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Our 2018 recruiting class is ranked # 100, right behind UMass

So, in 4 days since OP Brohm received 3 commits, rose ~30 spots in the rankings, and demonstrated he has already opened doors to regional recruiting hot spots that were closed in recent years. Too early to panic = confirmed.
Seriously, were now represented in this class by:
Chicago
Louisville
Cincy
Indianapolis
Phoenix

Exactly what they said they were going to be doing. I expect a handful of Georgia coming
 
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So what do you want me to say? Right now we're # 67, behind La Tech and Toledo. That's about where we ended up every year with Haze.

I would love to see us end up with a top 25 recruiting class and at least upper half in the B1G. Right now, we are not there.

I'd love to see us #1 in the country.
 
So what do you want me to say? Right now we're # 67, behind La Tech and Toledo. That's about where we ended up every year with Haze.

I would love to see us end up with a top 25 recruiting class and at least upper half in the B1G. We are not yet there.

Top 25 after the worst stretch in purdue football history? Yeahhhh it'll take some time to get there lol.
 
So what do you want me to say? Right now we're # 67, behind La Tech and Toledo. That's about where we ended up every year with Haze.

I would love to see us end up with a top 25 recruiting class and at least upper half in the B1G. We are not yet there.
But we are only 4 behind Alabama.......That is some pretty tall cotton!
 
You should probably go to sleep then if you are so tired. Probably why you are such a grouch and Debby downer on here.

I was being positive ! You don't really want to read my negative thoughts, or my real opinions.
 
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It hasn't happened since 2004. Expecting it now is laughable


I have witnessed many teams come out of nowhere with a worse record and worse facilities, and worse football culture have a top 25 recruiting class. All it takes is one elite player to commit and attract his friends

You guys call my posts depressing, and a bebbie downer. Perhaps you should review your own depressing posts saying a top 25 class will never happen, and a great year will be 4 wins. You say we need to be realistic, then you cut me down for being realistic. this team is not going to be successful without a successful recruiting class.

To me being # 50 is the breaking point. Being under, we should have a winning team. being over it, we will continue to lose. I expect Brohm to out recruit IU and Minn. if he doesn't , we need to seriously evaluate what is wrong with Purdue football and our recruiting philosophy.
 
I have witnessed many teams come out of nowhere with a worse record and worse facilities, and worse football culture have a top 25 recruiting class. All it takes is one elite player to commit and attract his friends

You guys call my posts depressing, and a bebbie downer. Perhaps you should review your own depressing posts saying a top 25 class will never happen, and a great year will be 4 wins. You say we need to be realistic, then you cut me down for being realistic. this team is not going to be successful without a successful recruiting class.

To me being # 50 is the breaking point. Being under, we should have a winning team. being over it, we will continue to lose. I expect Brohm to out recruit IU and Minn. if he doesn't , we need to seriously evaluate what is wrong with Purdue football and our recruiting philosophy.

And programs line that usually are found to be cheating or turning a blind eye to some horrific things...see Ole Miss and their 13 Level 1 infractions and Baylor. I'd rather do things the right way at Purdue.
 
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ZZZZZZZ's wake me up when it's February... We have a new staff that actually knows how to recruit for their style of play so I applaud them for bring selective.

There is an early signing period in December this year so it is important...btw we are ranked #67 right now only 4 spots behind ALABAMA!
 
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I have witnessed many teams come out of nowhere with a worse record and worse facilities, and worse football culture have a top 25 recruiting class. All it takes is one elite player to commit and attract his friends

You guys call my posts depressing, and a bebbie downer. Perhaps you should review your own depressing posts saying a top 25 class will never happen, and a great year will be 4 wins. You say we need to be realistic, then you cut me down for being realistic. this team is not going to be successful without a successful recruiting class.

To me being # 50 is the breaking point. Being under, we should have a winning team. being over it, we will continue to lose. I expect Brohm to out recruit IU and Minn. if he doesn't , we need to seriously evaluate what is wrong with Purdue football and our recruiting philosophy.
i didnt say it cant happen. I said dont expect it to happen.

Brohm will need to show results to pull in the high end players. This rebuild (make no mistake, its a rebuild) will take 3-4 years.
 
A test for recruiting expectations:
What would be the final 2018 recruiting class rank if Urban Meyer or Nick Saban plus staff were hired to coach Purdue in December 2016?
My best guess is somewhere in the 30-40 range. Equal parts recruiting ability of coach and reality of the state of the program, if not more of the latter. If Brohm manages to reel in a top 50 class, he is a magician, and indicates he may be capable of a top 30 class down the line. That would be nirvana for Purdue football.
 
And programs line that usually are found to be cheating or turning a blind eye to some horrific things...see Ole Miss and their 13 Level 1 infractions and Baylor. I'd rather do things the right way at Purdue.


