It's interesting to me that you read an article that uses the term "non-citizens" but you choose to use the term "illegals." I see nothing in the article that indicates how many of the 499 may be in the country illegally. The article also makes an assumption in even using the term "non-citizens," since it also says that these are folks who didn't respond to confirm their citizenship, but that they can still do so after submitting a provisional ballot. So, it could be true that some number of the 499 actually ARE citizens.
Relevance is that if they are trying to immigrate to US but not doing so through the proper channels then they are illegals (“proper channels” meaning
I understand what you mean by "illegals," but I don't understand the relevance of that to this particular article that doesn't discuss illegal immigration.
You brought up the terms "non-citizens" and compared to "illegals".
I didn't bring up either term. The article brought up the term "non-citizens" and the OP brought up the term "illegals." I was simply asking why the OP felt the need to characterize all non-citizens (or at least all of the 499 referenced in the article) as illegals when there is no evidence to suggest that is true.
So, I will ask another way:
In my understanding, non-citizens are not allowed to vote at all, except in a few local elections in certain places.
Again, I don't see the relevance of this question to the article presented in this thread. Why does it matter what I (or anyone else, for that matter) call a different group of people than those referenced in the article?
Do you see a difference between an illegal immigrant and a non-citizen here on some type of legal visa?
I see a difference in their legal status (as apparently you do, as well), yes. I'd have thought that was obvious given the question I asked, but evidently not. But the original poster apparently doesn't, which was why I asked my question to seek clarification. Unfortunately, he was either unwilling or unable to answer it.
Ok, good. Just so we're clear, you're OK with calling someone here illegally an "Illegal Alien" or "Illegal Immigrant"?
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I'll ask for like the third time, what relevance is it to my question regarding the article what term I would use for someone of a particular immigration status?
Why is it relevant?
How does my use of terminology affect our ability to do any of those things (FYI, I do not work in immigration enforcement or any such related field)? You've not presented any justification here as to why your question is relevant to the thread, to the question I asked, or to the article.
I clearly do, both based on my original question and my statement in an earlier reply of "I see a difference in their legal status." The person who apparently DOESN'T see a distinction between the two groups is the original poster of this thread, so maybe you should be asking them this question.
Wow, what a waste of time all that was. And here I thought you were trying to engage with my question.
Why won't you answer my question: Do you think the term Illegal immigrant is accurate?
At this point, the length of this conversation is way out of proportion to my interest in it. Why do you care what term I use? We both agree there are different classifications of people who live here but who are non-citizens and that one of those classifications refers to people who are not here legally. Whether I'd use the term "illegal alien," "illegal immigrant," or "misunderstood tourist" means ****-all with respect to the existence of those legal classifications.
Because, I'm getting the sense that you're a liberal, and liberals like to word-smith terms to support their narrative.
Do you think it's likely that (noted liberal news source) Fox News "word-smithed" the term "non-citizen" in their article above when they really were referring to "illegal immigrants?" Are you accusing ME of word-smithing when I'm not the one who used the terms in the first place? Seems to me that, in this case, and assuming the Fox article chose their terms accurately, that Boiler Buck "word-smithed" non-citizens into illegals to support a narrative.
Not trolling.
