I’m not sure which I enjoy more, your literalism or hyperbole. Thank you for sharing both, it made me smile on a Friday afternoon.
Not saying Nojel can be Dennis Rodman as a player, but ....
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I’m not sure which I enjoy more, your literalism or hyperbole. Thank you for sharing both, it made me smile on a Friday afternoon.
His post was filled with facts. Yours was just an emotional rant because you didn't like what he said. Maybe instead of throwing out baseless accusations like so many here do, you could respond with facts to show him why the Rodman comparison was actually a good one? Because frankly I think it's a horrible comparison as well.
Don’t assume that everyone that posts on here all the time is a Boilermaker. With a free board and even the pay site people will hide behind a keyboard. I and many have been hard on Nojel on here at times, but still will cheer and support him. He’s a Boilermaker and we all should. We all know he needs to fix his shooting mechanics. If this is done he will have the confidence that he has never had in college. Based on what his mom has said on here he is getting with a shooting coach. A player can change their shooting motion , baseball swing , or Throwing motion in an offseason. Getting with the right person is number 1. Number 2 is continually working that different motion for thousands of reps. His mom has said he has worked as much as possible now and plans to do it all this offseason. I believe it. I for one am looking forward to seeing his transformation next year. I think he can be the leader. Players always follow the guys that worked the hardest on the team and lead by example.
Good Ole C Martin became a good shooter in one offseason back in 1993. Nojel can do it. Have faith and support the guys. Some of you that rip Nojel constantly I feel were nicer to Haarms on his way out the door. You know the kid who quit on the Boilermakers.
[QUOTE="SCBoiler1, post: 2588290, member: 13857.Nojel averaged 4.9 points a game and 4 rebounds last year.[/QUOTE]
Wow; a couple of years ago at IU James Blackmon Jr. and Rob Johnson averaged 4.8 and 4.4 rebounds per game respectively.
Not say either of those guys could potentially be the next Dennis Rodman either, but I’m reading this thread and starting to see the potential!
Wow; a couple of years ago at IU James Blackmon Jr. and Rob Johnson averaged 4.8 and 4.4 rebounds per game respectively.
Not say either of those guys could potentially be the next Dennis Rodman either, but I’m reading this thread and starting to see the potential!
The next time Blackmon plays good defense will be the first. Although that’s kind of a running theme down there isn’t it?
It's been said by a famous IU alum that James Blackmon "can't guard a chair." But he could rebound, apparently! lol
I’ll admit that the comparison requires looking beyond what is to what could be. If one chooses to compare a 20 year old college student to a 5x NBA champion base on accomplishments the comparison would fail to resonate.
I’ll also say that the comparison did not state or imply that Nojel can be as good as Rodman, only that if he followed his lead in terms of playing style, intensity and doing all the dirty work that a team needs, he could have a long professional career (whether that’s in the NBA or elsewhere).
As far as the direct comparison, they are very similar physically. Both are 6’7”, long, lean and muscular. Nojel reminds me of Dennis on defense the in the way that he not only locks down the other player but can be a constant pest and really get in their head.
Nojel is not in the same world as Dennis as a rebounder, I’m not sure that anyone is, but it’s interesting to hear Dennis talk about how he taught himself to be a great rebounder. If you haven’t seen the episode I highly recommend it.
I don’t think IMO that my son compares to Rodman but what I would say what nojel does is do the little things not much scoring that can help a team win games. He hustles defend rebound bring energy motor great bench teammate no off the court issues has winning ways that also can score those things is what Rodman did. He was an elite rebounder and nojel could become that kinda player that can put his ego aside and do what it takes on both ends to help a team win games. Can’t get enough of those types players willing to do the dirty work and that’s what Rodman did and he was cool with that and it got Rodman championships. The past is the past nojel now looking at his future bcuz nothing is promised tomorrow
You keep saying confidence Treed but again I'll tell you this I think it's anxiety!!! For people that's never had it you have NO idea how tough it is to deal with!Read the article about Kyle Guy he had it 2 years ago and he needed a lot of help and therapy.Worked out pretty good for him the next year didn't it?I think you need to try that!I'm obviously not a doctor but have battled anxiety in certain parts of my life all my life if that makes sense!
