Morgan Burke's legacy
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Flat-out not true. Inland Steel offered Burke about twice what he was making at Purdue. Purdue then upped his salary and he decided to stay. Same thing happened with Painter and Mizzou. Then we hired Hope and Haze at bargain-basement salaries.
This constipated penny-pinching DOES NOT WORK.
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Do you have some proof of that? It was actually President Beering who made the announcement on Oct 1, 1997 that Burke was leaving. If Beering wanted to keep Burke bad enough to double his salary wouldn't Beering have done that and not made the public announcement?
Joe Tiller's winning from 1997 through 2004 masked/excused what a lousy AD Burke was. Yes, much of the blame should be placed upon the BoT, especially the members that hired this unqualified bean counter back in 1992. The 4 presidents (including "acting" president Tim Sands) had a hand in it, but the guiltiest culprit is penny-pinching Captain Morgan, then the BoT.
Look at Purdue's highest Directors Cup ranking in the B1G over the past 24 years: 6th once (out of then 11 schools in the B1G), all other years our rankings weren't even close to middle of the pack. And don't get the idea that any Purdue alums or fans expects us to "win at all costs", because there have never been those absurd expectations here EVER! When has it ever been about "winning" with any us? Never, obviously.
What is unacceptable here is the "it's not important" attitude with these ignorant rubes. The "it doesn't matter" crowd has failed to understand that if Purdue athletics doesn't work hard to maximize our efforts to make up for low-ball spending, then we aren't even competing. And if we aren't competing, we all might as well stay home and save everyone a lot of money.
Tiller's fantastic first year. I heard this from people inside the athletic department at the time.
So you don't have a link for that. Hmmmm.
Well, I heard it from people inside the athletic department that at the time that Burke stayed because Purdue doubled his salary.
You could look up his salary and prove it.
Plus it doesn't make sense. The university skimps on coaches' salaries and facilities for decades, but just like that they double the AD's salary?
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Hazell is not on a low salary. Don't know if that makes his tenure look even worse, but we didn't lose all these games the past few years because of penny pinching. It was just that the hire turned out to be one of the worst coaches in the history of the b10.
Not many would have predicted that level of ineptitude. Still on Burke though.
Purdue has the fewest number of sports in the b10, so it's not surprising to finish middle of the pack at best in the directors cup.
Find me standings based only on the sports we actually have if you're going to use that metric to tout how inadequate our AD is.
No, "Norgan J. Murke", I'm not going to do that; if you haven't already realized that Purdue isn't even competitive in most of the sports that we do have, then you are either too obtuse or too ignorant to read and understand any metric.
ALSO, Purdue having the fewest number of sports in the B1G is in and of itself a metric, and NOT a good one either.
There are other ways to gauge success or failure: attendance at athletic events, marketing and promotions successes and failures, athletic booster club membership numbers, etc., etc. Try researching those and let me know how great the numbers are there.
The fact that he spent $12M on DH2 actually makes Burke look worse. At least if he went cheap again and failed, it wouldn't have disturbed the narrative that BoT was tying his hands. Given the chance to spend some money, he blew it even worse. His legacy includes both the cheapskate and inept labels.
No, "Norgan J. Murke", I'm not going to do that; if you haven't already realized that Purdue isn't even competitive in most of the sports that we do have, then you are either too obtuse or too ignorant to read and understand any metric.
ALSO, Purdue having the fewest number of sports in the B1G is in and of itself a metric, and NOT a good one either.
There are other ways to gauge success or failure: attendance at athletic events, marketing and promotions successes and failures, athletic booster club membership numbers, etc., etc. Try researching those and let me know how great the numbers are there.
The name-calling just makes you seem more crazy.
It seems that most people on here rip Burke for spending money on non-revenue sports. Now you're ripping the AD for not having more non-revenue sports?
Can you provide non-anecdotal info on any of those other metrics you bring up?
Who is "name-calling"? Apparently you fail to recognize that it isn't "name-calling" if it's true. You ARE obtuse, you've earned that all on your own. And you still aren't addressing the obvious when I say most of our athletic teams aren't even competing in their respective sports... ADDRESS THAT!!
Every school HAS to spend money on non-revenue sports; most of them have the good sense to take care of the revenue sports first to EARN money to pay for the non-revenue sports! NOT PURDUE THOUGH. :eye roll:
And NO, I am not "ripping the AD for not having more non-revenue sports"; if Purdue were a private school with a small enrollment, having the fewest sports in our conference would be understandable. But we are a PUBLIC, state supported FLAGSHIP UNIVERSITY with a large enrollment, and yet we aren't even competing in most of the few that we have, so having more sports would more than likely just add to the embarrassment and humiliation that is Purdue Athletics. So NO, I absolutely do not want more sports, neither revenue nor non-revenue.
