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[BeerbellyBoiler]

IMO CJB will take the L-Ville job. There is way too many strings pulling him home. I also think and agree with previous posters that this can be a year to year distraction. I think MBob needs to put full court press on Dino Babers and maybe that will be enough to keep some of CJB recruits (R.Moore #4) to stay. Next coach must be an offensive guy to keep momentum going.

 

[Pu71indy]

IMO CJB will take the L-Ville job. There is way too many strings pulling him home. I also think and agree with previous posters that this can be a year to year distraction. I think MBob needs to put full court press on Dino Babers and maybe that will be enough to keep some of CJB recruits (R.Moore #4) to stay. Next coach must be an offensive guy to keep momentum going.

Yeah, my take is if this is going to be a yearly thing, as it has been, then maybe he should just leave now. Eventually, I believe recruiting will be difficult if he is linked with other jobs every year and actually considers these jobs. He will come under less fire if he leaves for his alma mater.

 

[Bullwhip Griffith]

If it comes to that (I don’t think it does...this year), Purdue is in a much better position to get a head coach then the time when Darrel was fired.

The football facility is fully completed, there are more funds for on field staff, there are more funds for off field support staff, etc.

Also, the roster is so much better. Yes some may leave if Brohm does, but at every position you have more talent left for a new coach than I can recall as a 30 year Purdue fan.

I’ve seem that if Purdue opens, it could be the most desirable job on the market based on conference, school support, and fan expectations.

I like the idea of Barbers...he would probably coach here until he retired. Reading more about his staff, his DC is reportedly very good with the talent the orangemen have

Also like the idea of Neal Brown or Seth Littrell as two younger coaches.

 

[arcb102000]

If Brohm leaves (I am of the opinion that he will not) then I could see Leach as a real possibility though WSU will want to keep him. I do like the UNT coach and I doubt the ISU coach would be tempted to leave.

Lane Kiffen is looking for a P5 gig. He has an offense that would be attractive. Maybe he has grown up.

 

[PaBoiler78]

If it comes to that (I don’t think it does...this year), Purdue is in a much better position to get a head coach then the time when Darrel was fired.

The football facility is fully completed, there are more funds for on field staff, there are more funds for off field support staff, etc.

Also, the roster is so much better. Yes some may leave if Brohm does, but at every position you have more talent left for a new coach than I can recall as a 30 year Purdue fan.

I’ve seem that if Purdue opens, it could be the most desirable job on the market based on conference, school support, and fan expectations.

I like the idea of Barbers...he would probably coach here until he retired. Reading more about his staff, his DC is reportedly very good with the talent the orangemen have

Also like the idea of Neal Brown or Seth Littrell as two younger coaches.

I'm sure MBOB will be observing Babers this saturday at least on replay since they start at 2:30 vs his alma mater. My 3 choices are Tedford, Babers, and Norvell. Babers is 57 and Tedford just turned 53. I like that age group because we could get a solid 10 yrs from a coach and during that time and age are less likely to be moving around.

 

[fayncbolier]

I don't see why Babers would leave one Power 5 job for another unless the money is significantly better.

Seth Littrell is an attractive choice, and since he is literally an Okie from Muskogee, all the better.

 

[PaBoiler78]

I don't see why Babers would leave one Power 5 job for another unless the money is significantly better.

Seth Littrell is an attractive choice, and since he is literally an Okie from Muskogee, all the better.

the $ would be better, he was here before, and knows the midwest and it's recruiting.

 

[jbromance]

the $ would be better, he was here before, and knows the midwest and it's recruiting.

The issue for Babers is does he wait for something like USC?

 

[fayncbolier]

the $ would be better, he was here before, and knows the midwest and it's recruiting.

Yeah, I saw that he'd been here after I posted (I didn't follow Purdue until I came there for grad school in the mid-90s). He definitely has Syracuse playing well.

 

[PaBoiler78]

The issue for Babers is does he wait for something like USC?

I think the doofus at SC stays one more year, has to win 1 of his 2 remaining games esp. vs UCLA.

 

[PrintersRowBoiler]

I don't see why Babers would leave one Power 5 job for another unless the money is significantly better.

