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[Wolegib]

I doubt we here anything from Purdue during their trip. And I doubt any recruit will make an announcement without Purdue in some fashion sharing or acknowledging the announcement. sharing the announcement.


That said, winning these games would go a long way to changing some minds, and also opening some eyes of recruits who previously were looking elsewhere. if we get embarrassed and lose to some no name team, you can say good bye to any and all of our current targets.

 

[Statey]

That's interesting. I realize IU isn't in the running for him but feel like it comes down to us and Butler.

Agree. There was also some light chatter at one point (maybe not anymore, dunno) that he and Aaron Henry had an interest in playing together. Butler is strong with Henry as well, and vice versa. If Henry decides first and chooses Butler, it will be interesting to see what - if any - impact that has on Hunter.

 

[JohnnyDoeBoiler]

I'm guessing Adam Trapp. This is a guess, because I have no idea who we are even close with at this point.

I don't think Purdue takes another big man like Trapp unless they are in the mold of Haarms. I just can't see a kid like Trapp being successful in what Painter has said he wants to move his roster towards. Two guys that are 6'9 to 6'10 but can play inside/out a bit like Taylor and Haarms are much more effective in what CMP would like to do with his offense...just like JJ.

I have long held a thought about CMP going to these huge big guys:

After having some bad teams, Painter wanted something to build on and something that could allow him a quicker rebuild than simply trying to find guys that can out-athlete teams...it wasn't going to happen. So CMP went with finding a huge center that he could build his roster around from the inside out (Hammons). After seeing what it would be like playing with a guy like AJ who could dominate the inside, guys like Mathias, Cline, and VE knew they would be given the ability to play to their strengths (outside shooting, a flexible wing, etc). When CMP ended up getting Haas, that rebuild now turned in to a strength of the program. It is simply easier to sell to a big man about feeding him the ball and finding shooters around him than finding a guy on the wing or point who wants to dominate the ball (think IU post-injury to Blackmon and running to the conference title). Now that the rebuild and establishment of culture has been done, CMP is able to find guys to fit his system again like he did with the Baby Boilers (can you not see the noticeable similarities to JJ in players like Haarms/Taylor....E'twaun in Carsen...Eastern in GDB). Just some rambling thoughts but I think it explains why CMP went after those massive big guys because preparing and then executing a game plan against a team with two 7 footers is incredibly hard and there is a reason why Purdue has been climbing since that point.

 

[JohnnyDoeBoiler]

My prediction would be THT and then Hunter. That would make for a great core of that class and then finding a couple guys that may be some projects that can help establish a deep bench for their junior and senior years or possibly fill the gap if a player leaves early (on the outside chance it happens at Purdue again).

 

[Statey]

if we get embarrassed and lose to some no name team, you can say good bye to any and all of our current targets.

I think that's a little extreme. The most important thing about participating in something like this from a recruiting standpoint, IMO, is just the additional exposure. If you're a recruit interested in Purdue, you'll be paying attention to actual Purdue games (as compared to no games at other schools). I don't think wins v. losses matter a lot; it's kind of like the old saying that there's no such thing as bad publicity. Obviously not technically true, but in this case, even close losses in real games keeps the Purdue name in the news, front and center with a recruit.

 

[tjreese]

My prediction would be THT and then Hunter. That would make for a great core of that class and then finding a couple guys that may be some projects that can help establish a deep bench for their junior and senior years or possibly fill the gap if a player leaves early (on the outside chance it happens at Purdue again).

don't know, but something may be in the works...assuming it is bball

Chris Forman‏@ChrisForman12 2h2 hours ago
Replying to @tylernwilson
Info will be coming soon. I'll just say it's positive news. It's just embargoed, so can't announce anything.

 

[Statey]

don't know, but something may be in the works...assuming it is bball

Chris Forman‏@ChrisForman12 2h2 hours ago
Replying to @tylernwilson
Info will be coming soon. I'll just say it's positive news. It's just embargoed, so can't announce anything.

Has Forman ever tweeted about recruiting/recruits before? My guess is this isn't recruiting related unless it's something dealing with the upcoming 17/18 season. The reason being (obviously) that staff can't talk about unsigned players so no info would be "coming soon" unless it's for this year. Although, he could be referring to 3rd hand info as opposed to info direct from Purdue (the latter is how I originally read it).

