You do realize that the exact same xenophobic arguments she is making were made by racists in previous generations about multiple different immigrant populations (Irish, Italian, Chinese, etc.) including those of different religious affiliations (Catholic, Jewish, etc.). Using one of the most powerful beacons in the U.S. to spread coded racist messaging is, at the very least, reprehensible, regardless of the personal decisions you've made in your life. She knows exactly what she's doing and it is disgusting. Stop enabling her.
OT - Matt Light on Laura Ingraham this eve. (9/11)*
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You do realize that the exact same xenophobic arguments she is making were made by racists in previous generations about multiple different immigrant populations (Irish, Italian, Chinese, etc.) including those of different religious affiliations (Catholic, Jewish, etc.). Using one of the most powerful beacons in the U.S. to spread coded racist messaging is, at the very least, reprehensible, regardless of the personal decisions you've made in your life. She knows exactly what she's doing and it is disgusting. Stop enabling her.
Do you even know what NAZI stands for?
National SOCIALIST Germans Workers Party
Do you even know what the difference between a Nazi and a communist is? There isn't any
Both Nazi and communist parties are a vehicle for dictators to get the people to believe in them and it is about the people. In reality, it is about an indivdual to dictate. So, there has never been a true nazi or communist state.
It was all BS to create a dictatorship for the individual that wanted to rule. Otherwise, in a true Socialist or communist state, you wouldn't know who the true leader was because "the people" or committee would be running the country.
Another thing....If the leader of your country wears a military uniform....it probably isn't a good sign. vbg
Absolute tolerance of every opinion is a childish political stance and a weak caricature of people with even remotely left of center beliefs. Intolerance of bigots is the ethical obligation of any decent person.
No, I will not have an open mind to racist fearmingering, and I have nothing but contempt for those that do.
What if the leader of your country smiles and fistpumps at 9-11 memorials and touts his Puerto Rico response - all in the same day?
There has never been an American President Democrat or Republican that can even come close to anything I said. But hey, everyone is entitled to their opinion and that is a very good thing. Cause the situations that I was talking about: You have no opinion!
And China is a republic! It's right there in the name People's Republic of China. And North Korea is a Democracy, again right there in the title.
Nazi's weren't socialist. Some of the first groups they targeted as enemies were Socialists and Communists (which aren't the same).
The Nazis were fascists. Indisputably. They drew their ideology from Italy's fascists, who arose in reaction to the Left.
So everyone who sees this different from you is a racist, right? The issue is assimilation. The immigrants here to assimilate into the larger American culture, regardless of race, religion, or national origin, are not who she's talking about. The Irish Catholics probably faced more discrimination than any group you mentioned, but by WWII they were largely assimilated -- because they wanted to -- and by 1960, an Irish Catholic was elected President. She's talking about the lack of assimilation and the resistance to it - and the problem this represents for the culture.
You beat me too it, I was just going to make the same comment about MSNBC and CNN consumers.
Did I say anything about China or North Korea? But, both were formed after WW2 and they wanted the world to think about them differently than who they really were....and both dictatorships.
Nazis were socialist first on the way to a dictatorship. Just a vehicle like I said before.
Fascists is just a fancy term for dictatorship. it wouldn't have mattered if Stalin was far left or far right or even a capitalist. It was about power and Hitler wanted it all
By you stating that one is right and the other is left, What is the difference between Hitler and Stalin?
Don't give ne some BS ideology and terminology Tell me how they ruled and what they did?
They were one in the same!!
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I would put the Irish Catholics and the Italian Catholics in the same boat back then.
She's an obvious token. Added because they've been called out on it for the past decade.
First of all, I enjoyed her conversation with Matt Light. He made some very good points. Secondly whether it is Fox, CNN, MSNBC, etc., they all have opinion shows on during prime time, so don’t be surprised that you get what you see. I wish both sides would stop calling each other names and talk more about the reasons behind their messages.
