's only winning season he has ever had Head coaching. Fleck has done nothing but get better in his 3 years at Western with his 4th and best team coming up this year.
Not quite sure bulk vs wins means but there line is as large as if not bigger then our this year. Both tackles over 325,Guards average over 300. thats a nice size line.
Well the short stop of winning and getting our program on track is beth then staying where we are. Make it right for him and who knows how long he stays.
Don't forget his job is to put people in the seats too which is vital to a schools football program he is beginning to turn there program into a must see during his 3 year tenure. The attendance has increased by 34% during his tenure. Boy i wish we could say the same, that would make a AD's job a lot easier and the fans game day experience a lot more fun Bring him on I say bring him on!!!

I flat guarantee that I can recruit guards and tackles that weigh in at 375. Or 425.

 

[goodboiler]

I flat guarantee that I can recruit guards and tackles that weigh in at 375. Or 425.

Like i said i don't know how bulk equals victories. Nuff said

 

[goodboiler]

"Just a winner", that has a 17-21 career record, in the MAC conference, including 0-1 vs Hazell.

I don't understand the Fleck love. 0 conference championships. 1 west division championship that WMU shared with NIU, Toledo, and Central Michigan.

1-11 first year, gotta start somewhere to lay foundation, bowl games next two years, west division champions in 3rd year I wish we could say the same. If DH had done what he did ......We would be very happy with our program

 

[uncleboiler]

Fleck

Just a winner,,, He would be a great choice, and he has done it at WM a program that had a couple down years before he got there and now he's rolling. Great Recruiter and message that young men flock to. He has out recruited us every year he has been there and I'm sure he could elevate our recruiting efforts competing in the Big Ten. Staff has been with him for the journey too so he has to be doing something to keep them all around which help in recruiting and coaching cohesiveness. Sign me up for him today. Wonder if he would come to Purdue!!

 

[uncleboiler]

Any coach with a pulse could win more than 6 games in 3 seasons. Purdue should hire any high school coach in Indiana and pay him a $100k a year....PU would save $millions, the HS coach would be happy with the money and he would win more games than the current overpaid clown.

 

[New Pal Boiler]

I disagree on a few points:
-0-1 versus Hazell
-Recruits a lot of speed, not a lot of bulk...that's what doomed Hope.
-Purdue would only be a short stop if he had success
-He got beat by Hazell

I think it would be great to have a head coach that other schools would like to hire .

 

[FirstDownB]

Versus DH doesn't mean much here - That was DH's only winning season he has ever had Head coaching.

http://www.purduesports.com/sports/m-footbl/recaps/083014aaa.html

 

[pu79]

Fleck

Just a winner,,, He would be a great choice, and he has done it at WM a program that had a couple down years before he got there and now he's rolling. Great Recruiter and message that young men flock to. He has out recruited us every year he has been there and I'm sure he could elevate our recruiting efforts competing in the Big Ten. Staff has been with him for the journey too so he has to be doing something to keep them all around which help in recruiting and coaching cohesiveness. Sign me up for him today. Wonder if he would come to Purdue!!

My choices would Nick Saban, Urban Meyer, or Jim Harbaugh. No perticular order really, but one of those would be my choice.

 

[JohnnyDoeBoiler]

Jon Gruden. Completely right field name but he would recruit well being that he is a well known and respected coach. Problem would be to pull him away from his tv job. He is always rumored to be considered for big jobs but maybe he wants to build something at a place like Purdue. His personality would totally fit in at Purdue as he is a hard nosed and no BS type of coach. It would be a home run hire but I would put it at 0.0001% chance.

 

[New Pal Boiler]

Jon Gruden. Completely right field name but he would recruit well being that he is a well known and respected coach. Problem would be to pull him away from his tv job. He is always rumored to be considered for big jobs but maybe he wants to build something at a place like Purdue. His personality would totally fit in at Purdue as he is a hard nosed and no BS type of coach. It would be a home run hire but I would put it at 0.0001% chance.

that's a bit high. He's turned down USC, the U, Texas, and Tennesee, and he's going to come here...Yeah...no.

 

[pboiler18]

Jon Gruden. Completely right field name but he would recruit well being that he is a well known and respected coach. Problem would be to pull him away from his tv job. He is always rumored to be considered for big jobs but maybe he wants to build something at a place like Purdue. His personality would totally fit in at Purdue as he is a hard nosed and no BS type of coach. It would be a home run hire but I would put it at 0.0001% chance.

This isn't out of right field at all. Every alumni base with an opening wants and mentions him. He's been the fan favorite to fill any and every open NFL or CFB job for the past 6 years.

It would NEVER happen. Never. Ever.

To even think it suggests you don't know shit about football and how the business works.

 

[BoilerBiker]

This isn't out of right field at all. Every alumni base with an opening wants and mentions him. He's been the fan favorite to fill any and every open NFL or CFB job for the past 6 years.

It would NEVER happen. Never. Ever.

To even think it suggests you don't know shit about football and how the business works.

it is pretty crazy just from a money standpoint,
at espn he already makes more than all college coaches but 2, and all pro coaches but 6.

