He's a little better recruiter than Painter but honestly, he's not any better of an in-game, strategic coach than CMP.
Malik Williams commits to Louisville
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He's a little better recruiter than Painter but honestly, he's not any better of an in-game, strategic coach than CMP.
suggesting a dirty recruitment goes both ways.
it's easy to always assume pitino is dirty, but that implies williams was willing to partake in that as well in order to commit.
if that is the recruit's character, i assume many would not want painter spending as much time and budget recruiting him in the first place, or accepting a commit at all?
it's easy to always assume pitino is dirty, but that implies williams was willing to partake in that as well in order to commit.
if that is the recruit's character, i assume many would not want painter spending as much time and budget recruiting him in the first place, or accepting a commit at all?
Cuonzo Martin's not deep into his coaching career yet not at a big program painters been at Purdue for 12 Seasons now give 12 Seasons the Martin at Purdue Watch What Happens
I do think that it IS possible for Pitino coaching staffs to get good players without cheating. He is actually a good in-game coach that will change things up when needed. However, he has a lot of history when it comes to lying and cheating (on his wife, among other things), so he has a sketchy reputation and reasons for others to not believe that he and his staffs are always on the up-and-up. I think he probably got Williams fair-and-square but there's always going to be doubt when Pitino's involved.
Darn! Stand a better chance recruiting kids for a few months rather than a few years, kids don't care to stay home anymore.
Mark my words at the end of both careers watch who has the better coaching career I guarantee you it will be Cuonzo Martin and Martin is a way better recruiter than painter
I honestly think it would be similar results. Both of their main coaching influences are Gene Keady, with a little bit of Bob Knight (game strategy-wise) mixed in with Painter.
Final Fours. National Championships. Top ranked recruiting classes. Number 1 draft picks. New arena. It would be basketball utopia without a doubt.
I believe he was also solely responsible for John Wooden playing at Purdue.
And yes Martin got bounced out in the first round this year just like painter differences is Martin's good players were freshmen painters good players were seniors
I'm pretty sure he also had something to do with Neil Armstrong getting to the moon.
Was Martin or was Martin not the lead recruiter for those kids in 07 answer the question was he or was he not
martin/painter for johnson and moore,
lusk/painter for hummel and martin
were the ones listed in the past
Just saying everybody is given pay her all the credit for the 07 class and that was not the case
This is one of the reasons I'm not a final four or bust thinker. If it happens great but it isn't as important as self respect.
If we were doing what Louisville has done, I would not brag about being a Louisville fan.
Swanigan didn't prove Einstein wrong, but he did demonstrate that Einstein's quote regularly gets taken out of context.
Is anybody really surprised that Williams committed to Louisville? Pitino is one of three active coaches with multiple national championships and Louisville has one of the richest athletic departments in the country. Painter is going to lose to him head to head more often than not. So is just about every other coach. At this point, Purdue is at a level where landing top 50 recruits is very difficult, but Swanigan is proof that it can be done. There just will be more misses than hits when targeting that level of recruit.
While Malik was not the only good player in the 2017 class, he was one of the most talented and one that everyone for quite some team deemed Purdue to be in the mix for with a great opportunity to get him...yet, in the end, just like in so many other cases (including every case this year), Painter and staff failed to land any of the nationally relevant players from the state...THAT is what is actually amazing...that year after year he and his staff can let elite national level players leave the state.
Caleb Swanigan was a Purdue fan and wanted to come to Purdue in middle school. Vince Edwards committed after Michigan quit recruiting him. Isaac Haas was stolen from UAB. Careen Edwards had decent offers but no other top notch ones. Those are Painters four most hyped recruits on this team. He didn't win any major battles to get them. What do you expect? He doesnt win over top 50 guys other than life long Purdue fan Swanigan, what other player has Painter stolen from a blue chip program?
You're leaving out the fact that Roosevelt Barnes is Biggie's stepfather. You don't think that helped at all? If you don't, you're in denial.
Sure, Purdue could start to become more of a destination, but I don't think it will with Painter. The idea of what Purdue basketball is (play hard, defense lives here, etc) is a culture that continues to be embedded and associated with Painter and Purdue.
Its a throwback, old school stigma that doesn't resonate as well with the style of the game today and top players.
Outside of Biggie, what major target (high 4 star or 5 star has Purdue landed? Zeller, Dawson, Chasson Randle, Gary Harris, Malik Williams, Keita Bates-Diop?
I do appreciate and think Purdue and Painter do really seem to be elevating their recruiting, so I'd love to be proven wrong, and I'll eat crow if I am, but I don't see it.
I didn't know Caleb was a senior last year? After all, he is the only 5* on the Purdue team, right? Seems like you mean Mathias, Edwards, and Cline were seniors too. Maybe you should follow the basketball team a little more closely.
I could've sworn we got the top two players in the state last year..... I get it though. We don't count those because they don't fit in your preposterous stance.
I didn't know Caleb was a senior last year? After all, he is the only 5* on the Purdue team, right? Seems like you mean Mathias, Edwards, and Cline were seniors too. Maybe you should follow the basketball team a little more closely.
Well it has been declared that we never land good in state players and I know Swanigan was from Indiana so thus it must be that he isn't any good.
Man how incredibly fortunate we are that those players just fell in out laps!
I see why you haven't posted in years. You haven't a clue how college basketball works, or have any sort of inkling of context or nuance. Please take a couple more years off.Haven't posted on here in years, but man, some things never change. Still the same people bickering and fighting to defend the honor of CMP.
I can't believe we're going into official visit season with zero commits, 5-6 open spots, and easily the deepest in-state class in a decade. Not only that, but in the last few days we've lost a major target, and couldn't even make the top 8 for two others. I knew the sudden barrage of 3-star-and-below offers the last two weeks wasn't a good sign.
It's been a full calendar year since our last commit, unless of course you count our steady influx of 5th and now 6th year players. Yikes. But, I'm sure that extension will start paying off any day now
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You sorta point out one thing that gets me with shall we say, the "have nots". They are quick to jump all over CMP when he doesn't get a recruit, but yet slow to give him any credit for the players he did get.
Haas and Vince turned out to be absolute studs and for the most part I think Painter does a great job of getting the talent he needs to be successful. And yes, contrary to some, he has been successful. Just not to the levels we all I think want to see...... yet.
Now that is not to say CMP hasn't made mistakes, he most certainly has. But ALL coaches do. And it is taking a bit longer than some like, but so far I think Painter is really starting to build a foundation for a very successful Program and something that could possibly be a long term thing. It's just not happening as fast as some would like.
That aside, I will say that if we make it to the NCAA tourney and flame out in the first round again I will start to take a much harder look at things from my own perspective. We have a pretty tough schedule I think and that should prepare us well for the tourney. Flaming out again will raise a red flag and while I won't jump on the fire Painter bandwagon, it will raise some concern.
Malik Williams was not the #1 priority. Definitely near the top, but to say flat out that he was #1 is just making shit up to fit a narrative. I think by all accounts Jaren Jackson has been the #1 priority for a while now. Hell, Painter flew to Europe to watch him play this summer. If that doesn't scream #1 priority I don't know what does.
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