She has been there longer than 10 years and isn’t a token. IMO she is light years better than Sheppard Smith
Nazism was a racist variation on Italian Fascism. Italian Fascism was not inherently racist and, yes, it arose as an alternative to International Socialism (i.e., Communism). The main differences were that Fascism allowed means of production to remain under private ownership, it was nationalistic, it did not discourage religion, and it did not attempt to enforce equity across classes, although it emphasized empowering the working class and stripping power from the business class. Also, as in the Communist model, Fascism transferred control of the means of production to the state, and the state used central planning to manage the economy and many other aspects of society. So Facism definitely was a form of socialism and no serious student of the subject disputes that. In fact, in the 1930s, Facism was viewed by many, including many in the U.S., as a practical means of achieving most of the "desirable" ideals of Soviet Communism.
The insistence of "assimilation" is racist on its face. Requiring certain ethnic/religious groups to adhere to certain cultural norms is not "freedom." To pretend that it is "American" to assimilate is a gross bastardization of history. People have come to this country for centuries now to seek freedom in many forms - many of which are celebration/expression of their culture/religion than a disposal of it. Pretending that you're not welcome here unless you meet some pre-determined American culture checklist is just racists putting up road blocks to the influx of immigration of people they don't like. It has existed since this country began and we should shout it down every time it turns its ugly head. If you want to live in a country that dictates culture to its residents then, well, the USA ain't it.
Only finding that theory on partisan sites . Socialism and Fascism are on opposite sides of the ideological continuum
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_Fascism
Italian Fascism promoted a corporatist economic system whereby employer and employee syndicates are linked together in associations to collectively represent the nation's economic producers and work alongside the state to set national economic policy.[4] This economic system intended to resolve class conflict through collaboration between the classes.[5]
Italian Fascism opposed liberalism, especially classical liberalism that Mussolini and Fascist leaders denounced as "the debacle of individualism",[6] but rather than seeking a reactionary restoration of the pre-French Revolutionary world, which it considered to have been flawed, it had a forward-looking direction.[7] It was opposed to Marxist socialism because of its typical opposition to nationalism,[8] but was also opposed to the reactionary conservatism developed by Joseph de Maistre.[9] It believed the success of Italian nationalism required respect for tradition and a clear sense of a shared past among the Italian people, alongside a commitment to a modernised Italy.[10]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_Fascism
Italian Fascism promoted a corporatist economic system whereby employer and employee syndicates are linked together in associations to collectively represent the nation's economic producers and work alongside the state to set national economic policy.[4] This economic system intended to resolve class conflict through collaboration between the classes.[5]
Italian Fascism opposed liberalism, especially classical liberalism that Mussolini and Fascist leaders denounced as "the debacle of individualism",[6] but rather than seeking a reactionary restoration of the pre-French Revolutionary world, which it considered to have been flawed, it had a forward-looking direction.[7] It was opposed to Marxist socialism because of its typical opposition to nationalism,[8] but was also opposed to the reactionary conservatism developed by Joseph de Maistre.[9] It believed the success of Italian nationalism required respect for tradition and a clear sense of a shared past among the Italian people, alongside a commitment to a modernised Italy.[10]
Good point -- my grandfather said the Anglicans assumed that all Irish Catholics were drunks and all Italian Catholics were thieves, and the only way for one to escape that sterotype was to get a chance to prove oneself otherwise. He also said most of the ads for good jobs in the Chicago papers of the 1920s and 30s, when he was young, ended with 4 letters, INNA, for Irish Need Not Apply.
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Okay, so now were down to the "nut" of it: assimilation = racism. That's what I thought you'd say next. Congratulations, you've been well indoctrinated. And I'm sure you don't even know it. Let me guess, you read Howard Zinn's A People's History of the U.S. as your high school, or college, history text. I recommend you read some Paul Johnson as a partial antidote, but it will take time.
I'm done debating chanting ideologues like you on football boards.
Remember when white people “discovered” America and quickly assimilated? Neither do I
The political spectrum depicting Fascism on the far right has been pushed largely by the Left since WWII to create the impression of a false association between Conservatism and Fascism. It is really a spectrum limited to authoritarian forms of government.
As I said above, there are considerable differences between the Communism and Fascism, so they will separate on a spectrum. But there's no way you can find a place for Classical Liberalism on a spectrum that has Communism on one side and Facism on the other given they're both authoritarian and neither places much value on individual rights.