The last item was your assignment, but since you want to drag your obtuse feet, I'll do it for you:
attendance FAILURE:
MORE attendance FAILURE:
https://purdue.forums.rivals.com/threads/how-are-season-ticket-sales-going.95904/page-3#post-1085843
marketing FAILURES:
Even Ron Swanson had something to say about both of them:
And lastly, John Purdue Club membership numbers:
https://purdue.forums.rivals.com/threads/how-are-season-ticket-sales-going.95904/page-3#post-1085873
Holy hell, that Pete is nightmare fuel of the highest order. His eyes are so close together he could wear a monocle.Who is "name-calling"? Apparently you fail to recognize that it isn't "name-calling" if it's true. You ARE obtuse, you've earned that all on your own. And you still aren't addressing the obvious when I say most of our athletic teams aren't even competing in their respective sports... ADDRESS THAT!!
Every school HAS to spend money on non-revenue sports; most of them have the good sense to take care of the revenue sports first to EARN money to pay for the non-revenue sports! NOT PURDUE THOUGH. :eye roll:
And NO, I am not "ripping the AD for not having more non-revenue sports"; if Purdue were a private school with a small enrollment, having the fewest sports in our conference would be understandable. But we are a PUBLIC, state supported FLAGSHIP UNIVERSITY with a large enrollment, and yet we aren't even competing in most of the few that we have, so having more sports would more than likely just add to the embarrassment and humiliation that is Purdue Athletics. So NO, I absolutely do not want more sports, neither revenue nor non-revenue.
The last item was your assignment, but since you want to drag your obtuse feet, I'll do it for you:
attendance FAILURE:
MORE attendance FAILURE:
https://purdue.forums.rivals.com/threads/how-are-season-ticket-sales-going.95904/page-3#post-1085843
marketing FAILURES:
Even Ron Swanson had something to say about both of them:
And lastly, John Purdue Club membership numbers:
https://purdue.forums.rivals.com/threads/how-are-season-ticket-sales-going.95904/page-3#post-1085873
You got that right, Prof Em! And the pen!s train is just as terrible.
You know I have a Purdue Astronaut as my avatar because Purdue CAN'T f*ck that up, can they? CAN THEY??!! Nevermind, forget that I asked...
http://www.purdueexponent.org/sports/football/article_ceea9bb4-6568-11e0-b484-001a4bcf6878.html
The Purdue Pete fiasco was one of Burke's great moments. New look Pete just got hammered at a game, perhaps it was the spring game. They had some poor student intern asking for feedback, and the fans were not happy. I felt sorry for the young lady.
I'm surprised Burke wasn't quoted in that story saying "It will be fun seeing if the critics of the new Pete are right or I am."
Who is "name-calling"? Apparently you fail to recognize that it isn't "name-calling" if it's true. You ARE obtuse, you've earned that all on your own. And you still aren't addressing the obvious when I say most of our athletic teams aren't even competing in their respective sports... ADDRESS THAT!!
Every school HAS to spend money on non-revenue sports; most of them have the good sense to take care of the revenue sports first to EARN money to pay for the non-revenue sports! NOT PURDUE THOUGH. :eye roll:
And NO, I am not "ripping the AD for not having more non-revenue sports"; if Purdue were a private school with a small enrollment, having the fewest sports in our conference would be understandable. But we are a PUBLIC, state supported FLAGSHIP UNIVERSITY with a large enrollment, and yet we aren't even competing in most of the few that we have, so having more sports would more than likely just add to the embarrassment and humiliation that is Purdue Athletics. So NO, I absolutely do not want more sports, neither revenue nor non-revenue.
The last item was your assignment, but since you want to drag your obtuse feet, I'll do it for you:
attendance FAILURE:
MORE attendance FAILURE:
https://purdue.forums.rivals.com/threads/how-are-season-ticket-sales-going.95904/page-3#post-1085843
marketing FAILURES:
Even Ron Swanson had something to say about both of them:
And lastly, John Purdue Club membership numbers:
https://purdue.forums.rivals.com/threads/how-are-season-ticket-sales-going.95904/page-3#post-1085873
Why do you think I'm arguing with you. I simply pointed out some flaws in the original metrics you used to judge our AD. Purdue isn't competing in a majority of sports right now. But the director's cup doesn't illustrate this the correct way.
Also, I'm not going to take time to research your claims. Those who make claims have the obligation of providing evidence for them. So mine was a sincere question - I don't know if I've ever known the numbers in JPC.
You are one touchy poster. Sweet graphics though.
So, not only are you obtuse, you also have a reading comprehension problem. I have provided quantifiable evidence that you are ignoring; there is no need to "research" my claims. In fact, the OP discusses how empty Ross-Ade Stadium is this past Saturday, do you have a math problem too?
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/subterfuge
Your previous post said that it was my duty to research your claims. I obviously saw that you provided links (albeit to a message board) to backup your claims. My comment was in general that you shouldn't have expected me to research them in the first place.
I think you need to bring it down a few notches. Are you this mad in real life?
Only when I can't get Purdue Basketball on the radio. LMFAO
https://purdue.forums.rivals.com/threads/more-evidence-of-our-ad-being-a-joke-under-burke.106981/
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