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Getting that strong vibe reading their board as well. If they lose it has nothing to do with the other team. Especially not to a team like (hold your nose up in the air while you say it)... Purdue! I imagine most of these guys weren't crediting O'Connell for his accuracy and poise on the game winning drive 2 years ago when he came in cold after the Plummer injury or giving credit to Brohm for the perfect play call on the pitch to Bell for the game winner.
That phenomenon is the worst no matter who it comes from. But especially from some C&C music factory wanna be blue blood…

You do realize these people think don johnson is 35 years old right?

and I love how old boy is like “who me??” Lol
 
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What the hell are you talking about? How am I being smug?

Statistically speaking, Nebraska's numbers look like a 6-2 team on paper. I highlighted those stats. But they're not. They're 3-5.

In fact, Nebraska is breaking the ESPN FPI computer for this very reason. Because the algorithms can't comprehend how a team like Nebraska can lose so many games when they have like a 95% chance to win games with 5 minutes remaining.

All I'm saying is I think it's funny that you guys are spending so much time talking about matchups. Nebraska in 2021 really has nothing to do with any of that shit.

They need an input on loser mentality, which is what Nebraska has.
 
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I don't give a shit about the #24 or the #30. Within the context of a teams value, being top 25 or top 30 out of 128 teams is good. It's not elite. But for a team to be good yards per play and defensive yards per play, while also being plus one in turnovers, it's difficult to be a losing team so that point.

Unless you a are a complete dumpster fire on special teams... which Nebraska is indeed.

That's my whole point.
Every team has a weakness. For Nebraska it is special teams. For Purdue it is running the football. Those are both important components of football. We can sit here and say if Purdue was #110 in the country in rushing offense instead of #124, we might be undefeated right now. And you know what, that's probably not too far from the truth. It doesn't mean discussing matchups isn't relevant.
 
Every team has a weakness. For Nebraska it is special teams. For Purdue it is running the football. Those are both important components of football. We can sit here and say if Purdue was #110 in the country in rushing offense instead of #124, we might be undefeated right now. And you know what, that's probably not too far from the truth. It doesn't mean discussing matchups isn't relevant.
It isn’t relevant if you think it’s 1994 and your subconscious mind is telling you “Purdue can’t match up with us anyway.”
 
I’m not a gambler buddahaw.. just if you win I’ll say it’s because Nebraska played well. If we win don’t start with this “oh it’s just frost and if we get a real coach we will beat Purdue like it was the Osborne days”
Osborne days are long gone. I lot of our fan base would be happy with 8-9 wins a year (at least for awhile). Our University Leadership has royally screwed Nebraska over the years. The Scott Frost thing hasn't worked out in our favor, but at least for once it was someone the whole fanbase was behind and was a hot name. Callahan & Riley were just awful hires and Pelini people were behind, but probably should have looked for someone more dynamic.

If Purdue wins it is because they deserved it. We've stepped on our dick a lot and I do feel that we've had like 3 losses where we are the better team, but that doesn't matter. If you lose, you lose and that means the other team did a lot of stuff right.

At the end of the day Nebraska's glory days have run their course and we don't have any room to run our mouth about an opponent being inferior as we are those guys a lot of times. We are very similar to Indiana Basketball except I think our fans have actually accepted our mediocrity a lot more than IU fans.
 
Which is funny because you yourself excluded yards per play for Nebraska defense (which you claim is an important stat) because it was less favorable. Nebraska is #30. Purdue is #24. The same reason you included total yardage, which you claim is less important, for the Nebraska offense but excluded it for the Nebraska defense. Again, to bury the one that was less flattering. At least be consistent.

And let's just say the bold statement is debatable to begin with. At the end of the day, the stat that matters is points on the scoreboard. Yet that can be skewed by field position, special teams, turnovers, etc. IMO yardage and red zone efficiency are the next most important stats, which account for those variances and complete the total picture of how well the defense is preventing points on the board. Yards per play is nice too but can be skewed by big plays and scheme.

I don't think Nebraska has a poor defense, but to hide the inconvenient stats and cast them as unimportant (in an inconsistent and obvious cherry pick move) is disingenuous. The overall numbers show that opponents have moved the ball fairly well against Nebraska and scored at a decent but not great pace.

