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Big article in our local paper about the anxiety and mental health of people struggling with the Trump administration. I never realized so many people like crime and wasteful spending. There is no doubt these people are sick. Mental illness has taken over a large part of the population.
 
Big article in our local paper about the anxiety and mental health of people struggling with the Trump administration. I never realized so many people like crime and wasteful spending. There is no doubt these people are sick. Mental illness has taken over a large part of the population.
Well as I have stated many times...the democrat cradle to grave control is a huge sign of neurosis which before being relabeled was a mental disease. https://www.medicoverhospitals.in/diseases/neurosis/

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Neurosis: Causes, Symptoms, and Care​

Neurosis is a term used to describe a range of mental health conditions where individuals may experience excessive worry, anxiety, and emotional distress. It is believed to stem from a combination of genetic, environmental, and psychological factors. Factors such as childhood experiences, personality traits, and coping mechanisms play a role in the development of neurosis. The exact causes of neurosis can vary from person to person, making each experience unique.

While some individuals may be genetically predisposed to neurosis, others may develop it due to traumatic events or ongoing stress. Additionally, environmental factors such as upbringing, societal influences, and life circumstances can also contribute to the development of neurosis. Understanding the complex interplay of these factors is crucial in addressing neurosis and providing

What Are the Symptoms of Neurosis​

Neurosis can manifest in various ways, leading to symptoms that affect a person's mental well-being. Individuals with neurosis may experience excessive worrying, irrational fears, difficulty controlling emotions, and ongoing feelings of distress. Physical symptoms like headaches, muscle tension, and fatigue can also accompany neurosis.

Additionally, changes in sleep patterns, irritability, and difficulty concentrating are common indicators of neurosis. It is essential for those experiencing these symptoms to seek support from mental health professionals to address and manage neurosis effectively.

  • Excessive worry, anxiety, and irrational fears are common symptoms of neurosis, often leading to distress and impaired daily functioning.
  • Individuals with neurosis may experience obsessive thoughts, compulsive behaviors, and difficulty controlling their impulses, impacting their quality of life.
  • Persistent feelings of sadness, hopelessness, and low self-esteem can indicate neurosis, affecting one's mood and relationships with others.
  • Physical symptoms such as headaches, gastrointestinal issues, and muscle tension may manifest in individuals with neurosis due to heightened stress levels.
  • Insomnia, fatigue, and difficulty concentrating are prevalent in neurosis, interfering with sleep patterns and cognitive functions.
 
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Waiting for Bob and bni to justify giving taxpayer money for this list of absurdities - including helping fund enemies.
As the government grows so does the abuse of the tax dollar. Even those that bought the Biden administration should be able to clearly see some of the issues that have went on. I look forward to seeing more waste...and even more elimination. Anyone other than a self serving person that is a recipient of the waste should share in the anger of the spending. Soon was shall see the waste of the department of education and fraud of Social Security, Medicare/Medicaid...and perhaps start to see the Pentagon pass an audit for the first time. It is about waste...everywhere....
 
Sorry, I dont worship Oligarchs, whether its Musk, Soros, Gates, etc. Our form of government is a Republic, not an Oligarchy. I agree that wasteful spending is a problem. Money in politics and politicians doing the bidding of corporations and billionaires is not the government that the Founders gave us.

"A Republic, if you can keep it" ---Ben Franklin, when asked about the type of government the Constitution gave us.
 
Sorry, I dont worship Oligarchs, whether its Musk, Soros, Gates, etc. Our form of government is a Republic, not an Oligarchy. I agree that wasteful spending is a problem. Money in politics and politicians doing the bidding of corporations and billionaires is not the government that the Founders gave us.