 

[JohnnyDoeBoiler]

This isn't out of right field at all. Every alumni base with an opening wants and mentions him. He's been the fan favorite to fill any and every open NFL or CFB job for the past 6 years.

It would NEVER happen. Never. Ever.

To even think it suggests you don't know shit about football and how the business works.

If you have followed any of my previous posts, you know I understand how the business works. I have been as realistic with the list of potential hires from the time it was clear Hazell wasn't cutting it. Bob Stit, Brock Spack, or a long shot at Tom Herman if the money was right. Add in Art Briles because of his firing, those are my four realistic candidates that I think would be home run hires. Obviously Gruden would never come to Purdue but in terms of hitting a grandslam...this would be it.

 

[JohnnyDoeBoiler]

This isn't out of right field at all. Every alumni base with an opening wants and mentions him. He's been the fan favorite to fill any and every open NFL or CFB job for the past 6 years.

It would NEVER happen. Never. Ever.

To even think it suggests you don't know shit about football and how the business works.

Also, read the last sentence of my post where I put the chances at getting Gruden at around .00001%.

 

[SIBoiler2]

This isn't out of right field at all. Every alumni base with an opening wants and mentions him. He's been the fan favorite to fill any and every open NFL or CFB job for the past 6 years.

It would NEVER happen. Never. Ever.

To even think it suggests you don't know shit about football and how the business works.

So the guy rights a TIC post and you need to make the statement in the last sentence. Classy guy. Shows you don't know shit about how to relate to others.

 

[pboiler18]

So the guy rights a TIC post and you need to make the statement in the last sentence. Classy guy. Shows you don't know shit about how to relate to others.

He also thinks we could get Herman. He's just not grounded in fact.

 

[pboiler18]

Also, read the last sentence of my post where I put the chances at getting Gruden at around .00001%.

The chances Gruden would be a head coach again are about that. We'd be about #70 on the list of options if he were to do it. WILL NEVER HAPPEN. I'd legitimately put any sum of money on it.

 

[New Pal Boiler]

The chances Gruden would be a head coach again are about that. We'd be about #70 on the list of options if he were to do it. WILL NEVER HAPPEN. I'd legitimately put any sum of money on it.

So you're telling me there's a chance!

 

[PaBoiler78]

So you're telling me there's a chance!

Sumlin , and as a 2nd choice Mark Hudspeth w/ Tim DeRuyter as the D Coordinator { pending he gets fired}

 

[JohnnyDoeBoiler]

He also thinks we could get Herman. He's just not grounded in fact.

I'll include my portion about Herman since you clearly didn't read it:

'or a long shot at Tom Herman if the money was right.'

Again, I didn't say we could get Herman rather I said it was a long shot if the money was right. That would require a massive influx of different visions with the new AD in a rather short amount of time. You would be talking in the ballpark of $3.5-$4 million in salary per year with a potential guaranteed contract for 6 years. That would immediately get 95% of college coaches attention, at least the attention of their agent.

And to say my argument has to be grounded in fact, at this point, is slightly ridiculous. It's called 'speculation' and if you need me to define it for you I will. There literally is a 0.0% chance (there I go again using numbers and percentages) any one has any idea on what the facts are about a coaching change at this point. That is why it is called 'speculation.'

And if you were wondering:

'Speculation is the forming of a theory or conjecture without firm evidence.'

 

[pboiler18]

I'll include my portion about Herman since you clearly didn't read it:

'or a long shot at Tom Herman if the money was right.'

Again, I didn't say we could get Herman rather I said it was a long shot if the money was right. That would require a massive influx of different visions with the new AD in a rather short amount of time. You would be talking in the ballpark of $3.5-$4 million in salary per year with a potential guaranteed contract for 6 years. That would immediately get 95% of college coaches attention, at least the attention of their agent.

And to say my argument has to be grounded in fact, at this point, is slightly ridiculous. It's called 'speculation' and if you need me to define it for you I will. There literally is a 0.0% chance (there I go again using numbers and percentages) any one has any idea on what the facts are about a coaching change at this point. That is why it is called 'speculation.'

And if you were wondering:

'Speculation is the forming of a theory or conjecture without firm evidence.'

Herman already makes $3mil at Houston. You think 500k would entice him to come to the football hotbed of Indiana? Especially when he'll have the pick of any job in the country most likely?

You said there was a chance. There is NONE

 

[buygreekbonds]

Herman already makes $3mil at Houston. You think 500k would entice him to come to the football hotbed of Indiana? Especially when he'll have the pick of any job in the country most likely?

You said there was a chance. There is NONE

Hopefully we no longer have that misery mentality in the athletic dept at Purdue. We need to go beyond $3.5 and lay down $4-6 million for someone who will get us out of this mess. New Pres, new AD and barring a miracle, a new football coach come December. Don't make predictions based upon past administrations that are no longer in place.

 

[BoilerBiker]

Hopefully we no longer have that misery mentality in the athletic dept at Purdue. We need to go beyond $3.5 and lay down $4-6 million for someone who will get us out of this mess. New Pres, new AD and barring a miracle, a new football coach come December. Don't make predictions based upon past administrations that are no longer in place.

has there been changes to the BOT?

