My Cure (such as it is) for the NIL and Rampant Transfers

[FLBoiler75]

OK, I admit I know just about what every other college football fan knows about the NIL and the transfers rules. However, could the following work. Why or why not?

(1) All players sign a 4 year contract. Treat them like what they are - employees.
(2) All players get a base salary/stipend (identical for all players) plus bonuses for the best players (depending on actual production not potential).
(2) No transfers until a 30 day period after the last bowl game is played to give a level playing field to all college teams.
(3) Player option to opt out of the contract after 2 years and 3 years or if the head coach or his position coach leaves or is fired.
(4) Coach has the option to release any player after 2 or 3 years.

Also, I don't care if they are working toward a degree or even taking any classes. College football has become the minor leagues for the NFL so we might as well accept it and treat it like that.

OK, everybody. Tear into it. Tell me why this would not work.

 

[POTFHBTFU]

OK, I admit I know just about what every other college football fan knows about the NIL and the transfers rules. However, could the following work. Why or why not?

(1) All players sign a 4 year contract. Treat them like what they are - employees.
(2) All players get a base salary/stipend (identical for all players) plus bonuses for the best players (depending on actual production not potential).
(2) No transfers until a 30 day period after the last bowl game is played to give a level playing field to all college teams.
(3) Player option to opt out of the contract after 2 years and 3 years or if the head coach or his position coach leaves or is fired.
(4) Coach has the option to release any player after 2 or 3 years.

Also, I don't care if they are working toward a degree or even taking any classes. College football has become the minor leagues for the NFL so we might as well accept it and treat it like that.

OK, everybody. Tear into it. Tell me why this would not work.

The only issue is signing to a contract would open the door for collective bargaining. It may go that way anyways and then that would be fine. I think If you release a player you give them the option of getting a degree if they choose. I don’t like the idea of a kid going to college and then getting kicked out because they were recruited over. That might be 10% but I’d rather reward that 10% then the 90% who could care less anbout academics. Otherwise I think everything you say here makes all the sense in the world.

 

[awthomps]

The only issue is signing to a contract would open the door for collective bargaining. It may go that way anyways and then that would be fine. I think If you release a player you give them the option of getting a degree if they choose. I don’t like the idea of a kid going to college and then getting kicked out because they were recruited over. That might be 10% but I’d rather reward that 10% then the 90% who could care less anbout academics. Otherwise I think everything you say here makes all the sense in the world.

They’ll have collective bargaining as soon as the cases get through court appeals.

 

[New Pal Boiler]

(2) No transfers until a 30 day period after the last bowl game is played to give a level playing field to all college teams

Problem with this is you are well into the second semester at this point. If the players are still “student athletes “, that is…

 

[Woodsa]

The only issue is signing to a contract would open the door for collective bargaining. It may go that way anyways and then that would be fine. I think If you release a player you give them the option of getting a degree if they choose. I don’t like the idea of a kid going to college and then getting kicked out because they were recruited over. That might be 10% but I’d rather reward that 10% then the 90% who could care less anbout academics. Otherwise I think everything you say here makes all the sense in the

The only issue is signing to a contract would open the door for collective bargaining. It may go that way anyways and then that would be fine. I think If you release a player you give them the option of getting a degree if they choose. I don’t like the idea of a kid going to college and then getting kicked out because they were recruited over. That might be 10% but I’d rather reward that 10% then the 90% who could care less anbout academics. Otherwise I think everything you say here makes all the sense in the world.

I'm okay with kids not getting a college degree as it is part of the job. They can go to college like anyone else and pay for it if it's important to them.

 

[Tommaker]

I'm okay with kids not getting a college degree as it is part of the job. They can go to college like anyone else and pay for it if it's important to them.

I don't disagree with your statement, but I get queasy just reading it and realize I'm being driven further and further from the sport. That will come to a head when the reports of NFL players who can't read or right are identified with major Universities.

 

[KentuckyBoiler]

I don't disagree with your statement, but I get queasy just reading it and realize I'm being driven further and further from the sport. That will come to a head when the reports of NFL players who can't read or right are identified with major Universities.

I think we have multiple ones in the NFL already. This might just increase the numbers significantly.

One thing that colleges should be teaching athletes, whether you go onto the NFL, or not is how to manage finances. There are too many stories of athletes that made millions of dollars and ran through it all. Financial management should be a requirement.

 

[msfboiler3]

They’ll have collective bargaining as soon as the cases get through court appeals.

Its gotta happen. Wild west right now.

 

[msfboiler3]

I think we have multiple ones in the NFL already. This might just increase the numbers significantly.

One thing that colleges should be teaching athletes, whether you go onto the NFL, or not is how to manage finances. There are too many stories of athletes that made millions of dollars and ran through it all. Financial management should be a requirement.

THis wont hapoen but i would be in favor of setting up accounts payable at 27 with some max amount as part of the nil structure. Problem right now is that each player is essentially an indepedent contractor and theres no way to move forward without a collective bargaining agreement.

 

[Thordog]

I think a multi-year player contract is inevitable. I think a 3-4 year contract would work best, but provide some situations where a player can transfer (i.e. head coach left, graduating, but not going in NFL etc). Have a progress towards degree requirement. These organizations are in the higher education business after all. Contracts could lead to other issues. will college sports see trades and trade deadlines?

The revenue sharing is an agreed amount so that is a start. I think NIL collectives should have a cap to it per university, sport, player. A cap will level the field, but give each team the flexibility how to allocate the monies.

Place severe penalties for tampering on the university and include the agents. (agents could be a whole separate topic) Tampering could be hard to prove, but it's happening.

