Watching Phoenix I am reminded how much energy he brought to us last year , who fills that role this year ? Not really sure any of you guys have any thoughts ?
Lance Jones who fills his shoes this year
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I thought the same thing watching it.. we need another guy who can handle the ball, defend, and shoot like him, that's a tough combo. We are looking at Colvin and Heide, but that seems like a lot to ask.
Yep, Cox and Harris will have to share that responsibility.
Agree CMP has multiple available weapons to go to when he has needs. More flexible roster this year with more possibilities. But the 2-3 we have .....
Cox
Harris
Colvin
Heide
Waddell
Obviously one of the above starts, and that's the main answer, but the rest, as the year goes on CMP learns who is more reliable to get what he wants and minutes will adjust accordingly of above to bring that energy & production.
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I just don't see either one playing enough minutes to really fill that role like Lance did. Maybe they surprise.
I think the answer is Cam.
None of us have seen the freshmen, so hard to say. Don't think its anyone from last year unless it's Heide or perhaps Colv
Neither of those guys are primary ball handlers. If one of the freshman guards can defend and handle it well enough, that will be plenty. We have lots of other shooters.
He can guard 1-4, but correct he won’t be matched up all game with a guard unless he’s at the 3 since we have a big lineup in and the other team runs 3 guards.
Harris without a doubt. From what I have seen he brings the energy and his game seems remarkably close to Jones. Except more athleticism.
The one thing Lance brought was that smile and his energy , he brought everyone into the game , including his teammates who fed off his energy. We know Braden does and in some respects TKR can , but we need that heart along with the skills .
Lance was one-of-a-kind. Replaced by committee. Everyone steps up.
I thought the question was about who brings the energy that Lance did. Nothing to do with who they guard.
I agree, I think Cam could bring it this year , especially is dunk energy .
Good point, but defense is half the game and honestly THAT was Lance's specialty. His offense was a bonus.
So with TKR avg. 6.4 points per game and Braden Smith 12 ppg , I see these 2 having to make up half Edey's production of 25 ppg so that's 12.5 ppg between them , putting them at 12 4 and 18 each or 3 baskets extra ppg ....so with Cam Heide coming off 3.4 ppg if he were to bring his to 10 or 12 , I think our team would have adjusted nicely with key players , Braden Cam TKR bringing the energy. .
PS I ll never forget Lance's long shot at half in the Maui.....kinda set a tone there out for the season .
Pretty sure I heard that the portal experts didn’t rank him very high, so you’re probably mistaken.
Lance was such a fun player and a fan favorite. And this has been a fun thread to read with all the memories of what he did.
But with Edey gone, I hardly think "How is Purdue going to replace Lance Jones" is the Boiler's biggest concern. 😎
But with Edey gone, I hardly think "How is Purdue going to replace Lance Jones" is the Boiler's biggest concern. 😎
I think it is a concern though. Who’s going to be that third guard/wing who can guard, hit a big shot or use their quickness to get to the rim. He took a lot of pressure off our sophomore backcourt last year, which helped them develop. He also guarded the best guard/wing on the other team.
While I agree, replacing the 2 NPOTY/most dominant college player since Shaq is our biggest concern, replacing Lance is pretty big too.
I think his positive drive and happy leadership will be equally missed.
I see Harris. Harris was a big time team player for his last team.
I see this as Myles last opportunity to make an impression.
I see Cam becoming a role player
Cox and Benter? Sorry, I’m not seeing it. I don’t see either playing like Jones did as freshmen
I see this as Myles last opportunity to make an impression.
I see Cam becoming a role player
Cox and Benter? Sorry, I’m not seeing it. I don’t see either playing like Jones did as freshmen
And that’s why you’re not a coach at a top men’s college bball team.
Colvin is a sophomore by the way…
Hopefully he realizes the gargantuan opportunity an Edey-less offense presents for him, TKR, and Colvin….
I love his game, and I’m expecting great things from that threesome😎
What game footage are you basing this on?? What are you seeing??
Likely absolutely nothing.
By rare chance, you might be right. You could be right just because frosh take awhile. But their are reports these two will be bigtime players. How soon, we will see.
Wole must be getting different reports…maybe he’s in practice every day? 😂
I think the real answer is 25% Braden, 25% Fletcher, 25% Cam/Myles, 25% frosh.
Lance took a load off Braden and Fletch as underclassmen last year.
Now upperclass, it's on them to be stronger and better and spend time dealing with those guys that Lance took by default.
I really liked how Cam came on at the defensive end late in the year. We know his energy and shooting will be there. If he becomes a reliable team defender this team goes up 1/2 a step. Myles seemed to be getting it as well but had more room to grow as of last year. With his athleticism if he's stronger and works, swing man defender could end up our best defensive position. That would be awesome!
Lastly if the frosh (a frosh) can play, that and some ball handling will be the job. Focus and effort could net them small rotation roles on a possibly very good team.
It's a key issue and how they answer it will be Large factor in the success of this team.
Lance took a load off Braden and Fletch as underclassmen last year.
Now upperclass, it's on them to be stronger and better and spend time dealing with those guys that Lance took by default.
I really liked how Cam came on at the defensive end late in the year. We know his energy and shooting will be there. If he becomes a reliable team defender this team goes up 1/2 a step. Myles seemed to be getting it as well but had more room to grow as of last year. With his athleticism if he's stronger and works, swing man defender could end up our best defensive position. That would be awesome!
Lastly if the frosh (a frosh) can play, that and some ball handling will be the job. Focus and effort could net them small rotation roles on a possibly very good team.
It's a key issue and how they answer it will be Large factor in the success of this team.
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Brian has said that having a secondary ball handler is important to Painter. So, it sounds like Harris/Cox will have larger roles on this years team than originally thought.
And the key with that, that Fletcher is NOT that secondary ball handler. He's talked about that as a change from 22-23 to 23-24 with bringing Lance in. Let Fletch do what Fletch does best.
Choicebeef discussion, is Mr Harris the X factor , hope so
First I don’t think we will match the scoring even if we are a top 10 team. 82 ppg is phenomenal but we can have a special season averaging 75 ppg. We have before.
I do believe TKR can have a huge jump in scoring. He did in Europe without Edey and all the experts that know way more than me are suggesting he will.
I don’t think we will see huge scoring jumps from Braden or Fletch. I do think Heide, Harris, and Colvin are capable of getting 10-12 though. As freshmen offensive ratings were unbelievable per 100 possessions as they both benefited from a more tyoical Purdue offense of perimeter passing. Heide was #1 on team. Colvin was close to jones and similar points per 40 min. We will get a lot of scoring out of our guards.
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