I haven't seen a single logical rebuttal. Other than fear and emotion. Just scared at the thought he might be a step back, but you won't say it. He may take the program to new highs with a bigger program and conference. Some people are just afraid to open the green door and end up looking back with regret at missed opportunity.
When Haze was hired, I was very vocal and even castigated because I openly posted that he was a horrible hire, never having done anything on his own and because he was allowed to coach the bowl game thus ending recruiting for his first season. And I've never "acted" like PU would have no replacement...just that said replacement might be another Haze. Remember how everyone wanted Hope gone?
It was the style of play (an the results it led to) that doomed Crean. Faster faster faster, turnovers, crappy defense, limited player dev (other than Olidipo). That, and after-hours full of getting high, phony IDs, running over teammates. The train was off the rails for yrs.
Crean was fired because he missed the tourney two seasons in a row and the BOT was sick and f*@king tired of losing to Purdue.
Crean and Davis are just as good as Smart by your metrics, but mysteriously you won't address it.
I can’t speak for other PU fans or Painter supporters, but my continued support has to do with the potential (longer term than just the next 2-3 years) that I see in him. I understand the misgivings or belief he will not get appreciably better but reasonable minds can disagree.
I don't think Crean was let go because of his record. I think it had more to do with the number of people who found him personally offensive. There was, at times, an arrogance about how he dealt with other coaches and with his administration. Second, his players were not always "in control" shall we say.
I can’t speak for other PU fans or Painter supporters, but my continued support has to do with the potential (longer term than just the next 2-3 years) that I see in him. I understand the misgivings or belief he will not get appreciably better but reasonable minds can disagree.
That said, if the next 2-3 years are abysmal then I reserve the right to change my mind (which I suspect I would). He isn’t going anywhere regardless in the next couple years (though his seat could get warm) so I choose to try to enjoy what the team can offer (to the best of my ability). Call me a “settler” if you’d like, I won’t condemn you for it
I'll simplify. Pass on Shaka.
Who cares? Maybe? Crean was successful at IU, and he’s an idiot.
Thanks again for the thoughtful response. If the problem is the Purdue brand and W Laf, then a coaching shake up may not be enough. I'm honestly hoping we get some Brohm effect spillover to make us more attractive. I just don't think that Painter is the problem and I haven't found a better, and realistic, alternative. If you have all the insight and answers please share. I ended up loving the school and city but I sure did enjoy my trips to Ann Arbor, Columbus and Bloomington during college and understand why someone might find any of those locations much more appealing.
Painter wouldn’t have lasted 14 years at either school. He’d have been fired long ago.
No. Obviously Shaka Smart is the best Purdue could possibly hope to get. What an awesome vision.
You really have to have a man crush on Shaka.
I was really high on Painter after he brought in the baby boiler class too. hindsight is 20/20 but in a vacuum painters first several years were very exciting.
Bobinski hired Thad Matta at X I think. If he was healthy, I could see a motivation for him to stick it to O$U.
He is just 51 and shown he can recruit with Oden and Conley in state. He also has 2 Final Fours on his resume.
Matta would be interesting.