You want to talk about worthless stats? Let's start with yards per completion (vs. attempt).
I would agree to a certain extent with your analysis of our D. A 40,000 ft look game by game:

Illinois - We dominated for a quarter and they couldn't move it, but after a bunch of special team and Martinez errors they moved it pretty well and won the game

Buffalo / Fordam - Ehh.. Are what they are.

Oklahoma - I know they are probably overrated, but they had 3 major drives and two were heavily aided by officiating, but they still got some yards, but we stiffened in the red zone.

MSU - Had a flea Flicker and 1 other decent drive, but got zero yards in the second half and were thoroughly dominated by our D.

NW - Not a good team, but our D ate them up outside of one blown coverage

Michigan - Moved the ball. We got some key stops, but I will say they did pile up some yards with their bigger back. If Horvath was playing I'd be nervous about your run game. That kid is big and runs hard and we seem to not always handle that well

Minnesota - 1st half was ugly. Second half we got a ton of stops, but just ran out of gas and were selling out and they ripped off some big runs.
 
Osborne days are long gone. I lot of our fan base would be happy with 8-9 wins a year (at least for awhile). Our University Leadership has royally screwed Nebraska over the years. The Scott Frost thing hasn't worked out in our favor, but at least for once it was someone the whole fanbase was behind and was a hot name. Callahan & Riley were just awful hires and Pelini people were behind, but probably should have looked for someone more dynamic.

If Purdue wins it is because they deserved it. We've stepped on our dick a lot and I do feel that we've had like 3 losses where we are the better team, but that doesn't matter. If you lose, you lose and that means the other team did a lot of stuff right.

At the end of the day Nebraska's glory days have run their course and we don't have any room to run our mouth about an opponent being inferior as we are those guys a lot of times. We are very similar to Indiana Basketball except I think our fans have actually accepted our mediocrity a lot more than IU fans.
You’d have to agree there are a lot of Nebraska fans who don’t think like you do. And what a lot of them need is just someone to explain to them that what the fans and the rest of this conference want.. is for Nebraska fans to take the attitude, since they aren’t Ohio state, that “yeah, it’s tough to win in this league,” and If that was the perception, most would wish them as well as anyone else.

You seem to get this. unfortunately I don’t think most Nebraska fans get this
 
I would agree to a certain extent with your analysis of our D. A 40,000 ft look game by game:

Illinois - We dominated for a quarter and they couldn't move it, but after a bunch of special team and Martinez errors they moved it pretty well and won the game

Buffalo / Fordam - Ehh.. Are what they are.

Oklahoma - I know they are probably overrated, but they had 3 major drives and two were heavily aided by officiating, but they still got some yards, but we stiffened in the red zone.

MSU - Had a flea Flicker and 1 other decent drive, but got zero yards in the second half and were thoroughly dominated by our D.

NW - Not a good team, but our D ate them up outside of one blown coverage

Michigan - Moved the ball. We got some key stops, but I will say they did pile up some yards with their bigger back. If Horvath was playing I'd be nervous about your run game. That kid is big and runs hard and we seem to not always handle that well

Minnesota - 1st half was ugly. Second half we got a ton of stops, but just ran out of gas and were selling out and they ripped off some big runs.
Red zone defense could be a huge factor in this game. Purdue has struggled in the red zone in all but 3 games.
With respect to the other poster, once you factor Purdue into the equation, Nebraska ST isn't the main factor in this game. The Huskers could turn the ball over twice on special teams and miss every FG, but if they can hold Purdue to FG's in the red zone they will probably win anyway. But if Purdue can break through and find a formula to the end zone like they did against Iowa and Oregon St it might not matter either.
 
Osborne days are long gone. I lot of our fan base would be happy with 8-9 wins a year (at least for awhile). Our University Leadership has royally screwed Nebraska over the years. The Scott Frost thing hasn't worked out in our favor, but at least for once it was someone the whole fanbase was behind and was a hot name. Callahan & Riley were just awful hires and Pelini people were behind, but probably should have looked for someone more dynamic.