"A Republic, if you can keep it" ---Ben Franklin, when asked about the type of government the Constitution gave us.
Where is the world would "Sorry, I dont worship Oligarchs, whether its Musk, Soros, Gates, etc." originate? Did you have the concern with "
Money in politics and politicians doing the bidding of corporations and billionaires is not the government that the Founders gave us." before Trump? I mean who grew this problem...it wasn't Trump. I do agree that we have a Republic, but also VERY MUCH appreciate Elon finding out what he has and Trump using him to do just that. Now, if Trumps haters can focus on what is going on, then your desire for the USA returning to more of a Republic increases, because sooooooooo many insiders have created the problem and ONLY Trump has tried and is trying to fix it.
 
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Well as I have stated many times...the democrat cradle to grave control is a huge sign of neurosis which before being relabeled was a mental disease. https://www.medicoverhospitals.in/diseases/neurosis/

snip...snip

Neurosis: Causes, Symptoms, and Care​

Neurosis is a term used to describe a range of mental health conditions where individuals may experience excessive worry, anxiety, and emotional distress. It is believed to stem from a combination of genetic, environmental, and psychological factors. Factors such as childhood experiences, personality traits, and coping mechanisms play a role in the development of neurosis. The exact causes of neurosis can vary from person to person, making each experience unique.

While some individuals may be genetically predisposed to neurosis, others may develop it due to traumatic events or ongoing stress. Additionally, environmental factors such as upbringing, societal influences, and life circumstances can also contribute to the development of neurosis. Understanding the complex interplay of these factors is crucial in addressing neurosis and providing

What Are the Symptoms of Neurosis​

Neurosis can manifest in various ways, leading to symptoms that affect a person's mental well-being. Individuals with neurosis may experience excessive worrying, irrational fears, difficulty controlling emotions, and ongoing feelings of distress. Physical symptoms like headaches, muscle tension, and fatigue can also accompany neurosis.

Additionally, changes in sleep patterns, irritability, and difficulty concentrating are common indicators of neurosis. It is essential for those experiencing these symptoms to seek support from mental health professionals to address and manage neurosis effectively.

  • Excessive worry, anxiety, and irrational fears are common symptoms of neurosis, often leading to distress and impaired daily functioning.
  • Individuals with neurosis may experience obsessive thoughts, compulsive behaviors, and difficulty controlling their impulses, impacting their quality of life.
  • Persistent feelings of sadness, hopelessness, and low self-esteem can indicate neurosis, affecting one's mood and relationships with others.
  • Physical symptoms such as headaches, gastrointestinal issues, and muscle tension may manifest in individuals with neurosis due to heightened stress levels.
  • Insomnia, fatigue, and difficulty concentrating are prevalent in neurosis, interfering with sleep patterns and cognitive functions.
Here is one in politics that clearly has Neurosis along with not deciding if she wants sex with a male or female. She got votes in Michigan...

 
Where is the world would "Sorry, I dont worship Oligarchs, whether its Musk, Soros, Gates, etc." originate? Did you have the concern with "
Money in politics and politicians doing the bidding of corporations and billionaires is not the government that the Founders gave us." before Trump? I mean who grew this problem...it wasn't Trump. I do agree that we have a Republic, but also VERY MUCH appreciate Elon finding out what he has and Trump using him to do just that. Now, if Trumps haters can focus on what is going on, then your desire for the USA returning to more of a Republic increases, because sooooooooo many insiders have created the problem and ONLY Trump has tried and is trying to fix it.
I agree with alot of what you said, but to pretend that The Dems are part of the deep state (rightfully so) and ALSO believe that the GOP are pure as the wind-driven snow and somehow think they are not part of the deep state as well is disingenuous at best and naive at worst.
Look, for this country to correct itself, BOTH parties need fixed. Both have most of the same donors that add to corruption.
 
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I agree with alot of what you said, but to pretend that The Dems are part of the deep state (rightfully so) and ALSO believe that the GOP are pure as the wind-driven snow and somehow think they are not part of the deep state as well is disingenuous at best and naive at worst.
Look, for this country to correct itself, BOTH parties need fixed. Both have most of the same donors that add to corruption.
Nobody is pretending. The dems are significantly more a problem, but there are no doubt problems with the republicans. REpubl typically support the defense and in my post that you originally quoted I actually stated that perhaps the Pentagon can pass an audit. I have absolutely no issue in shining a light on ALL waste (and think I have mentioned about ALL waste elsewhere)

Trump did not create the Democrat’s hate. He EXPOSED it.

