Luke Ertel new Ranking
- Thread starter Blimpy
- Start date
He has blown up quickly with recent play. Well-deserved. That said, with Coach Painter's reputation now, I wonder how much of the rating surge is due to performance and how much could be from the fact he is coming to Purdue. There was a day that the latter didn't matter as much, but obviously it does now. Our program and it's recent history of developing players has impressed those Gods of Pinnacle Ratings.
Go Boilers!
Hell, there was a day that committing to Purdue saw your rating go down (I used to track that once upon a time). Now, I think Coach Painter gets the benefit of the doubt often.
He has been fantastic at numerous AAU events and other camps like thr NBA Top 100, or w.e its called, against elite competition. Completely owned Mullins in the Jr/Sr Indiana All-Star game.
I doubt it has anything to do with him going to Purdue and everything to do with his performance.
He has excelled against some of the best. He has fully earned his ranking.
As for Painter, he has always spotted elite talent before any big name program did. He was one of the first to offer Holgren before he went to Gonzaga! He was the first to offer Jacobsen! Painter’s only problem in the past was the players he identified chose to go to other schools. But now Painter is closing the door and signing those elite players!
As for Painter, he has always spotted elite talent before any big name program did. He was one of the first to offer Holgren before he went to Gonzaga! He was the first to offer Jacobsen! Painter’s only problem in the past was the players he identified chose to go to other schools. But now Painter is closing the door and signing those elite players!
This. Painter has embarrassed the rating services so many times, they have to give him the benefit of the doubt. At the very least, they take a closer look at Purdue recruits to see what Painter sees.
Damn so close…. I said he’d be top 50:
https://purdue.forums.rivals.com/threads/how-to-beat-a-5star.253228/post-3874576
Bet he is top 35 after he wins Mr Indiana bball
We have some nice parting gifts for you, DwayneP......
Or he’s consistently recruited elite talent, ratings be damned. Now ratings and recruits “talent level” is actually aligning with regards to Purdue.
I like the enthusiasm for painter but he was not the first to offer Jacobsen or even Ertel. He does have an eye for talent though, he is a very active recruiter and has a pretty broad network of support including Dakota Mathias, Bruce Parkinson, etc. he even found cox by accident.
HolMgren****
Negative ghost rider — looks like the sixth to offer.
Can’t catch em all!
Are Jaden Ivey, Zach Edey, Carsen Edwards, Braden Smith, Biggie Swanigan and the baby boilers not elite?
It makes me nervous that Duke, UK, or BYU will come knocking with a truckload of cash.
Luke doesn’t strike me as one who would do that…but if they did, he earned it. But he’d be at a much better situation at Purdue.
He will for sure win Mr Basketball unless some else goes wild during HS season. Recruiting rankings don’t really move all that much because of HS play - AAU season is when all the scouts are watching.
If he keeps up his performance this summer and leads Indy Heat to high finish in the Adidas league - he could jump a few more spots.
I don’t know. They do have truckloads of cash, but they also have a lot of mouths to feed and Purdue will be freeing up a lot of cash. In the long run, I think Ertel may make more at Purdue where there is a great history of developing productive, but initially off the radar, players like him.
This is my hope. Nobody knows how long Meyer will stick around, Smith is obviously gone after next season, and hopefully he's loyal to the commitment. Plus, Purdue actually seems to be a national program these days. I keep seeing people in Purdue gear all over the country and at airports all over Europe. Next up, win that chipper.
Thank you Mr spell queen! You needed to post just to correct one letter? I’ll make a note of that for the future and ensure I spell Jacobson wrong for you just to give you something to post about! Or he about Brandon smith!
Painter wasn’t the first? I noticed you didn’t embarrass yourself by saying who was! My entire point was not that Painter was technically the first player to offer any player their first offer, but rather that that he can identify talent long before other legitimate coaches do!
As for the first offers, You’d be amazed at how early those decision 2 And lower level schools extend offers!
As for missing out on elite players, you only listed less than ten. And the ones you listed were not top 10 ranked players when they signed with Purdue. You forgot to include all the ones that said no and painter didn’t even give them an offer because they had already said no. Did Painter give the boozer twins an offer? How about Harper? Were they not good enough? Or did painter already know their minds were made up?
All the fans ever see are the offers. And the targets! The fans never see the attempts that failed so offers were never even extended! For every yes, there are over 1,000 nos. Do you honestly believe painter only contacts and recruits those players he gives offers to?
Painter was recruiting Jabari Parker and Cliff Alexander Did he give either player an offer? I guess you could say since they didn’t reject an offer, They didn’t reject Painter. The real truth was their minds were already made up. They had no intention of playing for painter or Purdue.