Seth Littrell is an attractive choice, and since he is literally an Okie from Muskogee, all the better.

Better facilities, Big10 > ACC, Syracuse is a basketball school.

But if he makes that move, I think we have the same issue, he will be an annual distraction he would be on the move if he is successful. Has he remained at one place for more than 3 years in his entire career? 2 at E Illinois, 2 at Bowling Green, 3 at Syracuse.

 

[PaBoiler78]

Better facilities, Big10 > ACC, Syracuse is a basketball school.

But if he makes that move, I think we have the same issue, he will be an annual distraction he would be on the move if he is successful. Has he remained at one place for more than 3 years in his entire career? 2 at E Illinois, 2 at Bowling Green, 3 at Syracuse.

all stepping stone schools, he's 57, we would make him comfortable, along w/ his offense, for 8 -10 yrs then he could retire

 

[Bullwhip Griffith]

I'm sure MBOB will be observing Babers this saturday at least on replay since they start at 2:30 vs his alma mater. My 3 choices are Tedford, Babers, and Norvell. Babers is 57 and Tedford just turned 53. I like that age group because we could get a solid 10 yrs from a coach and during that time and age are less likely to be moving around.

Tedfords only 53? Seems like he’s been coaching for that long

 

[jbromance]

Tedfords only 53? Seems like he’s been coaching for that long

Tedford is a west coaster who won’t likely want to come east.

 

[Bullwhip Griffith]

I don't see why Babers would leave one Power 5 job for another unless the money is significantly better.

Seth Littrell is an attractive choice, and since he is literally an Okie from Muskogee, all the better.

He’s the second lowest paid ACC coach with a tough school to recruit too. Purdue could offer enough of a pay increase to at least look at Purdue

 

[JohnnyDoeBoiler]

I don't see why Babers would leave one Power 5 job for another unless the money is significantly better.

Seth Littrell is an attractive choice, and since he is literally an Okie from Muskogee, all the better.

Babers currently makes $2.4 million. Guessing Purdue could sweeten his deal by about $1.5 million and still feel good about what they are getting in return.

However, I think the plan for MBob would have to be as follows:

If he truly believes Brohm is the ticket and the only ticket to continue pushing Purdue toward a championship, he must find a price that is above where he is currently comfortable playing BUT know that if winning continues he will be able to afford that salary. My plan would be to see what UofL is willing to offer...which would likely be around $5 million ($1.1 million more than Petrino was making). Purdue would be wise to double that offer up to roughly $6.2 million per year PLUS increasing his staff salary pool up to $4.5-$5 million (up from $3.5 million).

I fully understand that is an inordinate amount of money at over $10 million annually. However, if Purdue wants to retain a coach they fully expect to be successful, it would be wise to make that commitment now when the biggest competition for Brohm is ahead of them rather than trying to locate another coach who can provide what Brohm already has.

Money is likely not Brohm's most significant factor...but it is likely in his top 3.

 

[PaBoiler78]

Tedfords only 53? Seems like he’s been coaching for that long

I 'm sorry, he just turned 57, Tiller was from out west so who knows, hopefully we don't have to deal w/ it.

 

[Bullwhip Griffith]

I 'm sorry, he just turned 57, Tiller was from out west so who knows, hopefully we don't have to deal w/ it.

I’m still surprised he’s only 57...just one of those coaches that seems to be around forever

 

[Chapman123]

Dino ain't leaving Syracuse for Purdue. Ain't happening

 

[indyogb]

If Brohm leaves (I am of the opinion that he will not) then I could see Leach as a real possibility though WSU will want to keep him. I do like the UNT coach and I doubt the ISU coach would be tempted to leave.

Lane Kiffen is looking for a P5 gig. He has an offense that would be attractive. Maybe he has grown up.

Why would Mike Leach leave WSU to come to Purdue? That's as much a 'lateral move' as Purdue -> Louisville, but minus the alma mater factor.

I think we'll probably go in a familiar "up and coming" G5 coach direction after Brohm leaves (assuming he does; which I do believe will be the case). At least our athletic department isn't pinching pennies quite so hard anymore, so we can (theoretically) be more competitive with other schools for the cream of the G5 crop this time. As always, I have to state that I have no inside information whatsoever, and this is just my opinion watching from the "cheap seats".