If Purdue wins it is because they deserved it. We've stepped on our dick a lot and I do feel that we've had like 3 losses where we are the better team, but that doesn't matter. If you lose, you lose and that means the other team did a lot of stuff right.

At the end of the day Nebraska's glory days have run their course and we don't have any room to run our mouth about an opponent being inferior as we are those guys a lot of times. We are very similar to Indiana Basketball except I think our fans have actually accepted our mediocrity a lot more than IU fans.
Just posting some additional thoughts here, not trying to "pile on", or anything like that.

I think where you (Nebraska fans) lose a lot of "sympathy" is with the way the admin has handled (treated?) your program (i.e., coaches) in the past.

Osborne's successor (and Nebraska's own) Frank Solich routinely won 9-12 games a year (had one year out of 6 where he "only" won 7). Played in the Rose Bowl (National Championship game) January, 2002, and was fired November, 2003, after (again) winning 9 games, and getting as high as 10th in the nation.

Bo Pelini never won fewer than 9 games a year for seven . straight . years.

That, alone, makes a lot of people shake their collective heads and question, "what the h*ll is going on there?"
 
Just posting some additional thoughts here, not trying to "pile on", or anything like that.

I think where you (Nebraska fans) lose a lot of "sympathy" is with the way the admin has handled (treated?) your program (i.e., coaches) in the past.

Osborne's successor (and Nebraska's own) Frank Solich routinely won 9-12 games a year (had one year out of 6 where he "only" won 7). Played in the Rose Bowl (National Championship game) January, 2002, and was fired November, 2003, after (again) winning 9 games, and getting as high as 10th in the nation.

Bo Pelini never won fewer than 9 games a year for seven . straight . years.

That, alone, makes a lot of people shake their collective heads and question, "what the h*ll is going on there?"
It’s a lot deeper than that. Pelini looks decent but if you dive into the losses and recruiting you’d sing a different tune. I think the Big 10 has also got better
 
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Yep. Good for Purdue. Played a good game on D and made bad Adrian come out. Good victory.
I don’t know why this is easy for you and not easy for 99.9% of your fans. Wisconsin beat us cause they were better and played better.

crapping of pants happens.. that’s like Minnesota losing to bowling green
 
Been over to the Cornpopper's board since the game. Their fans are truly to B1G FB as IU's fans are to B1G BB. Somebody claimed yesterday that you have ro look at the last 75 years to determine if one is still a BlueBlood not just the last 20.
 
Been over to the Cornpopper's board since the game. Their fans are truly to B1G FB as IU's fans are to B1G BB. Somebody claimed yesterday that you have ro look at the last 75 years to determine if one is still a BlueBlood not just the last 20.
That person is living in denial. Most realize they are going nowhere and trending down. I hope they keep Frost another year, but I doubt it can happen at this point. At some point, they'll get the right coach and turn the corner.
 
That person is living in denial. Most realize they are going nowhere and trending down. I hope they keep Frost another year, but I doubt it can happen at this point. At some point, they'll get the right coach and turn the corner.
Maybe they’ll hire Gary Patterson?
 
Been over to the Cornpopper's board since the game. Their fans are truly to B1G FB as IU's fans are to B1G BB. Somebody claimed yesterday that you have ro look at the last 75 years to determine if one is still a BlueBlood not just the last 20.
Well in that case Minnesota and Army are blue bloods too.
 
Maybe they’ll hire Gary Patterson?
Haven't followed TCU other than I know for a decade he was a rock solid coach and won a load of games + bowls.
In-roads to Texas = established. Gives both Neb & Gary Patterson renewed energy for 4-5 years. If he hasn't done anything wrong off the field (I haven't followed him), then it would make a lot of sense.
 
Haven't followed TCU other than I know for a decade he was a rock solid coach and won a load of games + bowls.
In-roads to Texas = established. Gives both Neb & Gary Patterson renewed energy for 4-5 years. If he hasn't done anything wrong off the field (I haven't followed him), then it would make a lot of sense.

Other than Nebraska is better than hiring him (blue bloods!). Glad they went back to the glory days with the Frost hire.
A player who played for the legendary coach and won a title, crashed and burned after being pretty awesome at UCF.

Don't tell IU... LOL
 
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