Well as I have stated many times...the democrat cradle to grave control is a huge sign of neurosis which before being relabeled was a mental disease. https://www.medicoverhospitals.in/diseases/neurosis/Big article in our local paper about the anxiety and mental health of people struggling with the Trump administration. I never realized so many people like crime and wasteful spending. There is no doubt these people are sick. Mental illness has taken over a large part of the population.
As the government grows so does the abuse of the tax dollar. Even those that bought the Biden administration should be able to clearly see some of the issues that have went on. I look forward to seeing more waste...and even more elimination. Anyone other than a self serving person that is a recipient of the waste should share in the anger of the spending. Soon was shall see the waste of the department of education and fraud of Social Security, Medicare/Medicaid...and perhaps start to see the Pentagon pass an audit for the first time. It is about waste...everywhere....Waiting for Bob and bni to justify giving taxpayer money for this list of absurdities - including helping fund enemies.
Sorry, I dont worship Oligarchs, whether its Musk, Soros, Gates, etc. Our form of government is a Republic, not an Oligarchy. I agree that wasteful spending is a problem. Money in politics and politicians doing the bidding of corporations and billionaires is not the government that the Founders gave us.
Where is the world would "Sorry, I dont worship Oligarchs, whether its Musk, Soros, Gates, etc." originate? Did you have the concern with "Sorry, I dont worship Oligarchs, whether its Musk, Soros, Gates, etc. Our form of government is a Republic, not an Oligarchy. I agree that wasteful spending is a problem. Money in politics and politicians doing the bidding of corporations and billionaires is not the government that the Founders gave us.
"A Republic, if you can keep it" ---Ben Franklin, when asked about the type of government the Constitution gave us.
Here is one in politics that clearly has Neurosis along with not deciding if she wants sex with a male or female. She got votes in Michigan...Well as I have stated many times...the democrat cradle to grave control is a huge sign of neurosis which before being relabeled was a mental disease. https://www.medicoverhospitals.in/diseases/neurosis/
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I agree with alot of what you said, but to pretend that The Dems are part of the deep state (rightfully so) and ALSO believe that the GOP are pure as the wind-driven snow and somehow think they are not part of the deep state as well is disingenuous at best and naive at worst.Where is the world would "Sorry, I dont worship Oligarchs, whether its Musk, Soros, Gates, etc." originate? Did you have the concern with "
Money in politics and politicians doing the bidding of corporations and billionaires is not the government that the Founders gave us." before Trump? I mean who grew this problem...it wasn't Trump. I do agree that we have a Republic, but also VERY MUCH appreciate Elon finding out what he has and Trump using him to do just that. Now, if Trumps haters can focus on what is going on, then your desire for the USA returning to more of a Republic increases, because sooooooooo many insiders have created the problem and ONLY Trump has tried and is trying to fix it.
Nobody is pretending. The dems are significantly more a problem, but there are no doubt problems with the republicans. REpubl typically support the defense and in my post that you originally quoted I actually stated that perhaps the Pentagon can pass an audit. I have absolutely no issue in shining a light on ALL waste (and think I have mentioned about ALL waste elsewhere)I agree with alot of what you said, but to pretend that The Dems are part of the deep state (rightfully so) and ALSO believe that the GOP are pure as the wind-driven snow and somehow think they are not part of the deep state as well is disingenuous at best and naive at worst.
Look, for this country to correct itself, BOTH parties need fixed. Both have most of the same donors that add to corruption.
Funny thing, I already knew about the political party hate and their campaign ads that are all about identity politics (both sides). The corporate media bias that cheerleads for their team, the corruption of the alphabet agencies (specifically USAID, that is a CIA front). Will they defund another CIA front called Organization of American States {OAS}?), and the deep state (which used to be called the shadow government). Yor preaching to the choir.Nobody is pretending. The dems are significantly more a problem, but there are no doubt problems with the republicans. REpubl typically support the defense and in my post that you originally quoted I actually stated that perhaps the Pentagon can pass an audit. I have absolutely no issue in shining a light on ALL waste (and think I have mentioned about ALL waste elsewhere)
Trump did not create the Democrat’s hate. He EXPOSED it.
Trump did not create the media’s bias. He EXPOSED it.
Trump did not create a corrupt FBI, CIA and DOJ. He EXPOSED it.
Trump did not create the Deep State or DC swamp. He EXPOSED it.
Trump did not create corruption in Both political parties. He EXPOSED it.
I'm tell ya, there's going to be a medical classification of mental health disorders called "Trump Derangement Syndrome" with and ICD-9 code, a CPT reimbursement code, etc.Big article in our local paper about the anxiety and mental health of people struggling with the Trump administration. I never realized so many people like crime and wasteful spending. There is no doubt these people are sick. Mental illness has taken over a large part of the population.