Trump did not create the media’s bias. He EXPOSED it.

Trump did not create a corrupt FBI, CIA and DOJ. He EXPOSED it.

Trump did not create the Deep State or DC swamp. He EXPOSED it.

Trump did not create corruption in Both political parties. He EXPOSED it.
 
Nobody is pretending. The dems are significantly more a problem, but there are no doubt problems with the republicans. REpubl typically support the defense and in my post that you originally quoted I actually stated that perhaps the Pentagon can pass an audit. I have absolutely no issue in shining a light on ALL waste (and think I have mentioned about ALL waste elsewhere)

Trump did not create the Democrat’s hate. He EXPOSED it.

Trump did not create the media’s bias. He EXPOSED it.

Trump did not create a corrupt FBI, CIA and DOJ. He EXPOSED it.

Trump did not create the Deep State or DC swamp. He EXPOSED it.

Trump did not create corruption in Both political parties. He EXPOSED it.
Funny thing, I already knew about the political party hate and their campaign ads that are all about identity politics (both sides). The corporate media bias that cheerleads for their team, the corruption of the alphabet agencies (specifically USAID, that is a CIA front). Will they defund another CIA front called Organization of American States {OAS}?), and the deep state (which used to be called the shadow government). Yor preaching to the choir.
 
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Big article in our local paper about the anxiety and mental health of people struggling with the Trump administration. I never realized so many people like crime and wasteful spending. There is no doubt these people are sick. Mental illness has taken over a large part of the population.
I'm tell ya, there's going to be a medical classification of mental health disorders called "Trump Derangement Syndrome" with and ICD-9 code, a CPT reimbursement code, etc.
The lazy democrats will use it to apply for various govt benefits and funding.
 
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Sorry, I dont worship Oligarchs, whether its Musk, Soros, Gates, etc. Our form of government is a Republic, not an Oligarchy. I agree that wasteful spending is a problem. Money in politics and politicians doing the bidding of corporations and billionaires is not the government that the Founders gave us.

"A Republic, if you can keep it" ---Ben Franklin, when asked about the type of government the Constitution gave us.
The govt is also not an open check book, to do what one wishes with tax payers money with no oversight or accountability. Musk is looking at govt spending the way a businessman should, determining what is wasteful, what is essential and making changes. It there were no DOGE, there'd be no change and your tax dollars would still be going to fund trans comic books in Peru.
 
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Here is one in politics that clearly has Neurosis along with not deciding if she wants sex with a male or female. She got votes in Michigan...

cutting off your nose to spite your face....Well, maybe not your nose, but something else.

This woman clearly suffers from TDS and other mental disorders. It's a good thing she doesn't procreate. All she has to do now is gain 100lbs, color her hair purple and she'll fit right in.
 
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The govt is also not an open check boo, to do what it wishes with tax payers money with no oversight or accountability. Musk is looking at govt spending the way a businessman should, determining what is wasteful, what is essential and making changes. It there were no DOGE, there'd be no change and your tax dollars would still be going to fund trans comic books in Peru.
The language is salty, but for those that can ignore the language and hear the message...
 
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The govt is also not an open check book, to do what one wishes with tax payers money with no oversight or accountability. Musk is looking at govt spending the way a businessman should, determining what is wasteful, what is essential and making changes. It there were no DOGE, there'd be no change and your tax dollars would still be going to fund trans comic books in Peru
Gov spending (Congress has the power of the purse) is Constitutional if it's by the consent of the governed. Comic books, no. Thats the definition of a Representative Republic. Congressional Oversight Committee is the watchdog.
I am against taxpayers' money being used Unconstitutionally without the consent of the governed, in what is called corporate subsidies.
Can you just imagine, a highly profitable, for-profit private business, getting taxpayer money (called corporate subsidies) along with making profit?!!? That it also gov waste.