I agree that business interests pushed Fascism as an alternative to Communism. But they did this viewing Fascism as the lesser of two evils, from their perspective, since it would not strip them of ownership although it would strip them of strategic control. Both Communism and Fascism are still forms of Socialism, regardless.
If you ever told the truth, your head would explode. You almost told the truth, then you had to add the last part of that sentence to push your racist agenda. You have less than zero credibility.
Says the guy, who finds racism everywhere, even when it doesn't exist. If you stood in front of mirror long enough, you'd convince yourself that there was a racist staring back at you. You have some serious issues...
Nobody owns American culture and thus nobody gets to police it. The beauty of America, in case you missed it, is that it is an amalgamation of a bunch of cultures, ever changing and evolving. The food you eat, the clothes you wear, the words you say, the type of house you live in, the games you play, the sports you watch - all of it - are inclusive, if not 100% borrowed from, of imported cultures. So Ingrahm and those who agree with her don't get to write the test of American culture. There should never be one and floating it as a possibility is doing nothing but recalling the ugliest parts of our racist history.
That sounds like a statement coming from an open minded individual with no preconceived prejudices. I'm sure that if you met one, that you would be tolerant and civil.
Says the guy, who has NEVER listened to FOX News or he would know that isn't close to being true. Why do I think you spend all your time on MSNBC and CNN, where they whip themselves into an emotional lather daily, chanting "Impeach Trump".
You've leaped to the conclusion that anything that Indy35 says is true, which was your first mistake. Then you compounded the mistake by denouncing her based on a lie, but you seem to be on a roll, so don't let me slow you down...
Anyone who admires Lenin and Communism is too ignorant to realize that millions of people were exterminated in Communist Russia in the name of the revolution. No, it wasn't the wealthy. The bulk of the deaths was the peasants that saw the Communist oppression coming and opposed it. Lenin/Stalin murdered over 60 million of their fellow countrymen in their quest for power. Keep spouting your Commie dogma. You're the poster child for intolerance.
Ironically, Lenin coined a phrase for people like you - "Useful Idiots". My only question is about the "Useful" part.
Problem is -- most like you see everyone you disagree with as a racist fearmonger, even when they're anything but ...
So based largely on your own ignorant missperception, you feel justified in denying free speech rights to your political opponents and possibly even justified in using force to silence or punish them.
Thank you for demonstrating the evil roots of the antifa movement to the board.
So a black woman couldn't have gotten that job based on ability? She was just a token hire to meet a quota?
Hmmm, and you call other people racist and sexist?
Harris Faulkner is a very intelligent, articulate woman, who happens to be Conservative. How can a black woman leave the Liberal plantation, unless it's due to tokenism? Probably, because she has a sharp mind and is able to think for herself. She figured out that Liberal politicians only cared about Black people a few months before their next election. Otherwise, they were largely ignored. If you really believe she was some kind of token hire, you've never listened to her. Do yourself a favor and make the effort to actually hear what she has to day, before you dismiss and denigrate the woman.
What a complete crock of crap.
So nobody should assimilate, because it's racist in your mind. If you were in charge, we would have a nation of thousands of small villages with each defined by it's own "culture". They couldn't communicate, because it would require people to learn a different language, which would be betraying their own culture. I can only imagine the level of racism involved to expect all the people in the SAME NATION to speak a common language, so we could all communicate together.
I'd suggest that you burn all your race cards, because you're triggered to find racism where it doesn't exist.
Wow - are you an engineer? Because that was an impressive straw man you built. Newsflash - we don't require assimilation right now (nor speaking of English). And yes, believe it or not, there are pockets of America where the language/food/clothes/customs are still quite similar to the country of origin of the people that live there - and yet, we survived as a country!!
Since when do supposed small-government "conservatives" advocate for government intervention on a Federal level to dictate "culture"? Sounds like a nanny-state idea to me...
Just when I think you can't say something more ignorant, you prove me wrong. It's really a mixed bag right now. Your comments are really amusing, but it scares me a little that there are people that think like you.
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