 

[RowdyB]

Problem with this is you are well into the second semester at this point. If the players are still “student athletes “, that is…

Simple solution is to just remove spring practice from the agenda, and add a 2 week mini-cap at the start of the Summer (likely early June). Open the portal in February. They're still allowed to train on campus until the semester ends at all programs, although loose the use of the training staff once they officially transfer. Heck they're making $ now, they can afford to hire a personal trainer at this point, as most NFL players likely do in the off-season.

I also think once the judgement is decided on profit sharing, it opens the door to a CBA and multi-year contracts that have some teeth. Leave Purdue after you sign a 2 year deal, and you have to play those two years. You want to transfer, you have to sit through the rest of your contract, then you're free to leave. Trades could become a thing as well, and probably should be. If our backup QB that's under contract wants to leave, we should be able to get an equitable player, or compensation to use on said player, in return.

 

[New Pal Boiler]

Simple solution is to just remove spring practice from the agenda, and add a 2 week mini-cap at the start of the Summer (likely early June). Open the portal in February. They're still allowed to train on campus until the semester ends at all programs, although loose the use of the training staff once they officially transfer. Heck they're making $ now, they can afford to hire a personal trainer at this point, as most NFL players likely do in the off-season.

I also think once the judgement is decided on profit sharing, it opens the door to a CBA and multi-year contracts that have some teeth. Leave Purdue after you sign a 2 year deal, and you have to play those two years. You want to transfer, you have to sit through the rest of your contract, then you're free to leave. Trades could become a thing as well, and probably should be. If our backup QB that's under contract wants to leave, we should be able to get an equitable player, or compensation to use on said player, in return.

How would you transfer in the middle of the 2nd semester? Assuming the athletes are still in school.

 

[RowdyB]

How would you transfer in the middle of the 2nd semester? Assuming the athletes are still in school.

You wouldn't. Would just wait for the end of the semester, as a typical student. The transfer, or commitment, could be facilitated without having to leave the current school immediately.

As I said, they have $ now, they can separate themselves from the program and still hire the training needed to go into Summer camp. What do NFL draftees do when they want to finish their degrees? They get drafted (transfer) in April, graduate in May, then join the team for their OTAs and Summer mini camps. Should be the same thing here IMHO. Maybe you simply push the transfer date back to April for all, which would make more sense. Once you eliminate Spring practice, there's really no need for a player to be on their new campus until Summer anyway.

 

[New Pal Boiler]

You wouldn't. Would just wait for the end of the semester, as a typical student. The transfer, or commitment, could be facilitated without having to leave the current school immediately.

As I said, they have $ now, they can separate themselves from the program and still hire the training needed to go into Summer camp. What do NFL draftees do when they want to finish their degrees? They get drafted (transfer) in April, graduate in May, then join the team for their OTAs and Summer mini camps. Should be the same thing here IMHO. Maybe you simply push the transfer date back to April for all, which would make more sense. Once you eliminate Spring practice, there's really no need for a player to be on their new campus until Summer anyway.

Got it. Makes sense, at least more sense than what’s happening now.

 

[Bippus33]

Got it. Makes sense, at least more sense than what’s happening now.

If players won't need to be students why not start a new league that isn't affiliated with Universities at all.... we already see NFL types, leaking into the college system and we know why.....

 

[Tommaker]

and include the agents. (agents could be a whole separate topic

one of the coaches was talking about how its now done. The agent contacts the school and says "I can get this guy for $150K." School says "ok". Agent then goes to second school and says "I can get (same guy) for $200K". Second school says "Ok". Agent now goes to the player and says "If you enter the portal I can get you $200K", player enters the portal and joins that school without violating the player "having" an agent. And now the players are upping their demands. One of the Tejas RB wants all expenses paid for 10 people for away game travel, FSU lineman insists they write in that he will play on all third down plays.....looking more and more like the sport is done.

 

[pboiler18]

one of the coaches was talking about how its now done. The agent contacts the school and says "I can get this guy for $150K." School says "ok". Agent then goes to second school and says "I can get (same guy) for $200K". Second school says "Ok". Agent now goes to the player and says "If you enter the portal I can get you $200K", player enters the portal and joins that school without violating the player "having" an agent. And now the players are upping their demands. One of the Tejas RB wants all expenses paid for 10 people for away game travel, FSU lineman insists they write in that he will play on all third down plays.....looking more and more like the sport is done.

Why not ask for it?

Some of these schools are so desperate to win they just might give it to you.

 

[ghostoffatjack]

My response would be tempered by not knowing how College Baseball works in this day and age. HS players could be drafted right out of HS by MLB, NFL never allowed and the NBA put in the 19 and 1 year removed from HS. MLB then had to wait until the players second year in college was completed instead of signing out of HS and then could be drafted again. They could then also leave after the third or fourth year. Is that still in play?

 

[Bippus33]

one of the coaches was talking about how its now done. The agent contacts the school and says "I can get this guy for $150K." School says "ok". Agent then goes to second school and says "I can get (same guy) for $200K". Second school says "Ok". Agent now goes to the player and says "If you enter the portal I can get you $200K", player enters the portal and joins that school without violating the player "having" an agent. And now the players are upping their demands. One of the Tejas RB wants all expenses paid for 10 people for away game travel, FSU lineman insists they write in that he will play on all third down plays.....looking more and more like the sport is done.

Sounds like something that was written into Cards contract.............?

 

[BoilerJS]

Sounds like something that was written into Cards contract.............?

I'm sure it can't happen because the NCAA has no teeth any more.
But I think a lot of this can be slowed down if the NCAA reinstates the 1 year sit out rule.
Exceptions would be for grad transfers and if your current coach was fired or left.