 
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Gov spending (Congress has the power of the purse) is Constitutional if it's by the consent of the governed. Comic books, no. Thats the definition of a Representative Republic. Congressional Oversight Committee is the watchdog.
I am against taxpayers' money being used Unconstitutionally without the consent of the governed, in what is called corporate subsidies.
Can you just imagine, a highly profitable, for-profit private business, getting taxpayer money (called corporate subsidies) along with making profit?!!? That it also gov waste.

Not sure I followed you? "Comic books, no" and the rest. Are you saying that an outside auditor and finding billions of fraud and waste is bad? Are you shooting the messenger and not aware of the message? We are witnessing the corruption of the government that has cost taxpayers for years and years and finally we have someone not bought out that asks for an outside audit that reveals what most of us understand that has went on.

 
The govt is also not an open check book, to do what one wishes with tax payers money with no oversight or accountability. Musk is looking at govt spending the way a businessman should, determining what is wasteful, what is essential and making changes. It there were no DOGE, there'd be no change and your tax dollars would still be going to fund trans comic books in Peru.
Who is Musk accountable to? Where is the oversight from congress?
 
Who is Musk accountable to? Where is the oversight from congress?
Congressional oversight, when it comes to pork spending, hasn't existed for 50 years.
Trump knows Congress has to act to cut the waste Musk has found.
Trump has accomplished his goal, the public knows about the waste.
Congress will now be pressured to finally act.
 
Not sure I followed you? "Comic books, no" and the rest. Are you saying that an outside auditor and finding billions of fraud and waste is bad? Are you shooting the messenger and not aware of the message? We are witnessing the corruption of the government that has cost taxpayers for years and years and finally we have someone not bought out that asks for an outside audit that reveals what most of us understand that has went on.

About the comic books, that was an agreement I had with Bonefish's statement. You must not have read that correctly. Yes, everyone is against wasteful spending. Just pick your battles. Stop with going after the small, mickey mouse shit (excuse my Yiddish). Now, the elephant in the room, I will repeat.....
I am against taxpayers' money being used Unconstitutionally (wasteful spending) without the consent of the governed, in what is called corporate subsidies. You know, showering highly profitable businesses (oil companies) with corporate welfare.
Can you just imagine, a business that makes HUGE profits, getting taxpayer money (called corporate subsidies) along with making profit?!!? That is also gov waste.
End all foreign aid.
Abolish CIA front groups that overthrow democratically elected governments and install puppet dictators (Trump started that with USAID, but there are others.
Close unnecessary military bases. Were a Republic, not an Empire.

The US gov should not be subsidizing any for-profit business. BTW, it shouldn't be 'bailing out' any business that is going bankrupt either, like what happened in 2008 with GM and Chrysler.
 
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Congressional oversight, when it comes to pork spending, hasn't existed for 50 years.
Trump knows Congress has to act to cut the waste Musk has found.
Trump has accomplished his goal, the public knows about the waste.
Congress will now be pressured to finally act.
So trump isn't going to act unilaterally to get rid of departments/government organizations? Musk gutting government agencies is legal?
 
Who is Musk accountable to? Where is the oversight from congress?
He's accountable to Trump.
Who were the people accountable to when they approved $6 million to promote tourism in Egypt?

Half the people in congress don't like what Musk is doing because it's going to cut off their gravy train.

Why would you be against uncovering and eliminating wasteful govt spending?
 
About the comic books, that was an agreement I had with Bonefish's statement. You must not have read that correctly. Yes, everyone is against wasteful spending. Just pick your battles. Stop with going after the small, mickey mouse shit (excuse my Yiddish). Now, the elephant in the room, I will repeat.....
I am against taxpayers' money being used Unconstitutionally (wasteful spending) without the consent of the governed, in what is called corporate subsidies. You know, showering highly profitable businesses (oil companies) with corporate welfare.
Can you just imagine, a business that makes HUGE profits, getting taxpayer money (called corporate subsidies) along with making profit?!!? That is also gov waste.
End all foreign aid.
Abolish CIA front groups that overthrow democratically elected governments and install puppet dictators (Trump started that with USAID, but there are others.
Close unnecessary military bases. Were a Republic, not an Empire.