 

[ChoiceBeef]

Has Forman ever tweeted about recruiting/recruits before? My guess is this isn't recruiting related unless it's something dealing with the upcoming 17/18 season. The reason being (obviously) that staff can't talk about unsigned players so no info would be "coming soon" unless it's for this year. Although, he could be referring to 3rd hand info as opposed to info direct from Purdue (the latter is how I originally read it).

He was responding to a question about streaming the games live from Taipei.

 

[tjreese]

He was responding to a question about streaming the games live from Taipei.

thank you. I don't follow twitter much and although it isn't recruiting news...it is still good news. I appreciate the help from you and others that follow this much closer.

 

[Wolegib]

I think that's a little extreme. The most important thing about participating in something like this from a recruiting standpoint, IMO, is just the additional exposure. If you're a recruit interested in Purdue, you'll be paying attention to actual Purdue games (as compared to no games at other schools). I don't think wins v. losses matter a lot; it's kind of like the old saying that there's no such thing as bad publicity. Obviously not technically true, but in this case, even close losses in real games keeps the Purdue name in the news, front and center with a recruit.

let me rephrase. I didn't say losing, I said being embarrassed. if we lay an egg you can say good bye to the players Painter is targeting. And by that I'm referring to his top 150 targets. there will always be somebody who will want to play for Purdue. if he offered my son a scholarship, he'd accept it.

 

[FLAG HUNTER]

let me rephrase. I didn't say losing, I said being embarrassed. if we lay an egg you can say good bye to the players Painter is targeting. And by that I'm referring to his top 150 targets. there will always be somebody who will want to play for Purdue. if he offered my son a scholarship, he'd accept it.

well hell , if the gym blows up while Purdue is playing in it then people will get hurt! What's the deal with staying crap like if Purdue gets embarrassed the recruits are gone? You act like Painter never gets good recruits but other teams always do. Lets bring up some more examples of what might happen .

 

[boilerzz]

let me rephrase. I didn't say losing, I said being embarrassed. if we lay an egg you can say good bye to the players Painter is targeting. And by that I'm referring to his top 150 targets. there will always be somebody who will want to play for Purdue. if he offered my son a scholarship, he'd accept it.

I think you are putting way, way too much importance on these games in recruits' eyes.

 

[BBG]

I think you are putting way, way too much importance on these games in recruits' eyes.

 

[Wolegib]

Don't believe me. It's not like there are a ton of top 150 'recruits interested or following Purdue to begin with. . I have to believe those who are on the fence and have shown interest in Purdue will be watching the games. If we lay an egg, they will looking elsewhere.

on the other hand, if we have an impressive games, players like Embery or Phinisee or Anderson may change their minds and reconsider Purdue. . We may even have some new players interested . if you're a high school basketball player, and thinking about Purdue, I have to believe you've heard of these games and will be watching.

I also believe these games will have more of an impact on a recruit's decision than the posts made here or Old boiler's tweets. an impressive games could result in a higher preseason rating, which is always good.

What I'm saying should be the obvious. These are NOT meaningless preseason NFL games. A lot of people including Pro scouts will be watching.

it was just a very short post. Some of you think a simple tweet really impacts a recruit's thinking. Some of you go out of your way and spend too much time to reply to my posts.

 

[boilerzz]

I have to believe those who are on the fence and have shown interest in Purdue will be watching the games.

Hell, we as Purdue fans are having a hard time figuring out how to watch these games. And only the most diehard will set their alarms for 5:30AM to do so.

 

[BBG]

Don't believe me.

Okay thanks, we won't.

If a recruit is basing whether he comes to Purdue on the outcome of these games and the not the complete body of work, then there are far bigger issues with that recruit. And chances are we're truly not an option to begin with or are a last resort.

I don't have any issues with your posts Wolegib, this one is just reading more in to things than needs to be.

 

[Wolegib]

Okay thanks, we won't.

If a recruit is basing whether he comes to Purdue on the outcome of these games and the not the complete body of work, then there are far bigger issues with that recruit. And chances are we're truly not an option to begin with or are a last resort.