Treed, as a coach, if I'm honest with you as I've always been, this is a weird year for someone trying to move to the next level unless they're the absolute cream of the crop. GM's aren't going to be taking flyers, no risks, no projects. There is No real evaluation, no face to face meetings, lots of unknowns which if it's a regular year, can be determined by tryout's, by talking to the prospect in person. While I love what Nojel brings to the court, I really think he needs for this year to be his best to reach his ultimate goal. Nice young man, polite, getting his grades...never a problem are all great attributes the pro's look for, and he has that.
I'm hoping he stays this year, and has a great final season before moving on up. Leaving this year, in my opinion, would be a mistake.
So you sound like he's done with Purdue and is moving on regardless. I hope that's not the case.
I think Gillis, Nojel, and Tre Williams are going to form a terrific scoring core inside the 3-pt line this next year. All three are good passers and will befuddle other teams once the ball goes inside. I think we will see some incredible passing in the paint. With some improved shooting from the outside by Hunter, IT, and Sasha, the inside game is going to be electrifying. Nojel will showcase his real skills as a passer and play maker.
I respect your honest opinion I’m aware of what’s going on he just going thru the process.
Can't blame the kid for that Treed. Congrats on a great son.
Yep Treed same for me I was embarrassed too.Hard for me to admit because I was always a hard nosed guy like I'm sure Nojel is.Stay with the therapy and I hope Nojel can work through it a have a helluva career where ever!!
Anxiety is a crazy thing. The Cubs pitcher that can throw a 95 mph fastball across the plate, but can’t toss it to first base? Weird!
I hope his team mates and his coach have been a strong supporter for him. These kids have played together and rooted for each other for three years now. I suspect they will be a good support system.
i would be embarrassed if my mom was on a message board discussing my personal mental issues.
She has gone on record saying she doesn't tell him anything she posts here. I'm pretty sure there's a good reason for that. What college kid would want their parent telling strangers about their personal problems? Especially a visible kid like as D1 basketball player. The whole thing is strange. I'll stay away from anything else, or this thread will get locked too.
It sounds like his teammates and the coaching staff have been supportive toward him. I think if your friends and teammates help you, you can get through these problems a little easier.
Agreed, but it's still a public forum that anyone may read.
I've always been of the personal belief that a message board like this exists for people to talk about all sorts of things - and they are critical at times and positive at times - and considering it's anonymous, has little accountability for what can be said. Personally, if I were a parent I wouldn't need (or want) to expose myself to what can be a toxic environment particularly in difficult seasons, let alone get involved in it, on a daily basis. There's no reason to try and defend your children one-on-one which it often devolves into -- and now it's getting uncomfortable in talking about mental issues. I'm not sure what the positive outcomes are, aside from the people who wish to try to extract info out...which is also not really appropriate on either side.
Just my personal opinion though, doesn't make it right or wrong.
Point well taken sir and I respect this opinion and more than likely adhere to it bcuz you are right
If he goes he goes, it's his life, let Nojel do what he wants, he doesn't owe any of us anything. I hope he comes back, however, him staying another yr isn't going to make him a first round or probably second round draft pick. He'll get an invite to NBA camp, with his athleticism he might stick. People get angry when kids leave, kids don't owe any of us anything. It's not like Purdue is the only school losing kids, they all are, if Nojel doesn't come back I wish him the best, Purdue will be fine either way.
While I agree that he should feel entirely free to make whatever decision that he feels is best for him, I'm afraid that I disagree when people suggest that scholarship athletes don't owe the school or fans anything. As near as I recall they're receiving an education, their food, their lodging and so forth leading to a pretty good lifestyle. No, it's not easy but it's not easy for all of the students working to pay their own freight either. I understand it's a two way street but to suggest they should feel they owe no one anything is pretty shallow.
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