The govt is also not an open check book, to do what one wishes with tax payers money with no oversight or accountability. Musk is looking at govt spending the way a businessman should, determining what is wasteful, what is essential and making changes. It there were no DOGE, there'd be no change and your tax dollars would still be going to fund trans comic books in Peru.Sorry, I dont worship Oligarchs, whether its Musk, Soros, Gates, etc. Our form of government is a Republic, not an Oligarchy. I agree that wasteful spending is a problem. Money in politics and politicians doing the bidding of corporations and billionaires is not the government that the Founders gave us.
"A Republic, if you can keep it" ---Ben Franklin, when asked about the type of government the Constitution gave us.
cutting off your nose to spite your face....Well, maybe not your nose, but something else.Here is one in politics that clearly has Neurosis along with not deciding if she wants sex with a male or female. She got votes in Michigan...
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Michigan Lawmaker ‘Opted For Voluntary Sterilization’ To Avoid ‘Pregnancy In Donald Trump’s America’
A Democratic Michigan state representative says she chose to undergo a “voluntary sterilization” to avoid pregnancy after Donald Trump won the 2024 presidential election. State Rep. Laurie Pohutsky, 36, told a crowd of anti-Trump protesters at the Michigan State Capitol on Wednesday, “Just under...www.dailywire.com
The language is salty, but for those that can ignore the language and hear the message...The govt is also not an open check boo, to do what it wishes with tax payers money with no oversight or accountability. Musk is looking at govt spending the way a businessman should, determining what is wasteful, what is essential and making changes. It there were no DOGE, there'd be no change and your tax dollars would still be going to fund trans comic books in Peru.
Gov spending (Congress has the power of the purse) is Constitutional if it's by the consent of the governed. Comic books, no. Thats the definition of a Representative Republic. Congressional Oversight Committee is the watchdog.The govt is also not an open check book, to do what one wishes with tax payers money with no oversight or accountability. Musk is looking at govt spending the way a businessman should, determining what is wasteful, what is essential and making changes. It there were no DOGE, there'd be no change and your tax dollars would still be going to fund trans comic books in Peru
Not sure I followed you? "Comic books, no" and the rest. Are you saying that an outside auditor and finding billions of fraud and waste is bad? Are you shooting the messenger and not aware of the message? We are witnessing the corruption of the government that has cost taxpayers for years and years and finally we have someone not bought out that asks for an outside audit that reveals what most of us understand that has went on.Gov spending (Congress has the power of the purse) is Constitutional if it's by the consent of the governed. Comic books, no. Thats the definition of a Representative Republic. Congressional Oversight Committee is the watchdog.
I am against taxpayers' money being used Unconstitutionally without the consent of the governed, in what is called corporate subsidies.
Can you just imagine, a highly profitable, for-profit private business, getting taxpayer money (called corporate subsidies) along with making profit?!!? That it also gov waste.
Who is Musk accountable to? Where is the oversight from congress?The govt is also not an open check book, to do what one wishes with tax payers money with no oversight or accountability. Musk is looking at govt spending the way a businessman should, determining what is wasteful, what is essential and making changes. It there were no DOGE, there'd be no change and your tax dollars would still be going to fund trans comic books in Peru.
Congressional oversight, when it comes to pork spending, hasn't existed for 50 years.Who is Musk accountable to? Where is the oversight from congress?
About the comic books, that was an agreement I had with Bonefish's statement. You must not have read that correctly. Yes, everyone is against wasteful spending. Just pick your battles. Stop with going after the small, mickey mouse shit (excuse my Yiddish). Now, the elephant in the room, I will repeat.....Not sure I followed you? "Comic books, no" and the rest. Are you saying that an outside auditor and finding billions of fraud and waste is bad? Are you shooting the messenger and not aware of the message? We are witnessing the corruption of the government that has cost taxpayers for years and years and finally we have someone not bought out that asks for an outside audit that reveals what most of us understand that has went on.
So trump isn't going to act unilaterally to get rid of departments/government organizations? Musk gutting government agencies is legal?Congressional oversight, when it comes to pork spending, hasn't existed for 50 years.
Trump knows Congress has to act to cut the waste Musk has found.
Trump has accomplished his goal, the public knows about the waste.
Congress will now be pressured to finally act.
He's accountable to Trump.Who is Musk accountable to? Where is the oversight from congress?