I don't have any issues with your posts Wolegib, this one is just reading more in to things than needs to be.

that's who I am and will always be. I was educated and trained to over analyze everything. if you want, blame Purdue, the Air Force and NASA . In many cases, it's something very insignificant and small that might make a huge difference like several degrees in the temperature affecting an o-ring. I'm not a NASA rocket scientist, but I worked with them and learned from them. I was also once part of the Air Force Inspector General (IG) . They trained me well to find fault and look at what others would ignore.

As a youth I had a tough decision - UW or Purdue. I was born and raised in Wisconsin and my college major was computer science.. At that time, both schools had cutting edge computer science programs. But it was a very insignificant letter that made the difference. That letter came from the Purdue Glee Club - a group I had never heard of before visiting Purdue. At the time, that letter seemed very insignificant. but it became the deciding factor.

When all things are equal, it's the small insignificant things that do make a difference. One insignificant missed Ft determined the outcome of a game and a season for Purdue. One very insignificant fumble did the same.

 

[tjreese]

that's who I am and will always be. I was educated and trained to over analyze everything. if you want, blame Purdue, the Air Force and NASA . In many cases, it's something very insignificant and small that might make a huge difference like several degrees in the temperature affecting an o-ring. I'm not a NASA rocket scientist, but I worked with them and learned from them. I was also once part of the Air Force Inspector General (IG) . They trained me well to find fault and look at what others would ignore.

As a youth I had a tough decision - UW or Purdue. I was born and raised in Wisconsin and my college major was computer science.. At that time, both schools had cutting edge computer science programs. But it was a very insignificant letter that made the difference. That letter came from the Purdue Glee Club - a group I had never heard of before visiting Purdue. At the time, that letter seemed very insignificant. but it became the deciding factor.

When all things are equal, it's the small insignificant things that do make a difference. One insignificant missed Ft determined the outcome of a game and a season for Purdue. One very insignificant fumble did the same.

that's who I am and will always be. I was educated and trained to over analyze everything. if you want, blame Purdue, the Air Force and NASA . In many cases, it's something very insignificant and small that might make a huge difference like several degrees in the temperature affecting an o-ring. I'm not a NASA rocket scientist, but I worked with them and learned from them. I was also once part of the Air Force Inspector General (IG) . They trained me well to find fault and look at what others would ignore.

As a youth I had a tough decision - UW or Purdue. I was born and raised in Wisconsin and my college major was computer science.. At that time, both schools had cutting edge computer science programs. But it was a very insignificant letter that made the difference. That letter came from the Purdue Glee Club - a group I had never heard of before visiting Purdue. At the time, that letter seemed very insignificant. but it became the deciding factor.

When all things are equal, it's the small insignificant things that do make a difference. One insignificant missed Ft determined the outcome of a game and a season for Purdue. One very insignificant fumble did the same.

I can analyze as well and mine will always find a statistical tool to reveal what may not be found in reading by some and so I understand a "general" approach. However, relative to Nasa..I've rented to some for over a decade and there are some real misfits and the last I actually worked with rode a motorcycle full speed ahead in the fog into a semi going slower and died on impact. Not all Nasa people are Purdue engineers...

 

[Wolegib]

I can analyze as well and mine will always find a statistical tool to reveal what may not be found in reading by some and so I understand a "general" approach. However, relative to Nasa..I've rented to some for over a decade and there are some real misfits and the last I actually worked with rode a motorcycle full speed ahead in the fog into a semi going slower and died on impact. Not all Nasa people are Purdue engineers...

I can relate to that. I have a EE degree from Purdue and the Air Force never looked at the fine print of my degree. they just assumed being a Purdue grad, it was in Electrical Engineering. Engineers are a different breed of people. My job was to try to "EDUCATE" them and direct them and lead them. And some times I had to break down their analysis into "ELEMENTARY " terms everyone could understand rather than to speak to them on their level . there are many other people like me who graduated with that other EE degree Purdue offers. But in today's society of txting, we sometimes assume the wrong meaning.