Speaking only about recruiting:

Ok, so you will agree that a couple of schools came out of nowhere and maybe cheated and broke the NCAA recruiting rules. the list is long of teams that have violated NCAA rules And it includes Purdue's name in both mens' and womens' sports. Purdue is no better or worse than the vast majority of other major schools. the other schools just receive more publicity.

Mississippi violated a bunch of recruiting rules. But in so doing, it led to wins and continued success. They probably felt the end justified the means.

Admittedly, teams have lost Bowl bids and basketball tourney appearances, and scholarship limitations. They essentially sacrificed one year for future success.

a tough question and I'm not sure what my answer would be. Given a choice of doing it the right way and going 1-11 . 2-10. 3-9. and 2-10 or going 8-4, 10-2, 12-0, 8-4 and being forced to vacate the wins from one of those 4 seasons, which route would you choose? I know the answer the majority of posters here would say. But I'm not sure the majority of fans, students and alum would feel the same way. I say this because I once worked at Auburn, and their fans believe they have very high morals, and the NCAA rules are wrong, and they are justified in breaking them.

I believe Purdue can and should be able to have a recruiting class in the top 50 this year and/ or the very near future. And we should be able to have a better class than IU, U of I, and Minn every year. top 25? Can we do it without cheating?

MSU fans probably believe Purdue violated some type of NCAA rule, or at least an unwritten rule or ethical one by stealing Swanigan. I doubt any Purdue fan sees it that way. MSU fans probably feel Purdue cheats as much as Louisville does.

it's a matter of perspective.
 
Speaking only about recruiting:

Ok, so you will agree that a couple of schools came out of nowhere and maybe cheated and broke the NCAA recruiting rules. the list is long of teams that have violated NCAA rules And it includes Purdue's name in both mens' and womens' sports. Purdue is no better or worse than the vast majority of other major schools. the other schools just receive more publicity.

Mississippi violated a bunch of recruiting rules. But in so doing, it led to wins and continued success. They probably felt the end justified the means.

Admittedly, teams have lost Bowl bids and basketball tourney appearances, and scholarship limitations. They essentially sacrificed one year for future success.

a tough question and I'm not sure what my answer would be. Given a choice of doing it the right way and going 1-11 . 2-10. 3-9. and 2-10 or going 8-4, 10-2, 12-0, 8-4 and being forced to vacate the wins from one of those 4 seasons, which route would you choose? I know the answer the majority of posters here would say. But I'm not sure the majority of fans, students and alum would feel the same way. I say this because I once worked at Auburn, and their fans believe they have very high morals, and the NCAA rules are wrong, and they are justified in breaking them.

I believe Purdue can and should be able to have a recruiting class in the top 50 this year and/ or the very near future. And we should be able to have a better class than IU, U of I, and Minn every year. top 25? Can we do it without cheating?

MSU fans probably believe Purdue violated some type of NCAA rule, or at least an unwritten rule or ethical one by stealing Swanigan. I doubt any Purdue fan sees it that way. MSU fans probably feel Purdue cheats as much as Louisville does.

it's a matter of perspective.

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I just stated facts that you either didn't know about or refuse to believe. And I asked a question.

Please don't try to tell me Purdue hasn't also violated recruiting rules. because they have. We may not want to admit it, but we are not innocent .
 
i didnt say it cant happen. I said dont expect it to happen.

Brohm will need to show results to pull in the high end players. This rebuild (make no mistake, its a rebuild) will take 3-4 years.
This is new construction. The last guy ran off with all the money after he burned the building down. No rebuild about this project.
 
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So what do you want me to say? Right now we're # 67, behind La Tech and Toledo. That's about where we ended up every year with Haze.

I would love to see us end up with a top 25 recruiting class and at least upper half in the B1G. We are not yet there.

Surely you understand, that recruiting rankings are based on two things: 1) Quality of recruits, 2) Quantity of recruits.

You were panicking, when we were ranked so low, when we only had ONE recruit. Did you expect us to be in the Top Ten with ONE recruit?

Let's let Brohm do his thing, before we start second guessing and panicking, 6 months before signing day.

He's shown us that he is capable of working hard, establishing relationships with coaches that had fallen into disrepair and has demonstrated, that he can get kids excited about his vison for the program. All the feed back that we are getting from his first recruiting class has been very, very positive. These kids are thrilled to be playing for him. Based on what we've seen so far, I feel comfortable, that JB-01 is NOT DH-03.
 
Surely you understand, that recruiting rankings are based on two things: 1) Quality of recruits, 2) Quantity of recruits.

You were panicking, when we were ranked so low, when we only had ONE recruit. Did you expect us to be in the Top Ten with ONE recruit?

Let's let Brohm do his thing, before we start second guessing and panicking, 6 months before signing day.

