Blough is a 4th year senior who has started 20 games. He should know better by now.
My 2 cents on Blough and Sindelar
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Blough is a 4th year senior who has started 20 games. He should know better by now.
Seems that way doesn't it? With all we heard about this being #11's team, he misses a handful of practices and loses the start, then doesn't get a chance to "fix what he broke" as Drew would say in the 4th quarter.
I'm worried about the next two games if we don't have a starter in place receiving the lion's share of the first team work and game prep in practice. Drop the next two games, and you might as well start Sindelar the rest of the season because we'll be 0-4 after Michigan and playing for the future anyway.
Hopefully with better coaching Blough will learn. Brohm was sending the message by pulling him that if he does not learn, then someone else will be our guy.
19 of those games were under probably the worst coaching staff in FBS.
I'm not throwing the towel in on him yet. But he has to get better quickly.
And Brees as a sophmore threw for 3900 yards with 39 TDs. Also, Purdue was 9-4 (6-2) and beat #4 K-State in the Alamo Bowl.
But totally the same.
Sindelar is without a doubt our guy long term. He made some incredible throws that I don't think Blough has the ability to make, healthy or not. Sure Blough is better when the play breaks down, but why would we want that strength when Brohm is our play caller? Maybe that was a necessary strength with Hazell, but Brohm has a play call for any situation in the game and Sindelar is better able to execute it. A broken play is probably already a loss in Brohm's eyes. Just my two cents.
i hope the first game means we are getting better but a good first game isnt always an indicator for the season as you can see by the following.
The 1992 Purdue Boilermakers football team represented Purdue University during the 1992 NCAA Division I-A football season.They participated as members of the Big Ten Conference and played their home games at Ross–Ade Stadium in West Lafayette, Indiana. The team was coached by head coach Jim Colletto.
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Date Time Opponent Site TV Result Attendance
September 12 1:00 PM No. 17 California* Ross–Ade Stadium • West Lafayette, IN W 41–14 44,838
September 19 1:00 PM Toledo* Ross–Ade Stadium • West Lafayette, IN L 29–33 37,437
September 26 12:30 PM at No. 6 Notre Dame* Notre Dame Stadium • Notre Dame, IN (Shillelagh Trophy) NBC L 0–48 59,075
October 3 1:00 PM NorthwesternRoss–Ade Stadium • West Lafayette, IN L 14–28 39,812
October 10 1:00 PM Minnesota Ross–Ade Stadium • West Lafayette, IN W 24–20 30,935
October 17 1:05 PM at Wisconsin Camp Randall Stadium • Madison, WI L 16–19 73,573
October 24 1:05 PM at Iowa Kinnick Stadium • Iowa City, IA W 27–16 70,397
October 31 12:30 PM No. 3 Michigan Ross–Ade Stadium • West Lafayette, IN ESPN L 17–24 38,021
November 7 2:00 PM at Illinois Memorial Stadium • Champaign, IL (Purdue Cannon) L 17–20 55,339
November 14 1:00 PM at Michigan State Spartan Stadium • East Lansing, MI L 13–35 36,803
November 21 1:00 PM Indiana Ross–Ade Stadium • West Lafayette, IN (Old Oaken Bucket) W 13–10 56,338
*Non-conference game.Homecoming. #Rankings from AP Poll. All times are in Eastern Time.
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I was at that Cal game. They had a star RB. Was living in Mccutcheon Hall and was certain we were headed to Rose Bowl!!!
Ha ha
Nobody is calling Blough the second coming of Brees. But the one big knock on Drew after his sophomore season was protecting the ball. And he made a huge leap junior year once he corrected that.
It's so funny how bipolar this board is in terms of our QB. I get that there will always be a contingent who calls for the backup to get more minutes but to have such a wide opinion between Blough and Sindelar is pretty striking. Coming out of spring, some folks openly questioned on here if Sindelar was our 3rd string going into fall and whether might transfer. Now he's "unquestionably our future".
My chips are still behind Blough. Fortunately we finally have a coach who knows QBs better than this entire board combined. He will make the right call. I just hope it's soon.
I really don't want to have to debate who our quarterback is every time we have a 3 and out this season.
Thanks for pointing out Drew and Purdue's success that year. If you have any reading comprehension you'll notice that I said neither guy was Drew Brees but was pointing out that even Purdue's greatest had a tendency to throw it away more as an untested rookie than after he was seasoned. Thanks for the important assist though.
You pulled one stat from Brees first year as a starter to make a point that a 4th year senior 20 game starter was just going through growing pains. If Blough had 39 TDs to 20 ints with 3900 yards passing on a team with a decent record, we could be a bit more forgiving of his shortcomings.
At a certain point, you are what you are and Blough is TO prone with poor decision making and subpar accuracy.
And I am not assuming that you meant he was the second coming of Brees.
Cherry picking stats isn't making the argument that you think it is.
