OSU or Alabama in playoffs?
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With prep time it makes no sense to have 3 weeks for the semi final and 1 week for title. At least 2 weeks of prep like Superbowl
We need an eight team playoff. All contrarian opinions are immediately countered by the Div II 16-team playoff.
Alabama showed they belong in the playoffs. Wouldn't surprise me if they win it all. I'll be rooting for Georgia though.
I sure hope they don't expand the football playoffs. I believe for the most part they get the right four teams in it.
Basketball has too many in it already. How many 10 to 16 seeded teams have won it all?
NONE!
Basketball has too many in it already. How many 10 to 16 seeded teams have won it all?
NONE!
1) Due to Florida State having an off season Alabama’s non-conference schedule was a nothing special, 2) the SEC ONLY plays 8 Conference games plus the SEC was down outside the Top 3 or 4 Teams, 3) a few years ago the SEC & ACC stated that playing a 9th conference game only gives half the teams another loss so they do not play 9 conference games 4) Alabama didn’t play in their Conference Championship game so they benefitted from an extra week off and one less week of potential injuries which should be a REQUIREMENT 5). they gamed the system to the max and were rewarded for it by the CFP committee and 6) Saban is already crying about having to play again next Monday and wants more time in between rounds.
Notre Dame has taken note and with their recent announcement of softening their future schedules so they have learned the SEC’s lesson well. This year’s game between two SEC teams and in Atlanta will not do well in nationwide ratings which will cost big $$$. This was THE year to put in the outside the Power 5 Team UCF and put that to rest. Coach Frost made his thoughts known how he felt the committee gamed the system to keep UCF out.
The majority of the US outside the South will have no interest in the game come Monday...the CFP Committee and process are a flop, IMO. Alabama may very well be the best team in the country this year but by gaming the system to the max and not playing in their conference championship game they should not have been selected.
Notre Dame has taken note and with their recent announcement of softening their future schedules so they have learned the SEC’s lesson well. This year’s game between two SEC teams and in Atlanta will not do well in nationwide ratings which will cost big $$$. This was THE year to put in the outside the Power 5 Team UCF and put that to rest. Coach Frost made his thoughts known how he felt the committee gamed the system to keep UCF out.
The majority of the US outside the South will have no interest in the game come Monday...the CFP Committee and process are a flop, IMO. Alabama may very well be the best team in the country this year but by gaming the system to the max and not playing in their conference championship game they should not have been selected.
This game could have been Big12 vs ACC and honestly LESS eyeballs would have tuned in IMO.
Sec and BIG10 are far and away the 2 most popular conferences. If TVs are on in a sports friendly household on Monday, they will be watching. Now, if they stick it out through all 5 hours of coverage...that’s another story.
Five hours is way too much time to watch a 60 minute football game. Even four hours is too long for me. Way too many interruptions for spot replays etc.
UCF beat Auburn. Auburn beat both Alabama and Georgia. So yeah they got screwed this year and should have been in the playoff.
This argument is terrible. Bama and UGA lost to Auburn @ Auburn in one of the toughest places to play while in the head of a conference race.
Auburn lost to UCF at a neutral site game where they were honestly outnumbered in the stands. That game definitely meant more to UCF than it did Auburn. Still an impressive win....but it doesn't mean what you think it does at the end of the day. Also, UGA avenged the earlier loss vs. Auburn in a big way on that same field.
The argument is silly. Would UCF be a decent game for Alabama or UGA? Sure. Using this as a reason as to why UCF should have gotten in is outrageous. You don't think that Wisconsin or Ohio State would deserve spots in a top 4 after their wins? What about the fact that Bama and UGA beat the #1 and #2 ranked teams in the country to earn their spots in the finals?
Everybody is acting like the committee hand picked this final. They didn't.
I don't think UCF had the "resume" to be one of the top 4 teams, but my complaint (as is UCF's and other non P5 teams) is there is a caste system within FBS where some teams have no shot at playing for the national championship. You could literally replace UCF's players with the New England Patriots and they still would not have been put in the playoff based on the name of the school and the conference they play in.
The argument is teams like UCF need to play tougher nonconference schedules. There is some truth to that, but its harder than it sounds.
Besides, based on the reaction to the Auburn game (UCF won because Auburn didn't want to be there), I'm not convinced playing a tougher schedule would do anything to change perception.
