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If tariffs don't work, why do some many countries have them and other trade barriers against the US?
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If tariffs don't work, why do some many countries have them and other trade barriers against the US?
I don’t know. Maybe it worked for them. I think tariffs worked for the US in the 2000s when Bush the Younger put a 10% tariff on China steel. Did not cause a trade war. Chump got too greedy trying to use tariffs for US income and it ain’t and will not work.
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What about cutting government spending, eliminating waste like DOGE has been doing? They've saved the Govt billions in a very short timeframe.
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@bonefish1 -- you asked if I'm a liberal? Here comes the free market, limited government perspective -- this is a prime example.
HELL NO! It is often full-on government overreach to pick and choose which industries get tax incentives. Let the market determine how much people get paid. Giving waiters and bartenders a tax break over construction workers, teachers, Walmart clerks; you name it? WTF!
The primary justification I could accept for an industry-specific income tax break would be to incentivize an under-populated and necessary profession. Can't get enough farm workers or air traffic controllers because it's too demanding or too complex to attract quality candidates? Then; sure. But bartenders and such? Government overreach defined.
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It's a fine line between cutting back bloated government programs (good) and arbitrarily eliminating necessary programs that won't heed to political wishes (bad).
IMO DOGE has done both of those things.
That DOGE is crap. Looking into so called corruption is one thing. But indiscriminately firing federal workers is a bunch of bull junk. That was proven that this was not well thought of when they fired workers that controlled our weapons. Then after a whoops moment hired them back. Most of the folks fired were folks that scored well on their performance reviews. A lot of those fired are military veterans. These folks have families to take care of. The money that you claim saved is just a drop compared to the total spending numbers. Just concentrate on why it cost the government $500 for a hammer.
Could have just downsized agencies by attrition; when people retire do not replace them. There are downsizing precedents for doing just that. Eliminates the arbitrary and politicized nature of who goes, will reduce the workforce by about 5% every year, and will get rid of the highest paid employees.
If spending was so important to this administration why is Chump attending sporting events that cost $15 to $20 million a pop.
If spending was so important to this administration why is Chump going to have a dumb military parade like authoritarian governments have. Cost in estimation of $45 million. A tank rides down the street. Who in the so and so cares? How is that saving money? Are you in favor of this dumb parade?
Yeah like a buyout to retire. Companies do this all the time. Or some kind of severance package for 6 months. I thought Chump was a good businessman. This is not how you treat folks that worked for years.
Not even necessary and that is expensive.
If you do NOTHING, but don't replace retiring workers, about 5% will leave each year. It's a 20 year career to pension eligibility (which many will immediately exercise upon eligibility), + some leave for private industry each year. That is easy, not arbitrary/politicized, gets rid of the highest paid workers, doesn't allow the process to be politicized, and is guaranteed to be an effective means of workforce reduction.
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I think it's an overly simplistic view to assume that DOGE went in and started randomly eliminating govt programs and spending without a very thorough and deep analysis of the risk/reward. The MSM and libs have portrayed this as Musk throwing darts at board and if he hit a certain program, then it was eliminated. (and the gullible portion of the public bought into it).
Granted, some programs that were super heavy on DEI or things like giving US taxpayer money to support a trans opera in Peru were probably eliminated after ready a few sentences about the program, but that's probably a very small percentage of the cuts falling under those circumstances.
You and BNI are looking at govt jobs as being a lifetime guarantee of employment. Trump is looking at running the govt like a private business. That's a good thing.
I'm interested to see your sources on where these cost figures come from? If it's some commentator on Urban radio, I wouldn't put much faith in it.
Again, provide a proof source that shows people with tenure and years of service were provided with a separation package.
You fell asleep in civics class in high school didn't you? The US government is a congressional republic. Running the US government like a private business does not work. May work in authoritarian governments in which Chump seems to admire.
Answer my questions.
Do you support spending $20 million dollars for a president to attend the Super Bowl?
Do you support spending $45 million dollars for a military parade to watch a tank go down the street?
I did not say that they were provided a severance package. I just thought that they should have been given a severance package. instead of just put out on the street. A lot of military veterans are federal workers.
None of this DOGE crap is getting the price of consumer prices down.
What is DOGE going to do about corporate greed like the Walton family raising prices at Walmart. Could be tariff related. Another bad decision by this jacked up administration.
Again, what references are you using to claim these numbers are accurate? If you show me a reliable, unbiased source that had definitive, quantifiable data, then I'll listen.
But, again, Urban radio is not a reliable source (nor is The View).
It is not an 'industry'. It is anyone who gets tips.
How are you coming on finding leaders of other countries who are mocking Trump?
again, a govt job is not a guaranteed job for life. Otherwise, show me where I can sign up so I can just kick back and collect a paycheck with unlimited job security.
So hairdressers, bartenders, waiters and waitresses, hotel workers.
Pretty sure those are the primary beneficiaries. Maybe I’m missing a couple of occupations, but that’s arbitrary and government overreach in my opinion.