Developmentally Blough is behind Brees going into his second full season of starting compared to Brees' second full season. My point is that coaching could be as much to blame for that as anything. Drew made a huge jump from his first year to second year as a starter. I think Blough still has a chance now that he's got a decent coaching staff around him. He's literally played one half of football so far this season. He made one terrible play and one bad throw, but beyond that had better control of the offense than Sindelar IMO. The offense moved with Blough. Sindelar didn't play horrible but I feel his minutes in the 4th were more because of the message Brohm was giving Blough than it was Brohm thinking Sindelar was playing great. I bet we see a clear #1 after the Friday game. At least I hope so.
I not sure if anyone else had this experience watching the Boilers in person but this is what I saw...
A. A coach that will hold his QB`s accountable and if you throw into double coverage/turn the ball over , you will be on the bench and you won`t need to wear or carry your helmet around with you....JB and staff are all over our players in teaching and coaching. One no longer confuses the members of the coaching staff with that of the training staff
B. Blough gives us the best chance to win now because our line needs a QB that can move and Sindilar just doesn't have the mobility or the luxury of pocket protection.
C. U of L was one of the fastest college teams that I have seen in person for sometime but the our defense was rarely out of place the U of L players just flat ran away from our guys.
D. The stage was a little to large and the lights a little to bright for some of our receivers with the exception of Mono and Anth.Good news... Our QBs were doing a pretty good job in most cases putting the ball where it could be caught. Two drops truly cost us 10-14 points.
E. Special Teams needs some work and note to the kick off returners......Wake up and realize when the ball is going out of bounds!!!!!
Lastly...I`m not sure if anyone else had this problem but at times I really had difficulties analyzing the game from a "Purdue fans perspective" as Brohm has changed so many things and the effort that we are getting from the players is times 100 compared to before.
Boys and Girls..... we have us a Coach!!!
A. A coach that will hold his QB`s accountable and if you throw into double coverage/turn the ball over , you will be on the bench and you won`t need to wear or carry your helmet around with you....JB and staff are all over our players in teaching and coaching. One no longer confuses the members of the coaching staff with that of the training staff
B. Blough gives us the best chance to win now because our line needs a QB that can move and Sindilar just doesn't have the mobility or the luxury of pocket protection.
C. U of L was one of the fastest college teams that I have seen in person for sometime but the our defense was rarely out of place the U of L players just flat ran away from our guys.
D. The stage was a little to large and the lights a little to bright for some of our receivers with the exception of Mono and Anth.Good news... Our QBs were doing a pretty good job in most cases putting the ball where it could be caught. Two drops truly cost us 10-14 points.
E. Special Teams needs some work and note to the kick off returners......Wake up and realize when the ball is going out of bounds!!!!!
Lastly...I`m not sure if anyone else had this problem but at times I really had difficulties analyzing the game from a "Purdue fans perspective" as Brohm has changed so many things and the effort that we are getting from the players is times 100 compared to before.
Boys and Girls..... we have us a Coach!!!
All Blough has to do is accept that it's OK to throw the ball away instead of giving it to the other team. We've seen him throw the long ball with accuracy in the past. He doesn't have the velocity that Sindelar does but his accuracy is good enough. The thing you'll really key in on when Sindelar was in the game was that we hardly ran the ball at all. I believe that's because he doesn't have the full grasp of the offense unsurprisingly, and that he needed to be in shotgun to give him the time he needed to go through his progressions.
He also had a better first year as a full time starter outside the proclivity to throw ints. Again, I would be more bullish if Blough had put up better TD numbers and yards while throwing those ints.
I don't disagree
So your theory is that Brohm, a guy who has been shown to be a serious competitor and desperate to win, went with the worse player to send a message? In a game where we were in position to pull a HUGE upset?
Yes. I think Brohm was sending a message to Blough after that interception by benching him. Of course. Does he think Blough is better than Sindelar? No idea. But I believe Blough would've stayed in the game if the pick six doesn't happen. He was playing better than Sindelar up to that point.
And Brees was on a dramatically better talented team than Blough. And he's a dramatically better QB. So of course he had better overall stats. But he got much better his junior year. That's my point. QBs, properly coached, should get much better in their second season of starting. This is the season for Blough to get much better at protecting the ball or lose playing time.
We all know he had no business being on the field his freshman year thanks to the previous regime.
He's a junior. Junior year you should be making a huge leap from sophomore year. That's my point.
whether he should have been out there or not is irrelevant. Thats still 8 more games of starter prep and experience.
Being out there too early as a QB has ruined multiple of our QBs over the past 7-8 years. In a real program, Blough would just now be starting after Etling's graduation. But instead - due largely to incompetence in our coaching staff - he joined the long list of young QBs who were thrown to the wolves without time to learn a system, proper development, and a serviceable offensive line. Blough, for the first time, actually has a coaching staff who can develop him. I simply think deciding he has no future after missing most of fall practice with a new system and only one half of football seems short-sighted. I trust our staff is playing the longer hand here. And again, I ackowledge his need to improve. But I believe he has the coaching staff finally to help him get there.
The only thing that I would pin on the previous regime with regards to Blough is probably trying to do too much because of how awful we were in all facets of the game. But if he's going to win this staff over and prove he can lead this team, he has to take care of the ball and trust his other teammates to get the job done. It's one thing to take bad risks because of a sense of urgency, but it's another because you weren't conscious enough to make the smart play based on what you saw.
