No Bruce Brown
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Getting a bit concerned about future recruiting. Come on CMP, don't let this turn into 2008-2011 again.
I'm not. CMP I'd doing all he can and out there recruiting as he was just at one of Brown's games.
Ultimately he can only do so much. Wasn't Brown a 2016 recruit? If so, we are still loaded... 2017 is where we need to fill some major gaps most likely IMO.
We only lose one guy at Brown's position next yr. I know it's early but with the way Cline, Mathias and Stevens are shooting playing time at shooting guard is going to be spread out quite a bit as you won't be able to keep those three off the court. I would have like to have gotten a quality big though.
You can never have enough shooters, and in Brown's case, he was more than that seemingly. There is an equal logjam at IU, yet they are one of his two finalists...so the issue was definitely not one of worrying about the opportunity to play, especially in the case of a guy like Brown given his talent. Is it the end of the world that Purdue/Painter did not get him? Absolutely not...is it disappointing that a day after his visit that he had absolutely zero interest in Purdue? Absolutely, and it is the bigger issue in my mind at least, as it has happened far too often with ultra-talented players. We all saw what happened when Purdue was last loaded and then failed to add to it or maintain it...here's hoping that not only was a lesson learned, but action can be taken to make sure that it does not happen again.
I don't think he's been labeled a shooter at all. He's a Rapheal Davis clone (attacking on offense and D) but quicker.
I would have loved to get Brown as well. We do need a guy that can create for himself. I'm not concerned with the 2 guard spot for that class with the shooters we have. I am disappointed we didn't get a good big. Hammons will be gone. Who's to say Biggie will still be here next year? How long will Haas or Edwards stay? I agree it is frustrating that as soon as his visit is over it seems he couldn't wait to eliminate us. Even after 2 games with good crowd and guards getting to fire at will with no restrictions. The 2017 class will be critical for keeping this momentum going.
And to me that's what makes it all the more surprising he eliminated Purdue so quickly given that RD is graduating this year. Purdue will have a few shooters on the roster next year, but there isn't really a guy in-line to fill the role Davis served. Whatever Brown heard/saw on his visit, it clearly wasn't what he was looking for if he bounced Purdue from contention 24 hours later. Too bad too as I think he'll be a really good college player with his work ethic and hustle.
I agree, I think the 2017 class will be an important one as we didn't make a lot of progress in 2016. Yes, we did get our biggest need which was a point guard. I was hoping to land a big to replace Hammons. I always like when a team can reload instead of rebuild.
Frankly anyone who spends anytime around this team and then decides we're not for him, we don't want. I want someone who comes in and falls in love with the culture we have.
This. And we may still add someone for 2016, you never know.
If he decides you are not for him, he is not coming anyway. He decided that within 15 hours of visiting your campus for an entire weekend, so I guess the culture was not a match.
Where did the former IU assistant coach (established pipeline to east coast) Kenny Johnson leave IU to go coach? Pretty sure he went to Lousivlle to be one of Pitinos asst coaches about a year or two ago. Wonder if he had any idea what type of recruiting UL did....or if he had some type of experience with shenanigans already?
Our culture is not one that many elite players are going to be drawn to. Defense is expected, playing time is earned. An All-B1G player is riding the pine for not "taking care of things" that apparently have nothing to do with the law or academics. Do you really think an IU or Miami is giving him the same message?
he must have saw all those 3's going in and wondered if he would hit the court?
he must have saw all those 3's going in and wondered if he would hit the court?
I realize this was tongue in cheek, but Painter has got to be able to add big time talent when he's already got a strong roster. If not, we end up exactly where we were following the 2007 class.
What is he not taking care of? Did he flunk some "tests"? If he has the grades and not charged with anything, what is it? Yes, IU has kicked 3 players off of the team this year for not "taking care of things". Will Painter do the same?
How many of those 3 were in trouble with the law at one point or another (while on the team)?
