Painter is not terrible. He is definitely not a GREAT coach. This is not a terrible team, but they don't have a lot of room for error . . . bad shots, turnovers, lack of creativity. When you have an offensively challenged team, bad shots and turnovers are deadly. Our guards are spot-up shooters. Edwards (good player) is not very athletic. Everyone needs to realize we have a good team . . . just not great. When the NCAA tournament starts we have a chance, but without good guard play, we are limited. Sweet 16 would be a good accomplishment . . . even though we all want more.
Most disappointing Purdue team I can remember....
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He's not worth 2+ million that we are paying him. He better enjoy that contract, hopefully the next AD is smarter than that.
Looking back, I think we made this team out to be more than it is during the hot start in November and December.
This is a good Purdue team but not an elite one.
That said, I still think they can finish the regular season 24-7 (12-6), which would be the best regular season record in 5 years and continue the upward trajectory of the program.
This is a good Purdue team but not an elite one.
That said, I still think they can finish the regular season 24-7 (12-6), which would be the best regular season record in 5 years and continue the upward trajectory of the program.
I can recall the 1978 team with four year starters Jordan,Walls,and Parker,plus Junior Jerry Sichting and Soph Joe Barry Carroll that finished only 11 and 7 in the Big Ten.This team isn't that talented or experienced ,but they are puzzling and disappointing.
When you get practically zero from Edwards and Davis, Dakota hardly plays (why?), no Stephens, and Hammons played most of the game with his "don't give a sh*t attitude, it was amazing that we had a chance to win at the end.
That said, Painter has to share some of the blame here. His substitution patterns are hard to figure out at times. He is not good at in game adjustments, never has been. There explains a lot of why Purdue continually blows leads in the second half. The other coaching staff adjusts, ours doesn't.
That said, Painter has to share some of the blame here. His substitution patterns are hard to figure out at times. He is not good at in game adjustments, never has been. There explains a lot of why Purdue continually blows leads in the second half. The other coaching staff adjusts, ours doesn't.
I'm not sure why he didn't give Mathias more of Edwards minutes today. Edwards has been a no show the last 2 or 3 games.
Keep in mind: if I recall Fred Schaus was fired after that season and they brought in Lee Rose - who promptly took them to the FF.
And no this is not a Fire Painter thread.
I agree, but we will never consistently get 5 star recruits. We have to develop what we have, and I think Matt and staff have done only an okay job of development.
They have beat Pittsburgh on the road, and many other teams. They almost beat Maryland on the road (no one has done that)., they whipped on some other great teams as well. We have a great resume compared to lowly IU.
Haas played well when he was allowed to be in the game, you could see that AJ was trending bad and Haas was trending good (especially on the left shoulder turn shot), no one could stop him. Painter screwed up and thought that AJ would respond to being screamed at and cussed at, he does not respond well to that. He cannot take criticism. He is very weak in that regard, but , and this is a BIG BUT, AJ will hammer Bryant all day long, in fact, Bryant will pick up 2 quick fouls and the game will be all but OVA fellas, OVA, chalk it up (IU is awful vs. Purdue in the last 10 games --- i attribute this to Crappy Permatan Crean . He is just awful vs. us
Funny you waste your time with innocuous posts claiming troll-thumping but can't put together a meaningful post if you wanted to. Please just fall off the Black and Gold band-wagon and stay in the road while we come back around for the kill.
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Agree. Dang, you nailed it on the head, but it also had to do with a certain painter, and no where near a Rembrandt.
BBG are u Matt Painter himself? Because in your eyes he can do no wrong.
Having done a lot of coaching, the biggest mistake I made over the years was playing players based on my memories of all the great things they had done in the past .... and hoping they did them again.
Iowa, nw and penn state all lost by less points at Maryland than Purdue ...fyi
no question that Michigan should have been buried early and Purdue let Michigan's play early not be a major factor
No playmakers. None. Biggest problem with this team. Need a hot button guy. Most good teams have at least one, usually more.
And the 87/88 team was more disappointing by far.
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Fred Schaus left after the 78 season,and I think the cover story was that he resigned.I never really knew if he got fired,or resigned.
Maybe because he can't match up defensively with UM? You realize there are two phases of the game yes? I mean, do you actually think any of this through or just second guess everything? Hasn't scored well since his 24 against Minny, I guess we should sit him.
Yup. However, it looked like we were vindicated 10-15 games in. Maybe the competition was a lot worse than I thought, but wins over Florida and at Pitt seemed pretty good at the time.
It's really hard to win in college basketball without good play at the point. If only Octeus had another year of eligibility
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Long time ago of course but seems like he "retired" at the end of his contract.
PU never fires them. I should have stated that.
87/88 team won the B1G. Though the tourney was a disappointment, they lived up to season expectations
Vince Edwards is a playmaker (the best one on this team, IMO) but he hasn't been making shots the last few games. He can shoot his way out of it and it will help down the road if he continues to get quicker while also embracing and getting stronger at finishing through contact.
Yes he is. For crying out loud you are so clueless it's embarassing. He has Purdue going to the tourney and has a great PG coming in. Again, just shut up and stop embarassing Purdue.
We are so blessed to have an abundance of undefeated athletes and coaches posting on this board. I so appreciate the expert analysis and constructive criticism. Sure wish I'd had you guys around when I was 18-21 years old. I would have never lost a game!
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I agree with most. PG play has killed us at times, hill is not JO. with JO and PJ this team would have been a lot more solid. I have been pleasantly surprised how solid PJ has been. He is no magic Johnson but he has been fairly solid. AJ is AJ and I don't think any of his play has hurt us that bad. In the MSU game or first 6 turnovers were forcing it to the post. Turnovers are our number one problem which leads to apathy. Painters inflexibility as a coach to adjust or try a different offense will always keep him average. During the Robbie years it seemed that he made great half time adjustments. He has a better team now and better half time adjustments have been made by the opposing teams. Is he the coach he was 5 years ago????
I agree with most. PG play has killed us at times, hill is not JO. with JO and PJ this team would have been a lot more solid. I have been pleasantly surprised how solid PJ has been. He is no magic Johnson but he has been fairly solid. AJ is AJ and I don't think any of his play has hurt us that bad. In the MSU game or first 6 turnovers were forcing it to the post. Turnovers are our number one problem which leads to apathy. Painters inflexibility as a coach to adjust or try a different offense will always keep him average. During the Robbie years it seemed that he made great half time adjustments. He has a better team now and better half time adjustments have been made by the opposing teams. Is he the coach he was 5 years ago????
During Robbie's years we had 3 of the best scorers in the big ten and two of the best defenders. Not much need for coaching on that team
Any coach could of succeeded with those guys. If you don't realize that you are the dumb one here.
Not much coaching was displayed when we scored 4 points over the final 8 minutes yesterday.
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