The US gov should not be subsidizing any for-profit business. BTW, it shouldn't be 'bailing out' any business that is going bankrupt either, like what happened in 2008 with GM and Chrysler.
I'm with you on all that, but don't follow the USAID and puppet dictators. I don't believe that everyone is against waste as it feeds certain people. Just us paying for it disagree... :(
 
So trump isn't going to act unilaterally to get rid of departments/government organizations? Musk gutting government agencies is legal?
You really are watching to much liberal news.
Musk isn't gutting anything.
He's finding the waste and reporting it.
Trump has tried to gut some but has gotten stopped by the courts.
Congress has that authority, Musk has exposed it upon Trump's request.
By exposing the fraud Trump has accomplished his objective.
He may try again, fight the courts, to eliminate the fraud. It doesn't matter the fraud has been exposed.
Did Comers investigation into the Biden family corruption result in any convictions?
It didn't matter, Trump won the election.
 
Congressional oversight, when it comes to pork spending, hasn't existed for 50 years.
Trump knows Congress has to act to cut the waste Musk has found.
Trump has accomplished his goal, the public knows about the waste.
Congress will now be pressured to finally act.
If you guys can leave "owning the libs" for a second,
who is Musk accountable to?
also for those that adamantly support Trump right now, I only have one request. if democracy (despite all its flaws) is important to you, take a second and think hard, what is the line for you that will leave you wondering if our democracy is safe.

Figure what is it for you. write it down. Then go back to owning the libs. That's all i ask for.

Why am I asking you to write it down now? Because, a future may come that line gets crossed. but it will come gradually, not all of a sudden.

Me i see a lot of things that worry me. But maybe I am overreacting.
 
If you guys can leave "owning the libs" for a second,
who is Musk accountable to?
also for those that adamantly support Trump right now, I only have one request. if democracy (despite all its flaws) is important to you, take a second and think hard, what is the line for you that will leave you wondering if our democracy is safe.

Figure what is it for you. write it down. Then go back to owning the libs. That's all i ask for.

Why am I asking you to write it down now? Because, a future may come that line gets crossed. but it will come gradually, not all of a sudden.

Me i see a lot of things that worry me. But maybe I am overreacting.
So Elon is doing essentially what Mikey Dickerson did for Obama in the unaffordable health care act and noted in an August 2014 video. I started a post on such. That said and perhaps it was a slip, but we are a Republic (for which it stands) and not a democracy in spite of all teh misdirected wording used commonly today. Having concerns I can understand, but hopefully your concerns were much greater in the last four years as to all the problems that were created that have to be dealt with today.

Now do you have concerns that a certain group and media are more concerned about the messenger than the message ? What the message is saying is fraud costing taxpayers billions yearly AND enhancing the opportunity for fraud when voting. There is a HUGE problem that was created recently and others that have went on for decades and teh American taxpayer has been royally screwed with generation after generation having their money stolen.

Still, I understand people having concerns because this is not the way things have been done in the past as there has never been transparency into the payout for anyone to know as politicians gained more wealth than their salary would allow and the rapid findings could make a lot of people uneasy. It will be interesting this FRiday when an Obama appointed judge rules on the injunction Latita James filed to slow down or stop Elon from making public his findings. The uneasy feelings you have are understandable, because this may turn out to be the most consequential presidential election for many decades and change with findings as we see can do that...

You never overreacted...you just have some concerns
 
So Elon is doing essentially what Mikey Dickerson did for Obama in the unaffordable health care act and noted in an August 2014 video. I started a post on such. That said and perhaps it was a slip, but we are a Republic (for which it stands) and not a democracy in spite of all teh misdirected wording used commonly today. Having concerns I can understand, but hopefully your concerns were much greater in the last four years as to all the problems that were created that have to be dealt with today.