 

[Scheffler90]

Purdue just won the B10 title and sent a player to the league...one who had a national following due to his story. If that doesn't position PU well with a recruit, I'm not sure how a barely-watched bball tournament will somehow provide a bigger wow factor.

 

[GS Thomas]

Gut feeling it will be this weekend.

Gut fail.

 

[NVBoilerFan]

Me. If this week continues the way it has went, I will be being committed to the sanitarium sometime this weekend.

 

[BoilerDeac]

at this point, starting to wonder if Purdue will get another commit lol (TIC but kind of sort of not TIC)

 

[TX4GB]

Maybe we can recruit some of the international players over in Taipei. Anyone as good as Yao Ming playing?

 

[BBG]

Purdue just won the B10 title and sent a player to the league...one who had a national following due to his story. If that doesn't position PU well with a recruit, I'm not sure how a barely-watched bball tournament will somehow provide a bigger wow factor.

 

[Gold&Black]

Well they are the the World UNIVERSITY game so I would guess most of the players in the tournament are taken. However, given the size of their elementary school gyms there might be some younger players to look at.

 

[Purdue Grad in Texas]

Me. If this week continues the way it has went, I will be being committed to the sanitarium sometime this weekend.

Hang in there, NVB....

 

[mathboy]

that's who I am and will always be. I was educated and trained to over analyze everything. if you want, blame Purdue, the Air Force and NASA . In many cases, it's something very insignificant and small that might make a huge difference like several degrees in the temperature affecting an o-ring. I'm not a NASA rocket scientist, but I worked with them and learned from them. I was also once part of the Air Force Inspector General (IG) . They trained me well to find fault and look at what others would ignore.

As a youth I had a tough decision - UW or Purdue. I was born and raised in Wisconsin and my college major was computer science.. At that time, both schools had cutting edge computer science programs. But it was a very insignificant letter that made the difference. That letter came from the Purdue Glee Club - a group I had never heard of before visiting Purdue. At the time, that letter seemed very insignificant. but it became the deciding factor.

When all things are equal, it's the small insignificant things that do make a difference. One insignificant missed Ft determined the outcome of a game and a season for Purdue. One very insignificant fumble did the same.

I have to agree with you about the games this summer... to a degree. I think you are getting push back because the outcome of these games means very little overall, so many don't read into them the same potency you do. If we really screw-the-pouch and get blow out more than once, and don't make the medal round, then I can see that failure affecting recruits. The bad publicity will be on ESPN, etc. On the other hand, if we make the medal round, but don't get to the gold, well not so much of an issue. I think the degree of success or failure plays into your theory. However, you have kind of put it out there as either/or, which has caused some backwash.

 

[Wolegib]

agree or disagree.

memories are short. in today's society, it's more of what have you done lately. That Kansas loss and Michigan loss in the BIG 10 need to be replaced with something positive. Purdue needs to stay in the news and be an item and be talked about. And positive news produces positive results.

if the game is on youtube, players will watch it.

if Purdue lays an egg, ESPN will be all over us. if we win, or at least put on a good showing, there will probably be very little media coverage. But when recruiting a player who also likes IU or OSU, it could help sway that player to Purdue. I doubt the whole world cares, but I believe there are a few recruits Purdue is interested in that will be watching.

A realistic question - are we supposed to win? or predicted to win? Who is the favorite?

as they say, What have you done for me lately?

 

[BoilerAndy]

I have to agree with you about the games this summer... to a degree. I think you are getting push back because the outcome of these games means very little overall, so many don't read into them the same potency you do. If we really screw-the-pouch and get blow out more than once, and don't make the medal round, then I can see that failure affecting recruits. The bad publicity will be on ESPN, etc. On the other hand, if we make the medal round, but don't get to the gold, well not so much of an issue. I think the degree of success or failure plays into your theory. However, you have kind of put it out there as either/or, which has caused some backwash.

It will be interesting to see if Calipari loses recruits because he lost an international tournament. Somehow I think it won't have much effect and he'll still have a good class coming in.

 

[cosmickid]

It will be interesting to see if Calipari loses recruits because he lost an international tournament. Somehow I think it won't have much effect and he'll still have a good class coming in.