Oh, and it’s not just world leaders that think Trump is a laughingstock. His own staff and cabinet mocks him behind his back all. the. time. When the president is old, fat, senile, easily manipulated and distracted, stupid, and plastered with 2 inches of orange drag queen makeup it happens.
And I’m not going to play your passive aggressive games—if I list one example you’ll say “is that all?” If I link 20 examples you’ll pick away at one of them. There are too many examples to list—you know how to use the internet—look it up.
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I didn’t know Trumps staff mocked him all the time. Glad to have you for the insight on things going on behind the scenes.
Never mind. I see that you were just parroting what you heard from an msnbc hack, so you have no way to back it up.
Trump Is a ‘Laughingstock All Over the World’ Amid Tariffs Debacle, Lawrence O’Donnell Says | Video
"The sad truth is we don't actually know if Donald Trump is so deeply stupid that he believes what he is saying," the MSNBC host says The post Trump Is a ‘Laughingstock All Over the World’ Amid Tariffs Debacle, Lawrence O’Donnell Says | Video appeared first on TheWrap.
I don't watch or read MSNBC. AND AS I JUST STATED...Never mind. I see that you were just parroting what you heard from an msnbc hack, so you have no way to back it up.
Trump Is a ‘Laughingstock All Over the World’ Amid Tariffs Debacle, Lawrence O’Donnell Says | Video
"The sad truth is we don't actually know if Donald Trump is so deeply stupid that he believes what he is saying," the MSNBC host says The post Trump Is a ‘Laughingstock All Over the World’ Amid Tariffs Debacle, Lawrence O’Donnell Says | Video appeared first on TheWrap.www.yahoo.com
"And I’m not going to play your passive aggressive games—if I list one example you’ll say “is that all?” If I link 20 examples you’ll pick away at one of them. There are too many examples to list—you know how to use the internet—look it up."
But predictably, you did the childish/passive-aggressive thing anyway, because that is how you are and who you are.
I googled 'Trump is a laughingstock' and got warmonger John Bolton and the msnbc hack saying it. No world leaders.
This fits the pattern of you blurting out TDS rhetoric that you cannot back up.
This is so wrong. It's not greed, it's inflation. The dollar isn't worth as much thus products cost more.
Do you really think that every product from every industry went up because every single person running those companies got greedy all at once? That's just lunacy.
Ever think that it's possible product prices go up and amounts you get go down due to OTHER countries tariffs???
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I see, so tariffs work for other countries, but not the US. Interesting dynamic there.
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That dude is a moron. In fact, just about everyone on MSNBC are morons.Never mind. I see that you were just parroting what you heard from an msnbc hack, so you have no way to back it up.
Trump Is a ‘Laughingstock All Over the World’ Amid Tariffs Debacle, Lawrence O’Donnell Says | Video
"The sad truth is we don't actually know if Donald Trump is so deeply stupid that he believes what he is saying," the MSNBC host says The post Trump Is a ‘Laughingstock All Over the World’ Amid Tariffs Debacle, Lawrence O’Donnell Says | Video appeared first on TheWrap.
A small % have been re-hired B. Bloat in the government has become a crisis.
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Wanting Trump to fail was and is harmful to the country. Wanting Biden to fail was good for the country. Biden's goals and Trumps were and are inversely related.
Where were you for us when Joe was getting lost in his closet??And now you know! I'm there for you, my brother.
Perfectly said. A window into the MAGA mind.
Kinda like trump saying the good parts of the economy are due to him and the bad parts are Biden's fault.
biden's success was open borders and intersectionality...which were bad for the country. Trump's success was closing the borders and getting rid of Intersectionality. An inverse relationship as previously stated. I could have added economy etc, but thought it was pretty easy to see. Apparently TDS not only distorts the mind, but the vision as well...
Back to the point, you're saying that a completely non partisan person could tell the hate for Biden from MAGA didn't mean they wanted his admin to fail but the hate for trump from dems definitely means they want him to fail. You guys are above such things. You straddle that fine line well.
Their goals are inversely related? I guess you're trying to say they are opposite. The larger goals are the same. Both want what's best for the country. They just have different views of what that is and how to get there. Unless of course you believe Biden wanted the country to fail, in which case there's nothing more to talk about.
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The biggest domestic blunder of the Biden admin was the open border. I still don't know what was the goal of a policy to allow millions of unvetted people into the country.
To say we 'wanted it to fail' makes no sense because there was no clear definition of success - while the massive negative impacts were expected and obvious.
Do you know what they were trying to achieve with that reckless and disastrous policy?
What I said or typed is what I said. I said they were inversely related which is a directional thing, not a magnitude. Anything less than a perfect, inversely relation could have a coefficient greater than -1. but less than 0. I listed the two biggest things of Biden's which were negative and Trump's approach on those two being positive. That is what I said and those two are true.
That guy in Boulder who tried to burn people alive, Mohamed Sabry Soliman, was an illegal who came in under Biden.