Look at Ertel. He made the top 52! However, there are 50 other players better than him that are not interested in Purdue! You could say Painter was not interested in those other 50 players and you could say he is not recruiting them and he has not interest and it’s his decision not there’s. But you would be lying. He’s interested in those other top 50 players. They just aren’t interested in Purdue!
Purdue has attracted better talent under painter, but the vast majority of the top 10, top 20 and top 50 are still looking elsewhere.
I skipped to the end, so I can only comment on this paragraph, which unfortunately features a number of faulty assumptions.
No need to call ppl names…thought you were against that?
You constantly spell his name and other names wrong. Pretty disrespectful.
Again, that’s disrespectful that you keep doing it on purpose.
Do you want me to tell you?
Yea, we all know this. You very much like to state the obvious.
Ok. But you said painter was the first.
Ask IU how those elite players have workers out the last 30 years.
How does that work? They say no even though an offer wasn’t on the table?
No cuz they wouldn’t fit his system and they’re one and done or at least one is. They’d probably want the offense around them and want more money than we are willing to give to first year guys. They’re unproven. Probably would blow up the team if we went after them.
How’d he work out for Rutgers?
They are good for sure. Takes more than 2 players and painter isn’t after one and dones like Duke…unless they’re a great fit
Possibly. But you and I don’t know that
A big assumption here
Ok?
This is false. Cameron Williams is top 20 and visiting in August. There are a few others interested that are top 50 as well.
But they are. You are wrong.
Again, you’re wrong.
Calm down. I already have you on ignore.
I think PU is willing to "invest" in talent now, maybe not to the extent of Duke or UK, but we're not offering peanuts.
I also wonder at what point in the recruiting process Painter brings up : "Hey, recruit, if you're what we think you are and can be, you're going to get a lot of money waved in your face from other programs. If that's your priority, and that's OK if it it, then maybe Purdue isn't the place for you"? (or some variation of that conversation)
Sounds like the coaches often wait to see if/how quickly the player and their group bring up money. If it’s right away, then they failed the test.
But I also don’t think Duke and UK are emptying the Brinks truck for the 54th ranked player. For a top 10 kid like Anthony Thompson, maybe.
NO maybe about it, and I don't think Painter needs to say it.......think it comes across one way or another in visits, meeting the coaches and players, and in getting a sense of the environment of the program.
Can't foresee a time (unless things really change) where Painter would prioritize a player (no mater how talented/skilled they are) whose top priority is compensation and just a stepping stone......not that there is anything wrong with it.......but by definition, that's not a fit with his program and the culture he is continuing to build. You have the opportunity for both - at least that's one of the selling points (among many).......however, IF (emphasis on IF for illustration purposes) you could only have one of the following - CA$$$H or championship, which one would you take? If you answer is $$$, that's not going to work.
No shortcuts, no guarantees but a great opportunity to be part of something as a team.......and a top-notch degree with a number of opportunities after your playing career is over (whenever that is after graduation). Not for everyone.......
Of course, we are in an era where things change seemingly on a dime, and this is BIG business......so what the hell do I know?
JMHO
Agents! Or handlers as Painter calls them. That is why Paint avoids top 20 talent. There is a whole different mindset with these kids while not always the case but way to often it's all about what you can do for them. I have seen it often a kid blows up and the handlers come out with a whole bag of request none have anything to do with winning. As for teams like Kentucky/Duke they do not have more money than Purdue. What they have is a culture of winning at all costs. I personally wouldn't want a star player vs a winning team. Rutgers finished 15-17 with two lottery picks. Painter built his team around team goals. Purdue had an off year and finished 24-12 and a sweet 16 trip. I am of the mindset that if what you're doing is working keep doing it. I spent the last few decades complaining because Painter wouldn't cheat and then the championship game happened. Trying to build a team takes much more than superstar recruits as I have been schooled on. That being said Purdue is sexy now without dropping their standards. Painter will have a great recruiting class in 2026 it's a long way to November. Just my humble opinion.
But now, with revenue sharing, you essentially have to pay up front for talent. Not having money isn't a valid excuse any more.
I'm not sure what the market rate is now for a Top 10, Top 30 or Top 50 kid, but if a kid had a choice between Purdue, MSU, Louisville, Nova, and K-State (i just picked these at random), all good solid programs but there was a big difference in the money being offered, that might be the difference in where he lands.
Similar threads
Purdue recruiting Ertel scores 36 for Junior All-Stars