Now do you have concerns that a certain group and media are more concerned about the messenger than the message ? What the message is saying is fraud costing taxpayers billions yearly AND enhancing the opportunity for fraud when voting. There is a HUGE problem that was created recently and others that have went on for decades and teh American taxpayer has been royally screwed with generation after generation having their money stolen.

Still, I understand people having concerns because this is not the way things have been done in the past as there has never been transparency into the payout for anyone to know as politicians gained more wealth than their salary would allow and the rapid findings could make a lot of people uneasy. It will be interesting this FRiday when an Obama appointed judge rules on the injunction Latita James filed to slow down or stop Elon from making public his findings. The uneasy feelings you have are understandable, because this may turn out to be the most consequential presidential election for many decades and change with findings as we see can do that...

You never overreacted...you just have some concerns
@atmafola Here is an article published yesterday by Victor Davis Hanson

Even Never Trumpers Are Warming Up to The Donald

By Victor Davis Hanson published on 2/9/25

The following is a commentary based on a recent talk.

I’d like to talk a day about an irony. Maybe it’s something that’s a paradox. Have you noticed that there are certain people who are coming out of the woodwork who are diehard Trump opponents and suddenly they say, sorta, “I like Donald Trump,” or they don’t say it publicly or they don’t write it emphatically?

And here’s what I mean.

He went to Davos, Switzerland, and I thought, “Wow, they’re going to destroy Don.”

I don’t mean destroy him effectively, but they’re going to try to destroy him. And then the questions and answers were amazing. He outlined tax reform, transparency, low interest rates, targeted tariffs, more energy development, more fossil fuels, and closed borders.

I thought, “Wow, that is going to drive the Davos people crazy.”

And then the questions were, “Are you sure you can send us a liquid, not natural gas? We need it in Europe” or

“This sounds great, but when will it start?”

And you start to think, these are capitalists and that they want Europe to be returned to its former grandeur. And all of a sudden, this man is saying something that is exactly opposite of the socialism that destroyed their countries and that they bought into. And now they don’t have to do it. And they’re secretly but more openly even admiring Trump.

The same phenomenon happened when I was on campus, not long on the Stanford campus. A professor whom I know came up to me, and I would say that he is a moderately anti-Trumper, never Trumper maybe, and he whispered, said, “Wow, the end of DEI is actually not that bad, is it?” And what he was saying is, “There’s no more racial quotas, and maybe I wanted to be a dean.” I’m saying, I’m extrapolating what he was saying. “Maybe I want to be a dean, or maybe I want to get published at University Press and there’s not going to be any racial quotas anymore or discrimination, and I’m for that because the DEI is a monstrosity. There won’t be any czar that calls me up and says your syllabus doesn’t have enough DEI material in it, or I’ve looked at your grading pattern and you’re inordinately giving Cs to people of color. No more commissars.”

So even they are, you know, happy that Trump is doing this. And then we get into the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA), and people are really angry at Trump because, in this tragedy of the airline accident, he actually said things that were quite blunt. He said that DEI was maybe at fault, and we now know that the—and I don’t want to get into a critique yet of the crash—but it seems like the helicopter was too low, and there was culpability, which seems like one of the air traffic controllers was not there. It seems like somebody left early. It seems like there was a mistake on giving directions about the proper elevations.

But we do know this, and Trump brought it up, and that was that the FAA consistently under Joe Biden had racial quotas, and they abolished programs and universities that encouraged people who had either expertise through the curriculum or prior military experience who would do well on meritocratic exams to try to join the FAA, and they were rejected because of their race. That is a fact, and in fact, there have been several lawsuits challenging the FAA and the first nomination to the FAA. Of course, the candidate that Biden picked didn’t even know the fundamentals of aviation. He came from the Denver airport, but he didn’t have any knowledge of the actual mechanics of how airports worked, it seemed.

