No way Fletch plays fewer than 25 mpg, probably closer to 30.
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If we have other shooters… West or Benter or transfer, I believe he could go into a time share, CMP clearly thought he was a hindrance on D this year, as he was frequently subbed on defense this year.
Pencil in smith at 35. I could see TK staying around 30.
And agree with everything else you said for mins 😂
Maybe west shirts? But makes no sense now a days haha. I would think we get one more portal guy besides a front court guy
I bet fletch is 20-25 range. If he can catch and shoot and get the shot out quicker than he has, I could see him playing the mins you say.
But man, as I type this, you’re prob right 😂
I am not seeing the minutes quite so evenly divided. Loyer will play over 30 and Smith will continue to be on the court almost all of the time.
I can see a world where Loyer plays less minutes and we are better - just saying maybe less than 30
That’s fair. There are a lot of guys in the roster who could push him for minutes. They don’t bring what he does offensively, but Cox, Harris, and Colvin all showed a big upside on defense.
I do agree that Heide may split time between the 3 and 4, but he’ll have a lot of competition at both spots. It should be interesting.
DJ/Cluff 20min each
TKR 30min+
Colvin/Heide 20min each
Cox/Harris 20min each
Loyer 30min +/-
Braden 35 min
-Burgess, Benter and West are the wild cards, may be another year before they see the floor consistently. Burgess lost his minutes due to a foot/leg injury so he has to get healthy before giving him any meaningful role minutes.
Guessing rotations are more predictable than guessing minutes right now but I bet
Smith/TRK/Loyer are all 30mins+. High minutes for Loyer means he’s playing great or Harris/Cox/Colvin aren’t getting it done. If Cluff is added I see split minutes between him and Jacobson with the hot hand/better matchup getting more. I just hope others can step up so Smith and TKR can take more breathers throughout the game.
TKR 30min+
Colvin/Heide 20min each
Cox/Harris 20min each
Loyer 30min +/-
Braden 35 min
-Burgess, Benter and West are the wild cards, may be another year before they see the floor consistently. Burgess lost his minutes due to a foot/leg injury so he has to get healthy before giving him any meaningful role minutes.
Guessing rotations are more predictable than guessing minutes right now but I bet
Smith/TRK/Loyer are all 30mins+. High minutes for Loyer means he’s playing great or Harris/Cox/Colvin aren’t getting it done. If Cluff is added I see split minutes between him and Jacobson with the hot hand/better matchup getting more. I just hope others can step up so Smith and TKR can take more breathers throughout the game.
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I feel like….i don’t even know what I just bet 😂
I feel like Cluff sees how he would fit at Purdue and has informed ISU and they have made other plans accordingly.
I cannot believe they would have signed that other player without receiving word from Cluff who probably was their top target.
I’ve said in other threads concerning NIL. That it is up to the AD how a school’s NIL is divided. My source says BIG 10 teams are going to see a huge increase in NIL money. And it has been pointed out by others that Purdue tends to give more NIL money to its basketball players than most colleges do. So basically the Purdue football team will have to suck it up and Cluff will receive a nice NIL package.
As for Flory, sorry guy, you entered the portal too late. And you’ll probably go back to Kansas now that Dickinson has left. Or maybe to Auburn.
I cannot believe they would have signed that other player without receiving word from Cluff who probably was their top target.
I’ve said in other threads concerning NIL. That it is up to the AD how a school’s NIL is divided. My source says BIG 10 teams are going to see a huge increase in NIL money. And it has been pointed out by others that Purdue tends to give more NIL money to its basketball players than most colleges do. So basically the Purdue football team will have to suck it up and Cluff will receive a nice NIL package.
As for Flory, sorry guy, you entered the portal too late. And you’ll probably go back to Kansas now that Dickinson has left. Or maybe to Auburn.
It was surprising to see Loyer on the bench very late in the Houston game. Painter was more concerned about playing defense than what he could bring offensively or as a foul shooter.
I think the very little I saw that DJ (even in warmups) can go to the perimeter and shoot. I also expect Trey to work on his perimeter shooting as well.
I think the same. TKR will come back with a much better "outside" shot.
Watched the 1st half of the Bama game and to me, Cuff looks like a bigger, whiter version of TKR. He looks like a low post, back to the basket offensive player with range to 15 (I didn't see the 2nd half so not sure if he extended his shooting range). Not a great athlete or leaper. Looks like he's not afraid of being physical.
Is he a Kevin Love or Dickinson type?