All indications are he lost Langford,although that's more a result of the overall experience rather than the loss they suffered.But you're right,losing one 5 * doesn't mean Cal won't be able to sign a Top 5 class.

 

[ThreeTwaunMoore]

Don't believe me. It's not like there are a ton of top 150 'recruits interested or following Purdue to begin with. . I have to believe those who are on the fence and have shown interest in Purdue will be watching the games. If we lay an egg, they will looking elsewhere.

Yeah no

 

[Wolegib]

ok, look at in a different perspective.

Say your name is Embery or Anderson or Ahrens. . Sure, Anderson verbaled to IU. Haas verbaled to Vandy, and changed his mind. Swanigan verbaled to MSU and changed his mind.

I have to believe Embery and Anderson and Ahrens all know Purdue is playing in this tourney. if Purdue looks good and possibly wins this tourney, the next time painter talks to them, he can say, see what we did ? What has IU or OSU done lately? Painter can use this tourney and a good performance to win over, and/or win back a recruit he's still after.

but if Purdue lays an egg, Anderson will stay committed to IU, Phinisee will probably commit elsewhere, Ahrens will probably sign with OSU, and Embry will choose a school from his latest top 5.

in the grand scheme of college basketball, Purdue's participation in this tourney will have little meaning.. but if you are a guy like Ahrens or Anderson, and all things are basically equal, and you haven't signed anything yet, a good performance in this tourney could be a difference maker. I doubt a lot of basketball recruits are paying much attention to this tourney, but I think Dow might be A win in this tourney probably won't change Langford's mind. But it might change Ahrens and Anderson's minds. on the other side, if we lay an egg, visions and memories of that Kansas game will resurface.

that's why I feel these games are important.

 

[BoiledSteel]

If people think that these hard to watch games will impact recruiting in any shape or form, either way, need to just never post about recruiting again. Because they are so out of touch with how things work with young people, to which I am not far removed from that age group, that they have no earthly clue what will or won't sway a recruit.

 

[FLAG HUNTER]

So I have deducted from what you are saying, is that Purdue is basically the only team that is under the microscope by recruits and that is why Purdue loses recruits to other team????? I guess other teams never lose in tournament games by a big margin or in their conference tournaments??? Purdue will get really good players, I am not worried at all. This is in response to Wolegib. You might mean well but totally made a mountain out of nothing.

 

[BoiledSteel]

So I have deducted from what you are saying, is that Purdue is basically the only team that is under the microscope by recruits and that is why Purdue loses recruits to other team????? I guess other teams never lose in tournament games by a big margin or in their conference tournaments??? Purdue will get really good players, I am not worried at all. This is in response to Wolegib. You might mean well but totally made a mountain out of nothing.

wolegib reminds me of that Family Guy episode with the guy on the couch and a donkey that just wouldn't admit to something that was clearly wrong.

Found it:

 

[NVBoilerFan]

Hang in there, NVB....

More like this.

 

[Purdue Grad in Texas]

More like this.

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[Wolegib]

wolegib reminds me of that Family Guy episode with the guy on the couch and a donkey that just wouldn't admit to something that was clearly wrong.

Found it:

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And this comes from the guy who said he planned to ignore me and my posts. Sooooooooo, you don't read my posts, but you still want to bash me? Ok, go ahead!

 

[Wolegib]

I never said these games were the ultimate factor in a recruit's decision, but when it comes down to a decision between Purdue and IU or Purdue and OSU, and everything else is about equal, I believe a good tourney run in these games will have an impact and help erase the memory of those Kansas and Michigan losses. And if we lay an egg, it will be used against us.

I'm not stubborn. That's my opinion. If I decided to change that opinion, certain posters here would be all over my case for flip flopping.

And for those that disagree, I'd like you to post your beliefs rather than constantly attacking others. What do you believe is the ultimate factor in a recruit choosing Purdue? If you disagree with me, have the courage to state your own convictions.

For me, there are many factors that play on the decision making of an athlete choosing a school. And when that athlete has narrowed his choices down to 2, 3 or 5, I believe at least this year, our performance in this tournament will be a factor in that decision. The main factor? No. but it will be a factor. The biggest factor is having 4 years of math in high school. Without it, Purdue is not even a choice.