 

[pboiler18]

Hopefully we no longer have that misery mentality in the athletic dept at Purdue. We need to go beyond $3.5 and lay down $4-6 million for someone who will get us out of this mess. New Pres, new AD and barring a miracle, a new football coach come December. Don't make predictions based upon past administrations that are no longer in place.

Again...you're putting the cart before the horse. Offering $4-$6mil to a coach is nice but we are unlikely to attract a coach that would demand this sum of money. And then the 2nd part...why pay a coach $4mil when you can get him for $3mil? Just because we have the $$$ doesn't mean we can attract an elite level coach.

You don't think Texas can offer that money and much, much more? LSU? There's more than just a cheap ex-AD working against Purdue here.

 

[goodboiler]

It's about getting the right coach for the money. We bought in the right coach when Jim Young came here then Tiller. Hiring the right person is the key, spending a bunch of dough for a name coach is not. A good AD will find the right coach for our situation and hire him and let him develop our football program once again. Thats what Young and Tiller did. No retreads please give us the coach that will be a great x and o guy and be able to put a great staff together. That will then take care of recruiting and start our winning tradition once again.

 

[70boiler]

...hired very soon.

 

[buygreekbonds]

Again...you're putting the cart before the horse. Offering $4-$6mil to a coach is nice but we are unlikely to attract a coach that would demand this sum of money. And then the 2nd part...why pay a coach $4mil when you can get him for $3mil? Just because we have the $$$ doesn't mean we can attract an elite level coach.

You don't think Texas can offer that money and much, much more? LSU? There's more than just a cheap ex-AD working against Purdue here.

Your response is duplicitous. One one side of your mouth you're saying Purdue won't lay out the big bucks for a top coach, then you turn around and say it won't matter if Purdue does lay out top dollar because we won't attract one anyway.. So why don't you tell us what Purdue should do?

 

[pb1941]

It's about getting the right coach for the money. We bought in the right coach when Jim Young came here then Tiller. Hiring the right person is the key, spending a bunch of dough for a name coach is not. A good AD will find the right coach for our situation and hire him and let him develop our football program once again. Thats what Young and Tiller did. No retreads please give us the coach that will be a great x and o guy and be able to put a great staff together. That will then take care of recruiting and start our winning tradition once again.

No big time coach wants the mess that Hazell has brought to Purdue. A good coach that that knows football and recruits the Midwest is what Purdue needs. Hire Brock Spack,he bleeds black and gold.

 

[pboiler18]

Your response is duplicitous. One one side of your mouth you're saying Purdue won't lay out the big bucks for a top coach, then you turn around and say it won't matter if Purdue does lay out top dollar because we won't attract one anyway.. So why don't you tell us what Purdue should do?

Hire P.J. Fleck, Kevin Sumlin, Greg Schiano or Art Briles.

What we should do is hire the best coach we can attract. That said, why ever offer $6mil for a coach that only deserves $3mil?

I think you think that we could offer $$$$ and a guy would walk away from a good situation to chase the money. I don't want that guy who is chasing the money. Not at all. A smart coach will look into the entirety of the situation before accepting an offer, and while I have no doubts we COULD afford a great coach I think the #1 issue is looking attractive to a big time coach. We might throw more money at somebody but why take a job for $4million that you might be cut from in 3 years vs. a job that pays $3mil that you can stay at forever? Is that extra $1mil a year worth not having career security? For us it probably is, but for a big time coach already making a ton of money its most likely not. At all. Paint Purdue however you want.....but even a good coach can come in here and fail. It's happened before and could easily happen again.

 

[Stockboiler85]

Dave Aranda. Smart, up and coming coach. I know I'm the outlier here but would rather have a defensive minded coach and hire an innovative offensive coordinator than vice versa. Much harder to play defense in to today's game so to get one of the top defensive minds would be outstanding. Not unrealistic either when you see Maryland and Rutgers hire defensive coordinators.

 

[BoilerBiker]

Rumors are growing legs

 

[TOKenBoiler]

Rumors are growing legs

 

[FirstDownB]

No big time coach wants the mess that Hazell has brought to Purdue. A good coach that that knows football and recruits the Midwest is what Purdue needs. Hire Brock Spack,he bleeds black and gold.

Spack isn't at the top of my short list, but he could probably get us back to 6 wins and a pizza bowl. And his defenses usually at least had a few guys who weren't shy about initiating contact.

 

[New Pal Boiler]

Fleck

Just a winner,,, He would be a great choice, and he has done it at WM a program that had a couple down years before he got there and now he's rolling. Great Recruiter and message that young men flock to. He has out recruited us every year he has been there and I'm sure he could elevate our recruiting efforts competing in the Big Ten. Staff has been with him for the journey too so he has to be doing something to keep them all around which help in recruiting and coaching cohesiveness. Sign me up for him today. Wonder if he would come to Purdue!!

Jeff Brohm

 

[OhioBoiler3]

You can tell just how bad things are, when Brock Spack is legitimately who people want as the next coach. His defenses got worse as time went on, and people hated him on here for a long time. No thank you.