Maybe it is time just to go ahead and officially separate P5 from G5 schools and create FPS, FBS, and FCS within D1. Otherwise it is a sham. I'm struggling to think of any other scenario in major sports where a team can go undefeated and not get a shot at a title.
The argument is teams like UCF need to play tougher nonconference schedules. There is some truth to that, but its harder than it sounds.
Besides, based on the reaction to the Auburn game (UCF won because Auburn didn't want to be there), I'm not convinced playing a tougher schedule would do anything to change perception.
Maybe it is time just to go ahead and officially separate P5 from G5 schools and create FPS, FBS, and FCS within D1. Otherwise it is a sham. I'm struggling to think of any other scenario in major sports where a team can go undefeated and not get a shot at a title.
How does UCF not deserve to be in the top 4? They were undefeated and won 4 games against the top 25. Granted 2 of those were against the same team in Memphis.
This argument is pretty weak. The name of the game is winning so that should be the most important criteria.
My only concern is if the 24 team play-off at the FCS level can be completed in a timely manner without breaks, then I see no reason the BIG BOYS can't do something similar with 8-16 teams and not require to have all these breaks and prep time. The excuses coaches come up with about needing time to heal because the BIG BOYS are bigger and hit harder is total BS. The players at the FCS level are just as big and hit just as hard and have also played the BIG BOYS and won during the pre-season. teams like Northern Iowa hit just as hard as IU.
Sure, play cupcakes all year and win and you're good.
The Auburn win was a good one for UCF. Totally get that. My issue is, beating Auburn in January on a neutral field in a game that doesn't carry heavy meaning for them is a lot different than playing them in November on their home field in the middle of a conference championship race.
If you can't see the difference in conditions.....I can't help you.
So you are saying that none of bowl wins mean anything since they are on a neutral field then? That is a terrible argument. I'm sure Auburn played as hard in the bowl game as they did in the conference season.
A few things about the cupcake scheduling argument..
(1) Going undefeated against a D1 FBS schedule is hard to do. If it wasn't you would see more undefeated teams.
(2) Remove P5 teams from the argument. Purdue could play Indiana St, Ball St, and Eastern Michigan in the non-conference, and if they run the table in the Big Ten and win the BTCG they'd be in the playoff without question. Same for any other P5 team. Hell, Wisconsin played nobody out of conference, and they would have made it with one loss had they beaten OSU in Indy.
(3) Non P5 teams.. Here's where it gets a bit trickier. These teams could conceivably water their schedules down and also have no very good teams in conference play. However, most of them require the big paydays that come from playing P5 schools in order to fund their athletic departments. Also, if non P5 teams weaken their schedules too much, they risk not being selected for ANY bowl game unless they win 9 or 10 games. Making a bowl game for 99% of these programs is a much more relevant concern than attempting to go undefeated.
Hypotheticals aside, intentionally weaking the schedule is not something you can hang on UCF. They scheduled 2 P5 programs, which are historically decent middle-of-the-pack programs. Maryland turned out to be bad, but UCF beat them handily @Maryland. The GT game was cancelled due to a natural disaster.
At the end of the day they did everything they could do in their position. Their position is one of never being able to compete for a title unless they can accurately project which teams are going to be in the playoff, successfully get them on the schedule years in advance, and beat them all.
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NO NO NO NO NO NO NO!
It has NOTHING to do with "subdivision"!
If you want to go down THAT road, then it's required we take into account the opposition.
Period!
Sagarin has them as THIRTEENTH.
Good grief, folks.
They play NO ONE, run the table and win ONE bowl game.
They are NOT worthy of top-4 status.
No. Oh, H*LL no. No matter how much I respect what they accomplished. It's just . . . NOT . . . there.
The only reason Purdue would be in the playoff would be because of the rigor of the CONFERENCE. B1G West Champions, PLUS . . . (wait for it) . . . WINNER OF THE B1G CHAMPIONSHIP GAME.
Big difference.
Not at all the same as UCF.
C'mon, folks. Let's use our noggin
No.
It's one thing to win vs. P5 on a neutral field. It's something totally different to have to GO THROUGH a P5 school on their home field on the way to an undefeated season.
Goodness. You're making this too hard.
Great call on people having no interest in this game...
https://www.sbnation.com/college-fo...ratings-alabama-georgia-national-championship