I'm with you on all that, but don't follow the USAID and puppet dictators. I don't believe that everyone is against waste as it feeds certain people. Just us paying for it disagree...About the comic books, that was an agreement I had with Bonefish's statement. You must not have read that correctly. Yes, everyone is against wasteful spending. Just pick your battles. Stop with going after the small, mickey mouse shit (excuse my Yiddish). Now, the elephant in the room, I will repeat.....
I am against taxpayers' money being used Unconstitutionally (wasteful spending) without the consent of the governed, in what is called corporate subsidies. You know, showering highly profitable businesses (oil companies) with corporate welfare.
Can you just imagine, a business that makes HUGE profits, getting taxpayer money (called corporate subsidies) along with making profit?!!? That is also gov waste.
End all foreign aid.
Abolish CIA front groups that overthrow democratically elected governments and install puppet dictators (Trump started that with USAID, but there are others.
Close unnecessary military bases. Were a Republic, not an Empire.
The US gov should not be subsidizing any for-profit business. BTW, it shouldn't be 'bailing out' any business that is going bankrupt either, like what happened in 2008 with GM and Chrysler.
You really are watching to much liberal news.So trump isn't going to act unilaterally to get rid of departments/government organizations? Musk gutting government agencies is legal?
If you guys can leave "owning the libs" for a second,Congressional oversight, when it comes to pork spending, hasn't existed for 50 years.
Trump knows Congress has to act to cut the waste Musk has found.
Trump has accomplished his goal, the public knows about the waste.
Congress will now be pressured to finally act.
So Elon is doing essentially what Mikey Dickerson did for Obama in the unaffordable health care act and noted in an August 2014 video. I started a post on such. That said and perhaps it was a slip, but we are a Republic (for which it stands) and not a democracy in spite of all teh misdirected wording used commonly today. Having concerns I can understand, but hopefully your concerns were much greater in the last four years as to all the problems that were created that have to be dealt with today.If you guys can leave "owning the libs" for a second,
who is Musk accountable to?
also for those that adamantly support Trump right now, I only have one request. if democracy (despite all its flaws) is important to you, take a second and think hard, what is the line for you that will leave you wondering if our democracy is safe.
Figure what is it for you. write it down. Then go back to owning the libs. That's all i ask for.
Why am I asking you to write it down now? Because, a future may come that line gets crossed. but it will come gradually, not all of a sudden.
Me i see a lot of things that worry me. But maybe I am overreacting.
@atmafola Here is an article published yesterday by Victor Davis HansonSo Elon is doing essentially what Mikey Dickerson did for Obama in the unaffordable health care act and noted in an August 2014 video. I started a post on such. That said and perhaps it was a slip, but we are a Republic (for which it stands) and not a democracy in spite of all teh misdirected wording used commonly today. Having concerns I can understand, but hopefully your concerns were much greater in the last four years as to all the problems that were created that have to be dealt with today.
Now do you have concerns that a certain group and media are more concerned about the messenger than the message ? What the message is saying is fraud costing taxpayers billions yearly AND enhancing the opportunity for fraud when voting. There is a HUGE problem that was created recently and others that have went on for decades and teh American taxpayer has been royally screwed with generation after generation having their money stolen.
Still, I understand people having concerns because this is not the way things have been done in the past as there has never been transparency into the payout for anyone to know as politicians gained more wealth than their salary would allow and the rapid findings could make a lot of people uneasy. It will be interesting this FRiday when an Obama appointed judge rules on the injunction Latita James filed to slow down or stop Elon from making public his findings. The uneasy feelings you have are understandable, because this may turn out to be the most consequential presidential election for many decades and change with findings as we see can do that...
You never overreacted...you just have some concerns
the government is necessarily slowly moving. There is really no other mathematically plausible way to have adequate checks and balances without having a sclerotic government that is hard to move or steer. You truly can't have one without the other. Anything else is just magical thinking.So Elon is doing essentially what Mikey Dickerson did for Obama in the unaffordable health care act and noted in an August 2014 video. I started a post on such. That said and perhaps it was a slip, but we are a Republic (for which it stands) and not a democracy in spite of all teh misdirected wording used commonly today. Having concerns I can understand, but hopefully your concerns were much greater in the last four years as to all the problems that were created that have to be dealt with today.
Now do you have concerns that a certain group and media are more concerned about the messenger than the message ? What the message is saying is fraud costing taxpayers billions yearly AND enhancing the opportunity for fraud when voting. There is a HUGE problem that was created recently and others that have went on for decades and teh American taxpayer has been royally screwed with generation after generation having their money stolen.