I genuinely didn't know the answer to my own question but just checked. Answer: all three. Hammons is sitting for something internal. Painter has his team under control; Crean doesn't.
https://sports.vice.com/en_us/artic...missals-reveal-lack-of-accountability-in-ncaa
Crean is hardly a model disciplinarian. Takes action when it's to his advantage. But I'm sure Williams has changed his ways (TIC).
wow are you an idiot to even make this comparison. not worth any further response. hey, on a different topic, have you run anybody over lately, Jimmy?
There are not "tons" of good players in the spring and those available are highly sought after. 2008 all over again and the pressure for 2017 is off the charts.
Remember that coach has taken a liking to 5th year seniors and the maturity they bring. I could see him going that route again in '16 to fill a spot. And '17 if needed, though not as a first choice obviously. As well as it worked out for both players and school the past few years, I think we will be in a good position with those players.
It has benefited Purdue at times (especially a year ago with Octeus), but it is a gamble every time, it is not a way to build a program or sustain it, and it stems from recruiting problems. Purdue has enough to offer...more than enough for that matter...to be able to have success recruiting, and it is imperative that it do so in order to remain a contender and competitive in the conference. There is no reason to panic, at least not just yet, but there is reason to be concerned given what happened before. It is easy enough to relieve that concern...it missed out on a seemingly really good chance in Brown, and it will have more chances certainly with the loaded '17 class...but missing out on the '16 targets that they did has added pressure to have success with the '17 class, and they have to land a couple of their higher level targets to prevent a repeat of what happened the last time the program was in this position.
This is spot on. The talk of recruits not wanting to join a loaded roster due to PT doesn't seem to be an issue at really good programs, and it isn't a legitimate one here either. I would think a top 50 player is rarely worried about competition anywhere.
I have to agree with cpr. Good recruits are not going to worry too much about roster spots being "filled". They know Painter will play the best player, period. You have to earn your spot and keep it at Purdue. Top 20 players will have plenty of playing time regardless of the current roster.
What we need to keep in mind is that the current crop of players will tend to attract and successfully recruit players that are highly dedicated, serious, and strongly focused like they are. It maybe that Brown did not want to step into that culture just yet, so he backed off Purdue. Of course, we would have liked him, but medium height slashers are pretty common among recruits, at least when compared to 7'2" centers, or dead-nuts shooters.
Frankly, Brown would have been a nice replacement for Ray Davis, but we need to replace Ray's leadership more than his playing style. That might mean we wait for a talented 2017 player, a player in the spring, or a 5th year transfer. I am more concerned with getting AJ's replacement. In that respect, losing Herald was a bigger deal than losing Brown.
What we need to keep in mind is that the current crop of players will tend to attract and successfully recruit players that are highly dedicated, serious, and strongly focused like they are. It maybe that Brown did not want to step into that culture just yet, so he backed off Purdue. Of course, we would have liked him, but medium height slashers are pretty common among recruits, at least when compared to 7'2" centers, or dead-nuts shooters.
Frankly, Brown would have been a nice replacement for Ray Davis, but we need to replace Ray's leadership more than his playing style. That might mean we wait for a talented 2017 player, a player in the spring, or a 5th year transfer. I am more concerned with getting AJ's replacement. In that respect, losing Herald was a bigger deal than losing Brown.
Larranaga is a great coach and has been very successful at Miami. He will also be Landing 5-Star recruit Huell. Miami has almost sold out of season tickets. Yes, the same Miami that can't get 20,000 for a football game. Larranaga has the students and players fired up. I think Maybe Brown saw this and wanted to be a part of it. Remember, Miami is in the ACC and is a small private school with excellent Academics.
It's in a pretty fun part of the country too. I wish the kid well. Purdue and others will move on. I don't know much about the coach, so I won't comment.
Shameless bump.
Interesting thread. Wonder why this player eliminated Purdue so quickly, was between IU and Miami, and ultimately chose Miami?