 

[Bullwhip Griffith]

Tedford is a west coaster who won’t likely want to come east.

True. Have a tough time seeing him come this far east.

That’s why l like the idea of Neal Brown (Kentucky guy) or Seth Littrell (has coached Midwest, east coast, Texas) or Barbers (been at Purdue once before like Joe)

 

[Staff4444]

Vegas is no longer taking bets for the next coach at Louisville

 

[PrintersRowBoiler]

all stepping stone schools, he's 57, we would make him comfortable, along w/ his offense, for 8 -10 yrs then he could retire

If that is his motive, why leave Cuse?

 

[Chapman123]

Why ?

Vegas is no longer taking bets for the next coach at Louisville

 

[PrintersRowBoiler]

When Brohm was hired I thought the one job that would pull him from Purdue is Louisville. I would feel the same way for Neal Brown at Kentucky. What happens when Stoops leaves Kentucky?

Purdue is in a tough situation. We hit gold with Tiller. If we want another lifer we probably need to be looking for someone like Sumlin. I also think you give someone like Holt a chance he might stick around. But the types of guys moving up to HC Purdue after a couple years somewhere else makes me believe they will do the same to us.

 

[PaBoiler78]

When Brohm was hired I thought the one job that would pull him from Purdue is Louisville. I would feel the same way for Neal Brown at Kentucky. What happens when Stoops leaves Kentucky?

Purdue is in a tough situation. We hit gold with Tiller. If we want another lifer we probably need to be looking for someone like Sumlin. I also think you give someone like Holt a chance he might stick around. But the types of guys moving up to HC Purdue after a couple years somewhere else makes me believe they will do the same to us.

agree on some things, that's why I believe maybe have to look at someone in his 50's. All the younger guys will use PU as a stepping stone elsewhere. The table is set here to some degree so get a gut in his 50's and have a nice 8 -10 yr run w/ him.

 

[KentuckyBoiler]

I think he will stay, so I am not playing this game right now.

 

[PaBoiler78]

If that is his motive, why leave Cuse?

well Cuse is a stepping stone destination.

 

[SDBoiler1]

IMO CJB will take the L-Ville job. There is way too many strings pulling him home. I also think and agree with previous posters that this can be a year to year distraction. I think MBob needs to put full court press on Dino Babers and maybe that will be enough to keep some of CJB recruits (R.Moore #4) to stay. Next coach must be an offensive guy to keep momentum going.

Once again, this is a very uninformed opinion.

In the Thursday afternoon press conference, Brohm said that any reports connecting his name and the Louisville opening are "completely false". Brohm said, when asked about Dan Dakich's tweet, "there's nothing to that".

Seems pretty unambiguous to me. On top of that, Bobinski, the Associate AD, and Mike Berghoff are all in Charleston, SC for the MBB tournament. They don't seem concerned about Brohm leaving. There are no credible reports of any recruits decommitting. So maybe, just maybe, all this BS from IU grad Dakich and the Louisville media and homers is completely bogus and Brohm isn't going anywhere?

 

[bonefish1]

agree on some things, that's why I believe maybe have to look at someone in his 50's. All the younger guys will use PU as a stepping stone elsewhere. The table is set here to some degree so get a gut in his 50's and have a nice 8 -10 yr run w/ him.

I disagree. I think P can be a destination job if the AD and Admin continue to support it financially. We'll be in the $4M range for the next coach so that gives MBob a lot of options.

 

[Purduemoe]

I think you go young, an offensive coach, with good recruiting skills. He will probably be poached again in a few years, but hopefully the momentum keeps growing. You go through a few of Those then maybe you get to someone who stays long term. We are not a destination job,and coaches on the way down are fools gold. Get someone who is one the way up, and hope they become attached.

 

[CardfbFanatic06]

I don't see why Babers would leave one Power 5 job for another unless the money is significantly better.

Seth Littrell is an attractive choice, and since he is literally an Okie from Muskogee, all the better.

Babers is looking to leave Syracuse. Someone that runs one of the Louisville boards said his agent reached out to Louisville after Petrino was fired (Ironically enough, right after Syracuse spanked us).