My point is that when he did that, everybody in the media thought it was awful. But then people who probably didn’t even vote for him said, “Wait a minute. I want to be safe. I want my daughter to be safe. I want my husband to be safe. You mean there are people in these control towers that were selected for criteria other than merit?”

And while it might have been illiberal or maybe inconvenient, Trump told the truth. What I’m getting at is this. This country has moved so far to the left on energy, on DEI, on transgenderism, on crime, and on the border that people even who supported it, whether they’re the people in LA that lost their homes or the people who voted for Adam Schiff—and we saw what he did at the nomination—they want a return.

And this man is the only person, Trump, with the guts and the backbone to not just make a transition, not to the far right, back to the center or the center traditional right that secretly, at least for now, they are happy that it’s going on because they feel that they and most Americans will be the beneficiaries. And you know what’s correct? They’re absolutely right.
 
@tjreese correct we are a republic. I can live with bad governance (which for me are governments whose policies I tend to disagree with e.g. Reagan and GWB). my concerns are for our constitutional republic, not some government I disagree with.

I only have one request for people like you. Write down where you would draw the line about what would make you so concerned for our constitutional republic, and stow it away. so you may remind yourself one day (should the day ever come), what you had told yourself you won't stand for.
 
So Elon is doing essentially what Mikey Dickerson did for Obama in the unaffordable health care act and noted in an August 2014 video. I started a post on such. That said and perhaps it was a slip, but we are a Republic (for which it stands) and not a democracy in spite of all teh misdirected wording used commonly today. Having concerns I can understand, but hopefully your concerns were much greater in the last four years as to all the problems that were created that have to be dealt with today.

Now do you have concerns that a certain group and media are more concerned about the messenger than the message ? What the message is saying is fraud costing taxpayers billions yearly AND enhancing the opportunity for fraud when voting. There is a HUGE problem that was created recently and others that have went on for decades and teh American taxpayer has been royally screwed with generation after generation having their money stolen.

Still, I understand people having concerns because this is not the way things have been done in the past as there has never been transparency into the payout for anyone to know as politicians gained more wealth than their salary would allow and the rapid findings could make a lot of people uneasy. It will be interesting this FRiday when an Obama appointed judge rules on the injunction Latita James filed to slow down or stop Elon from making public his findings. The uneasy feelings you have are understandable, because this may turn out to be the most consequential presidential election for many decades and change with findings as we see can do that...

You never overreacted...you just have some concerns
the government is necessarily slowly moving. There is really no other mathematically plausible way to have adequate checks and balances without having a sclerotic government that is hard to move or steer. You truly can't have one without the other. Anything else is just magical thinking.

I had the fortune of starting a small tech startup like a decade ago. I remember the early days, just 2 or 3 of us, everything moved so fast. We saw a problem, it was fixed by the night. Features getting added in no time. Things moved fast and efficiently. then we got got bigger, and got to 100 employees. And everything became a drag. people would try to move fast, and fix things, and then end up just breaking more things. For every step we moved forward we took 2 steps backward. We finally had to sit down, and be honest with ourselves, a 100 person company is not 5-man startup. We needed processes and controls and more things. Did it slow things down. Absolutely!! did we start growing again. yes. Federal Government is a 2-million person corporation.

I am not saying federal government is efficient. There is no way to be that size and not be inefficient in many places. But big radical changes is not really possible without putting everything at risk e.g. giving DOGE unchecked powers/access. If Trump/Elon are indeed well-meaning (I am personally unconvinced they are), i wish them goodluck in this endeavor. Every $ federal government has some persons benefitting from it, and would have people fighting for it. The road they're taking is fraught with long-term peril. A single person having that much power and access is a threat to the system itself. Even if the current wielder of such powers is well-intentioned. There is no guarantee that a future wielder of such powers will be.
 
@tjreese correct we are a republic. I can live with bad governance (which for me are governments whose policies I tend to disagree with e.g. Reagan and GWB). my concerns are for our constitutional republic, not some government I disagree with.