Comparisons to Brees and his progress are not quite fair because Drew wasn't running for his life and getting hit nearly as much as Blough has. If Blough had the Oline and receivers Drew had, he would be comparable to Painter at least.
I like the competition between the two QBs for now. And we haven't had an accurate thrower since Orton. Partly because of the Oline and receivers, but I'm surprised how many balls our receivers have to catch behind them, leap for, or otherwise make adjustments for.
I like the competition between the two QBs for now. And we haven't had an accurate thrower since Orton. Partly because of the Oline and receivers, but I'm surprised how many balls our receivers have to catch behind them, leap for, or otherwise make adjustments for.
So your theory is that Brohm, a guy who has been shown to be a serious competitor and desperate to win, went with the worse player to send a message? In a game where we were in position to pull a HUGE upset?[/QUOTE]
Sure he did......by mid way into the 3rd qtr, Brohm was playing with House Money.......no one expected to Purdue to be " In the game" at that point, not even Vegas?
*Bench the QB who turned the ball over twice.......Put the game back into the hands of the QB who started and show him that you are confident in him and let him know that he didn't totally stink up the place when he was in the game earlier.
*Show the entire team that no one is untouchable and that accountability is from top to bottom.
I thought Brohm played it perfectly and I thought he did a great job the two weeks prior to the game when he was forced to #2 ready.
The body language of the QB`s during the game told it all...Sindilar was not surprised that he got pulled and neither was Blough when he turned the ball over and at the same time Sindilar did not look like a shell when he went back in.....Just my two cents worth...
Just quoting the eed since your post didn't quote in a readable way.
You're saying that he had two similar options. The person I was quoting is saying that the difference between the 2 is very stark and Blough is much better.
In the scenario you laid out (which is much closer to what I believe to be reality) there isn't a big deal swapping the 2 back and forth.
They weren't all ruined. Two of them escaped and got major minutes at P5 schools after being Shooped.
Blough was 17-21 with two TDs at the point of his first interception against the 16th ranked team in the country. If we can get that Blough consistently, we will all be happy. Brohm pulled Blough for Sindelar who was nowhere near as efficient (10-21) to send a message. Blough is on the record saying that message was received loud and clear. I hope it was.
I think we will all know after OU how we are leaning because it doesn't sound like this two QB system is the long term plan - thank God.
I personally think Blough gives us a better chance to win if he protects the ball. Brohm may agree. Maybe not. I trust he knows much, much better than me. I'll support whoever gets the nod going into the Mizzou. Heck, I'll be at the game.
a serious question. I've read Sindelar can throw the ball farther and Blough is more mobile. I started watching the game after Phillips dropped a would be TD pass.
My question is about Blough. is his arm strength that weak that it would limit us to a short passing game? is it the fact he can't throw long, or that he can't throw long accurately. if 100% healthy, do you believe he could throw the long a Hail Mary pass, or when healthy, he is what he is ?
I ask this because I have to believe when brohm recruited all those receivers, he wanted to incorporate a long pass as part of our offense. if Blough can't throw a long pass, it doesn't matter how much experience he has or how mobile he is, we will need to either scrap our playbook (once more) or we will have to find a QB who can physically execute our plays.
I am now led to wonder what the arm strength of Sipe, Allstott, and Plummer is.
My question is about Blough. is his arm strength that weak that it would limit us to a short passing game? is it the fact he can't throw long, or that he can't throw long accurately. if 100% healthy, do you believe he could throw the long a Hail Mary pass, or when healthy, he is what he is ?
I ask this because I have to believe when brohm recruited all those receivers, he wanted to incorporate a long pass as part of our offense. if Blough can't throw a long pass, it doesn't matter how much experience he has or how mobile he is, we will need to either scrap our playbook (once more) or we will have to find a QB who can physically execute our plays.
I am now led to wonder what the arm strength of Sipe, Allstott, and Plummer is.
I believe the biggest difference in arm strength between the two is velocity more than distance. Blough has completed many long throws in his career here.
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Blough can't throw an out to the wide side with enough strength to be effective. Also has to put a lot more effort into medium and long throws that probably adds to his accuracy issues.
I have similar views. If Blough can clean up the silly picks, he'd be pretty damn good. All QBs throw picks. They just have to be at a reasonable quantity and amount of damage. The deep throw into double coverage was not smart but was effectively a short punt.
That pick six was devastating. It was also the result of horrible footwork leading to a pass way behind the receiver.
When your playing teams that can pump out the points like U of L.... any possession that is across the 50 has to have some points attached to it or very quickly your team is behind the Eight Ball.......
Agreed. In hindsight the second pick doesn't look so bad. Granted it was a high risk throw, a gamble better suited for 3rd and 15 than 2nd and 15, but nonetheless it was a calculated risk in a low leverage situation. It was followed by a 3-and-out by UL, followed by a Purdue touchdown. So it essentially just extended the scoring drive. Unfortunately it was right on the heels of the pick 6.
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