FWIW, he also said Brohm's agent has been out of town and has not been in contact with Brohm recently due to other obligations, so people like Dakich are just stirring the pot as usual.

 

[PaBoiler78]

Babers is looking to leave Syracuse. Someone that runs one of the Louisville boards said his agent reached out to Louisville after Petrino was fired (Ironically enough, right after Syracuse spanked us).

FWIW, he also said Brohm's agent has been out of town and has not been in contact with Brohm recently due to other obligations, so people like Dakich are just stirring the pot as usual.

thanks

 

[PaBoiler78]

I disagree. I think P can be a destination job if the AD and Admin continue to support it financially. We'll be in the $4M range for the next coach so that gives MBob a lot of options.

you said can be, right now it isn't

 

[cinboiler]

IMO CJB will take the L-Ville job. There is way too many strings pulling him home. I also think and agree with previous posters that this can be a year to year distraction. I think MBob needs to put full court press on Dino Babers and maybe that will be enough to keep some of CJB recruits (R.Moore #4) to stay. Next coach must be an offensive guy to keep momentum going.

IMO, this situation has been in the works at Louisville for some time. Friend of mine owns a lake house in KY and a large booster of Louisville who has a house on the lake also was telling him over a month ago this was going to happen. How can this happen without some kind of contact from Louisville to Brohm or his agent. Probably not a damn thing can be done. If he goes, I just hope the recruits he has signed up stay at Purdue and Moore stays also. Way better situation here with our facilities than before. Been great here this year with our attendance and exposure. Brohm has done a great job and will hate to lose him if he goes. I have faith in Daniels and MBOB.

 

[JohnnyDoeBoiler]

I think you go young, an offensive coach, with good recruiting skills. He will probably be poached again in a few years, but hopefully the momentum keeps growing. You go through a few of Those then maybe you get to someone who stays long term. We are not a destination job,and coaches on the way down are fools gold. Get someone who is one the way up, and hope they become attached.

That would be Tee Martin...although I think his stock has soured a bit after UT wouldn't give him a sniff and USC seems to be offensively challenged this season (95th in total offense).

My Personal Top Candidates:
1: Mike Norvell: Currently the HC at Memphis, Norvell has had good success with the Tigers and is known as a good recruiter in the AAC. Currently his class stands 47th in the 2019 rankings which places them first in the AAC. Memphis also has the #6 overall offense in the country this season.

2: Seth Littrell (HC North Texas): 40 years old and has had experience under Mike Leach, Kevin Wilson, and Mike Stoops. Currently has North Texas as the #11 passing offense in the country with a record of 22-16 at North Texas.

3: Major Applewhite (HC Houston): Another young and offensively minded coach, Applewhite is said to have burned his bridge to Texas while serving there as QB coach. Taking over at Tom Herman left, Applewhite has been able to sustain their success all while having the #12 overall passing attack in the country this season. Has served under Nick Saban, Tom Herman, Charlie Strong, and played QB at Texas from 1998-2001.

Stay away from Dino Babers (HC Syracuse): An innovative offense mind that came to the forefront with his 'Falcon Fast' offense at BGSU, Babers has seemed to struggle to recruit to Syracuse BUT has gotten a lot out of the players that he does have. Going historically, their classes were: 43, 53, 54, 56, 52, 49, 48, 78, 75, 66, 73, 51, 60, 54, 58, 64. Babers appears to be about what Syracuse has historically at Syracuse and does not push the needle forward for them recruiting wise traditionally speaking. I think Babers would not be a bad hire BUT Purdue would not see much increase from where the program is currently UNLESS Syracuse is just that hard to recruit to. I'd go with proven recruiters AND offensive minds like the 3 I listed above.

 

[bonefish1]

IMO, this situation has been in the works at Louisville for some time. Friend of mine owns a lake house in KY and a large booster of Louisville who has a house on the lake also was telling him over a month ago this was going to happen. How can this happen without some kind of contact from Louisville to Brohm or his agent. Probably not a damn thing can be done. If he goes, I just hope the recruits he has signed up stay at Purdue and Moore stays also. Way better situation here with our facilities than before. Been great here this year with our attendance and exposure. Brohm has done a great job and will hate to lose him if he goes. I have faith in Daniels and MBOB.