Still, I understand people having concerns because this is not the way things have been done in the past as there has never been transparency into the payout for anyone to know as politicians gained more wealth than their salary would allow and the rapid findings could make a lot of people uneasy. It will be interesting this FRiday when an Obama appointed judge rules on the injunction Latita James filed to slow down or stop Elon from making public his findings. The uneasy feelings you have are understandable, because this may turn out to be the most consequential presidential election for many decades and change with findings as we see can do that...
You never overreacted...you just have some concerns
I'm unsure what "people like me" means rather than some that share "some" of my concerns and "some" of my wishes. With full disclosure I have some Libertarian leans, and generally want a "REDUCED" blob, because I know, and we all should know, that the bigger the blob the more waste. With a reduced blob, it will naturally force more involvement into it's purpose since the potential waste is smaller. I'm pretty independent and do a LOT of things on my own and old enough to have actually lived through many presidents. I prefer the fed government to have less of a role and the state to have a larger as was intended. So in a nutshell I want a less intrusive government that is smaller. We know from Price's Law the waste in groups. What DOGE is doing I experienced in a similar fashion a few decades ago when I requested data from a school without any names and such adn they replied that I could tie some data to a person which I couldn't but it was their way of not wanting exposed similar to what we are seeing now. I also corrected the Indiana Department of Education on their Analysis of Variance on reduced lunches. Their own data didn't support their contention and they knew it. They responded saying in spite of no support, they believed it, and removed the data from their site and never produced something similar for a few years...maybe never, but I'm no longer involved like I was. It isn't hard to find equalitarian push in group dynamics in schools.@tjreese correct we are a republic. I can live with bad governance (which for me are governments whose policies I tend to disagree with e.g. Reagan and GWB). my concerns are for our constitutional republic, not some government I disagree with.
I only have one request for people like you. Write down where you would draw the line about what would make you so concerned for our constitutional republic, and stow it away. so you may remind yourself one day (should the day ever come), what you had told yourself you won't stand for.
No question for something to be permanent it will need congressional approval and why so many dem delays. Now, DOGE is finding fraud and finding it everywhere due to the blob's growth. Do you not approve of finding fraud? Do you not approve of the transparency of the fraud? Can you not account for your expenditures in your company? Could it not pass an outsider's adult if the audit purpose was to follow the spending? For the first time in my life a president, wants transparency.the government is necessarily slowly moving. There is really no other mathematically plausible way to have adequate checks and balances without having a sclerotic government that is hard to move or steer. You truly can't have one without the other. Anything else is just magical thinking.
I had the fortune of starting a small tech startup like a decade ago. I remember the early days, just 2 or 3 of us, everything moved so fast. We saw a problem, it was fixed by the night. Features getting added in no time. Things moved fast and efficiently. then we got got bigger, and got to 100 employees. And everything became a drag. people would try to move fast, and fix things, and then end up just breaking more things. For every step we moved forward we took 2 steps backward. We finally had to sit down, and be honest with ourselves, a 100 person company is not 5-man startup. We needed processes and controls and more things. Did it slow things down. Absolutely!! did we start growing again. yes. Federal Government is a 2-million person corporation.
I am not saying federal government is efficient. There is no way to be that size and not be inefficient in many places. But big radical changes is not really possible without putting everything at risk e.g. giving DOGE unchecked powers/access. If Trump/Elon are indeed well-meaning (I am personally unconvinced they are), i wish them goodluck in this endeavor. Every $ federal government has some persons benefitting from it, and would have people fighting for it. The road they're taking is fraught with long-term peril. A single person having that much power and access is a threat to the system itself. Even if the current wielder of such powers is well-intentioned. There is no guarantee that a future wielder of such powers will be.
A little more in New York that Latitia and her judge want stopped, because DOGE is finding too much Fraud. I assume this isn't news?So Elon is doing essentially what Mikey Dickerson did for Obama in the unaffordable health care act and noted in an August 2014 video. I started a post on such. That said and perhaps it was a slip, but we are a Republic (for which it stands) and not a democracy in spite of all teh misdirected wording used commonly today. Having concerns I can understand, but hopefully your concerns were much greater in the last four years as to all the problems that were created that have to be dealt with today.
Now do you have concerns that a certain group and media are more concerned about the messenger than the message ? What the message is saying is fraud costing taxpayers billions yearly AND enhancing the opportunity for fraud when voting. There is a HUGE problem that was created recently and others that have went on for decades and teh American taxpayer has been royally screwed with generation after generation having their money stolen.
Still, I understand people having concerns because this is not the way things have been done in the past as there has never been transparency into the payout for anyone to know as politicians gained more wealth than their salary would allow and the rapid findings could make a lot of people uneasy. It will be interesting this FRiday when an Obama appointed judge rules on the injunction Latita James filed to slow down or stop Elon from making public his findings. The uneasy feelings you have are understandable, because this may turn out to be the most consequential presidential election for many decades and change with findings as we see can do that...