Based on a very small sample size, not sure I'd see him as the No.1 big in the portal?
If he wants to improve his stock for after Purdue, he knows this...and it will be catch and shoot, not shooting off the dribble
Hopefully NOT a Dickinson type. He seems to actually want to rebound unlike Hunter. So closer to love between the two but not like love where he is going to consistently step out and hit a 3. We need Oscar to rebound alongside TKR…this will also allow TKR to be more aggressive on defense and rebounding.
Also, can we practice setting on ball screens this offseason!? 😂
i believe you may think of jacobsen and Cluff as the second coming of Haarms and Haas. Not sure if they ever played together. short term memory is gone. Jacobsen has an outside shot. cluff can be inside. we don't need 20,000 three point shooters on our team. we can have our guards take more 3point shots and tkr, cluff and jacobsen collecting the rebounds. Cluff could add that physical presence in the paint. we could have jacobsen and cluff, or cluff and tkr or tkr and jacobsen and tkr.
i could see heide playing more at the three
i could see heide playing more at the three
Looking back, Jones was a perfect fit because on defense he could take the top target and covered for Loyer’s lack of defensive prowess. Maybe Cox or Myles or Harris could step up their defense and be that stopper and allow Loyer to go back to being a catch and shoot player. Defense has never been Loyer’s forte. Maybe Loyer could come off the bench and just fire away. We are fortunate to have so many options.
The key to Loyer and our other guards is to have a strong presence in the paint.
The key to Loyer and our other guards is to have a strong presence in the paint.
I've posted before, but a buddy who saw a game with Benter and Catchings came away and said that Benter was the better player (for that game, anyway). A friend that lives in Brownstown and attended all his games agrees. Coaches kid, so you know he's got the smarts for the game.
Were benter and catchings on the same team? There was a report Catchings was in town visiting. Maybe someone saw him and he was hanging out with benter.
I recall a few years back when Raphael (?) as a senior said he would gladly accept a position change or come off the bench if that was what Painter wanted. He said he would do anything coach wanted because he had faith in Coach. It didn’t happen, but he was willing to put the interests of the team ahead of his own needs.
I’m unsure of Loyer’s personality or his future plans. Would he accept a lesser role or a different role?
As I think of Loyer, I’m also reminded of Gillis. Gillis had to know going to Duke what his role this year was going to be and that he would play fewer minutes and be Flagg’s mentor.
I’m not suggesting Loyer should be replaced in the starting lineup or take a lesser role. What I’m saying is we have a lot of awesome options!
I’m unsure of Loyer’s personality or his future plans. Would he accept a lesser role or a different role?
As I think of Loyer, I’m also reminded of Gillis. Gillis had to know going to Duke what his role this year was going to be and that he would play fewer minutes and be Flagg’s mentor.
I’m not suggesting Loyer should be replaced in the starting lineup or take a lesser role. What I’m saying is we have a lot of awesome options!
The highlights i saw showed him hitting at least one 3 pointer and some nice passing. Maybe a taller version of Trevion?
Given every team has paid players now......the only question is assigning the right amounts to the right kids. Can Coach and staff assure that, I think so.
I really think that Cluff and TKR can coexist, especially with Braden running the show. It helps that both are highly skilled and are excellent passers. It puts defense in a tough spot, especially if you add some great shooters to the mix. Doubling TKR would be really tough because you would have to account for Cluff, not just as a scorer but as an offensive rebounder.
I believe Cluff could coexist with either tkr or Jacobsen.
I saw one report that classified Cluff as a PF rather than center. I believe any of the three could interchange roles. But in saying that, I believe we need two big men and not Heide trying to be a big man at the 4. Heide is just not the answer at the 4 against the top teams.
I saw one report that classified Cluff as a PF rather than center. I believe any of the three could interchange roles. But in saying that, I believe we need two big men and not Heide trying to be a big man at the 4. Heide is just not the answer at the 4 against the top teams.
I thought the same thing.... His game is very much like TKR, but he's not as good of finisher (Brantley could fix that). I thought his shot from 15'-20' looked better than TKR's. I know a lot of people want to see TKR step out & shoot the 3 next year, but he is so solid around the basket, that I'm not sure it's necessary for Purdue (for him for the NBA, probably).
Loyer cooled off after his hot start in the game... which was huge to keep us in it. We came back by getting stops, which is not his strong suit.
I agree, but Loyer is usually in a tight game due to his offense and foul shooting. This game was kind of abnormally with him being on the bench in this situation.
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