There might not be any 'official' conversations taking place but you can bet there are some back room discussions and phone calls taking place.

 

[bonefish1]

That would be Tee Martin...although I think his stock has soured a bit after UT wouldn't give him a sniff and USC seems to be offensively challenged this season (95th in total offense).

My Personal Top Candidates:
1: Mike Norvell: Currently the HC at Memphis, Norvell has had good success with the Tigers and is known as a good recruiter in the AAC. Currently his class stands 47th in the 2019 rankings which places them first in the AAC. Memphis also has the #6 overall offense in the country this season.

2: Seth Littrell (HC North Texas): 40 years old and has had experience under Mike Leach, Kevin Wilson, and Mike Stoops. Currently has North Texas as the #11 passing offense in the country with a record of 22-16 at North Texas.

3: Major Applewhite (HC Houston): Another young and offensively minded coach, Applewhite is said to have burned his bridge to Texas while serving there as QB coach. Taking over at Tom Herman left, Applewhite has been able to sustain their success all while having the #12 overall passing attack in the country this season. Has served under Nick Saban, Tom Herman, Charlie Strong, and played QB at Texas from 1998-2001.

Stay away from Dino Babers (HC Syracuse): An innovative offense mind that came to the forefront with his 'Falcon Fast' offense at BGSU, Babers has seemed to struggle to recruit to Syracuse BUT has gotten a lot out of the players that he does have. Going historically, their classes were: 43, 53, 54, 56, 52, 49, 48, 78, 75, 66, 73, 51, 60, 54, 58, 64. Babers appears to be about what Syracuse has historically at Syracuse and does not push the needle forward for them recruiting wise traditionally speaking. I think Babers would not be a bad hire BUT Purdue would not see much increase from where the program is currently UNLESS Syracuse is just that hard to recruit to. I'd go with proven recruiters AND offensive minds like the 3 I listed above.

Good analysis. I think Applewhite is intriguing. I like guys who played and coached at big time programs and under big name coaches. Plus, Purdue used to do really well recruiting TX.

 

[denpesc]

All this would be interesting if it wasn’t for the fact Brohm isn’t leaving. Instead, it’s just mental masturbation.

 

[Purduemoe]

That would be Tee Martin...although I think his stock has soured a bit after UT wouldn't give him a sniff and USC seems to be offensively challenged this season (95th in total offense).

My Personal Top Candidates:
1: Mike Norvell: Currently the HC at Memphis, Norvell has had good success with the Tigers and is known as a good recruiter in the AAC. Currently his class stands 47th in the 2019 rankings which places them first in the AAC. Memphis also has the #6 overall offense in the country this season.

2: Seth Littrell (HC North Texas): 40 years old and has had experience under Mike Leach, Kevin Wilson, and Mike Stoops. Currently has North Texas as the #11 passing offense in the country with a record of 22-16 at North Texas.

3: Major Applewhite (HC Houston): Another young and offensively minded coach, Applewhite is said to have burned his bridge to Texas while serving there as QB coach. Taking over at Tom Herman left, Applewhite has been able to sustain their success all while having the #12 overall passing attack in the country this season. Has served under Nick Saban, Tom Herman, Charlie Strong, and played QB at Texas from 1998-2001.

Stay away from Dino Babers (HC Syracuse): An innovative offense mind that came to the forefront with his 'Falcon Fast' offense at BGSU, Babers has seemed to struggle to recruit to Syracuse BUT has gotten a lot out of the players that he does have. Going historically, their classes were: 43, 53, 54, 56, 52, 49, 48, 78, 75, 66, 73, 51, 60, 54, 58, 64. Babers appears to be about what Syracuse has historically at Syracuse and does not push the needle forward for them recruiting wise traditionally speaking. I think Babers would not be a bad hire BUT Purdue would not see much increase from where the program is currently UNLESS Syracuse is just that hard to recruit to. I'd go with proven recruiters AND offensive minds like the 3 I listed above.

I like Litteral and Applewhite a lot, not sure Applewhite would come however. Norvell scares me. Tee is very interesting, I think he got scapegoated like Brohm did at Louisville.