He's shown us that he is capable of working hard, establishing relationships with coaches that had fallen into disrepair and has demonstrated, that he can get kids excited about his vison for the program. All the feed back that we are getting from his first recruiting class has been very, very positive. These kids are thrilled to be playing for him. Based on what we've seen so far, I feel comfortable, that JB-01 is NOT DH-03.
Clueless boy, I am not "panicking". My comments were made in response to the cadre of airhead buffoons who were a'squealing that Brohm was a'gonna get this thing a'turned around and a'pronto.

Your excessive and inappropriate use of the word "panicking" is evidence that you have little understanding what is now being played out. If you wish to retain a smidgen of credibility on this forum, stifle yourself.
 
Clueless boy, I am not "panicking". My comments were made in response to the cadre of airhead buffoons who were a'squealing that Brohm was a'gonna get this thing a'turned around and a'pronto.

Your excessive and inappropriate use of the word "panicking" is evidence that you have little understanding what is now being played out. If you wish to retain a smidgen of credibility on this forum, stifle yourself.

Your retort in the original post was equally evidence of your little understanding.
 
Your retort in the original post was equally evidence of your little understanding.
Given your grammar and syntax, I am not insulted. You are an embarrassment to Purdue University. If you cannot compose a literate sentence, please stifle.

We'll see how Brohm's recruiting works out. We now have three 3-stars and three 2-stars and we all know that the latter are actually zero-stars. I sincerely hope that we end up with a group of great recruits but right now it looks a lot like Haze and Hope.
 
Given your grammar and syntax, I am not insulted. You are an embarrassment to Purdue University. If you cannot compose a literate sentence, please stifle.

We'll see how Brohm's recruiting works out. We now have three 3-stars and three 2-stars and we all know that the latter are actually zero-stars. I sincerely hope that we end up with a group of great recruits but right now it looks a lot like Haze and Hope.
Please stifle? I pissed myself. You're either saying please suffocate (which is a little messed up for a fan forum) or you need another word to finish the thought. So much for the grammar police.

Boris, my man, I fear it isn't nat tipping the embarrassment to Purdue scales...
 
Given your grammar and syntax, I am not insulted. You are an embarrassment to Purdue University. If you cannot compose a literate sentence, please stifle.

We'll see how Brohm's recruiting works out. We now have three 3-stars and three 2-stars and we all know that the latter are actually zero-stars. I sincerely hope that we end up with a group of great recruits but right now it looks a lot like Haze and Hope.

When you can't attack the message attack the messenger, Amirite? Just admit you were wrong
 
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A test for recruiting expectations:
What would be the final 2018 recruiting class rank if Urban Meyer or Nick Saban plus staff were hired to coach Purdue in December 2016?
My best guess is somewhere in the 30-40 range. Equal parts recruiting ability of coach and reality of the state of the program, if not more of the latter. If Brohm manages to reel in a top 50 class, he is a magician, and indicates he may be capable of a top 30 class down the line. That would be nirvana for Purdue football.

I'm not sure you could have said it any better. People seem to forget that Tiller's best class, even with going to New Years Day bowls regularly, was barely top 30.
 
A test for recruiting expectations:
What would be the final 2018 recruiting class rank if Urban Meyer or Nick Saban plus staff were hired to coach Purdue in December 2016?
My best guess is somewhere in the 30-40 range. Equal parts recruiting ability of coach and reality of the state of the program, if not more of the latter. If Brohm manages to reel in a top 50 class, he is a magician, and indicates he may be capable of a top 30 class down the line. That would be nirvana for Purdue football.

Wrong. If Saban or Meyer came to PU, we'd be competing for NCs in a few years. It's all about the coach.
 
I dont think they could get the same players into Purdue.

So, are you saying that regardless of who the coach is, Purdue will never compete for a NC?
Oh wait, I just realized that you're using the "Purdue is too tough academically" excuse.
 
So, are you saying that regardless of who the coach is, Purdue will never compete for a NC?
Oh wait, I just realized that you're using the "Purdue is too tough academically" excuse.

Purdue wont admit some of the kids that Saban and Meyer recruit. Painter lost recruits because Purdue wouldnt admit them. Tiller too.

Bama and OSU bend entrance requirements to help the programs. Purdue has not in the past and i doubt they would in the future.
 
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Also, Purdue will never compete for a NC in football. Look at the money being spent by Bama and OSU and compare it to what we spend. We arent in the same league.
 
Purdue wont admit some of the kids that Saban and Meyer recruit. Painter lost recruits because Purdue wouldnt admit them. Tiller too.

Bama and OSU bend entrance requirements to help the programs. Purdue has not in the past and i doubt they would in the future.

Name a player who wanted to come to PU that PU wouldn't let them in? Glenn Robinson?
If the kid is a top athlete and can help the program, they'll find a way to get him in. Quit acting like PU is academically special, it isn't.
 
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