You never overreacted...you just have some concerns
According to this report, the line was crossed long ago. Wake up.Why am I asking you to write it down now? Because, a future may come that line gets crossed. but it will come gradually, not all of a sudden.
"How anyone can be concerned about the fraud found, and worried about it ,rather than how it came to be and who is profiting from it baffles me."No question for something to be permanent it will need congressional approval and why so many dem delays. Now, DOGE is finding fraud and finding it everywhere due to the blob's growth. Do you not approve of finding fraud? Do you not approve of the transparency of the fraud? Can you not account for your expenditures in your company? Could it not pass an outsider's adult if the audit purpose was to follow the spending? For the first time in my life a president, wants transparency.
Now, I agree with you in theory and historic theory, in respect that a single person does NOT have all the answers in spite of the dems believing that for a couple of hundred years and that evolution of an idea is typically the best. However, the findings of DOGE are pretty straight forward and something the public wanted and why we see distractions and to stop the messenger rather than addressing the messages full of fraud. Additionally, it isn't an "idea", but findings. How anyone can be concerned about the fraud found, and worried about it ,rather than how it came to be and who is profiting from it baffles me. It has been found and so we know for a fact those fears you have have been in existence for some time, and the desire to hire 87,000 IRS people to ensure the waste had a paycheck should be a concern for all. Don't you think the things you are seeing have been thrown around the last four years for such rapid success? Anyway, I understand your concerns, but don't share them to overturn what I think is important. I do however know you are sincere and appreciate your sincere desires. You handle yourself well...![]()
Yeh, you're definitely overreacting....You've bought into the lib Dem gibberish of "our democracy is at risk".....Give me a break.If you guys can leave "owning the libs" for a second,
who is Musk accountable to?
also for those that adamantly support Trump right now, I only have one request. if democracy (despite all its flaws) is important to you, take a second and think hard, what is the line for you that will leave you wondering if our democracy is safe.
Figure what is it for you. write it down. Then go back to owning the libs. That's all i ask for.
Why am I asking you to write it down now? Because, a future may come that line gets crossed. but it will come gradually, not all of a sudden.
Me i see a lot of things that worry me. But maybe I am overreacting.
Can you cite any specifics on what is being done that's unconstitutional? Or, are you like Al Green and wanting to impeach Trump again for "dastardly deeds" (yes, that's actually what that moron said)."How anyone can be concerned about the fraud found, and worried about it ,rather than how it came to be and who is profiting from it baffles me."
We should be worried about both.
Running roughshod over the constitution, not to mention the issues of national security and privacy, in order to find these problems in NOT ok. The ends do not justify the means.
So I wrote here https://purdue.forums.rivals.com/th...-for-the-doge-injunction-probably-not.252038/ that it appears Trump is in good shape. I never copied but read probably three or four comments by lawyers on X that also said Trump is in good shape and many said Trump should ignore the complaints and continue allowing it to go to the supreme court. I don't have enough background to spin this at all, but the post I linked above tries to do that. I expect this Friday that the judge will rule that Trump has to stop, because this could have been filed anywhere and they sought an activist judge through Latitia James to hear it. I personally cannot understand the worry about DOGE, when in fact it is the group that is on the gravy train that has gained a lot of wealth that has compromised the integrity of the government for year doing the complaining of which they are worth over 10 million in wealth. This fraud ties into lots of things and there lies a huge concern for the country. Getfeld tries to size it up in comparing an ICON on your computer."How anyone can be concerned about the fraud found, and worried about it ,rather than how it came to be and who is profiting from it baffles me."
We should be worried about both.
Running roughshod over the constitution, not to mention the issues of national security and privacy, in order to find these problems in NOT ok. The ends do not justify the means.
I said nothing about impeachment. Wtf? One can always tell when you know you're in the wrong when you reach like that.Can you cite any specifics on what is being done that's unconstitutional? Or, are you like Al Green and wanting to impeach Trump again for "dastardly deeds" (yes, that's actually what that moron said).
Oh well I feel so much better. Trump always follows the rules.He's accountable to Trump.
Who were the people accountable to when they approved $6 million to promote tourism in Egypt?
Half the people in congress don't like what Musk is doing because it's going to cut off their gravy train.
Why would you be against uncovering and eliminating wasteful govt spending?
i asked for your personal line. not some arbitrary line. Write your line down. yoursAccording to this report, the line was crossed long ago. Wake up.