I only have one request for people like you. Write down where you would draw the line about what would make you so concerned for our constitutional republic, and stow it away. so you may remind yourself one day (should the day ever come), what you had told yourself you won't stand for.
I'm unsure what "people like me" means rather than some that share "some" of my concerns and "some" of my wishes. With full disclosure I have some Libertarian leans, and generally want a "REDUCED" blob, because I know, and we all should know, that the bigger the blob the more waste. With a reduced blob, it will naturally force more involvement into it's purpose since the potential waste is smaller. I'm pretty independent and do a LOT of things on my own and old enough to have actually lived through many presidents. I prefer the fed government to have less of a role and the state to have a larger as was intended. So in a nutshell I want a less intrusive government that is smaller. We know from Price's Law the waste in groups. What DOGE is doing I experienced in a similar fashion a few decades ago when I requested data from a school without any names and such adn they replied that I could tie some data to a person which I couldn't but it was their way of not wanting exposed similar to what we are seeing now. I also corrected the Indiana Department of Education on their Analysis of Variance on reduced lunches. Their own data didn't support their contention and they knew it. They responded saying in spite of no support, they believed it, and removed the data from their site and never produced something similar for a few years...maybe never, but I'm no longer involved like I was. It isn't hard to find equalitarian push in group dynamics in schools.

All that said, no doubt there will be things that Trump will espouse I won't agree with, but I sure like shining a light on the corrupt findings that are being found and do want to reduce government. The problems found can also tie into fraud voting which is a problem. A large blob votes for their own paycheck...

So this is me, but you obviously have concerns and so what are they?
 
the government is necessarily slowly moving. There is really no other mathematically plausible way to have adequate checks and balances without having a sclerotic government that is hard to move or steer. You truly can't have one without the other. Anything else is just magical thinking.

I had the fortune of starting a small tech startup like a decade ago. I remember the early days, just 2 or 3 of us, everything moved so fast. We saw a problem, it was fixed by the night. Features getting added in no time. Things moved fast and efficiently. then we got got bigger, and got to 100 employees. And everything became a drag. people would try to move fast, and fix things, and then end up just breaking more things. For every step we moved forward we took 2 steps backward. We finally had to sit down, and be honest with ourselves, a 100 person company is not 5-man startup. We needed processes and controls and more things. Did it slow things down. Absolutely!! did we start growing again. yes. Federal Government is a 2-million person corporation.

I am not saying federal government is efficient. There is no way to be that size and not be inefficient in many places. But big radical changes is not really possible without putting everything at risk e.g. giving DOGE unchecked powers/access. If Trump/Elon are indeed well-meaning (I am personally unconvinced they are), i wish them goodluck in this endeavor. Every $ federal government has some persons benefitting from it, and would have people fighting for it. The road they're taking is fraught with long-term peril. A single person having that much power and access is a threat to the system itself. Even if the current wielder of such powers is well-intentioned. There is no guarantee that a future wielder of such powers will be.
No question for something to be permanent it will need congressional approval and why so many dem delays. Now, DOGE is finding fraud and finding it everywhere due to the blob's growth. Do you not approve of finding fraud? Do you not approve of the transparency of the fraud? Can you not account for your expenditures in your company? Could it not pass an outsider's adult if the audit purpose was to follow the spending? For the first time in my life a president, wants transparency.

Now, I agree with you in theory and historic theory, in respect that a single person does NOT have all the answers in spite of the dems believing that for a couple of hundred years and that evolution of an idea is typically the best. However, the findings of DOGE are pretty straight forward and something the public wanted and why we see distractions and to stop the messenger rather than addressing the messages full of fraud. Additionally, it isn't an "idea", but findings. How anyone can be concerned about the fraud found, and worried about it ,rather than how it came to be and who is profiting from it baffles me. It has been found and so we know for a fact those fears you have have been in existence for some time, and the desire to hire 87,000 IRS people to ensure the waste had a paycheck should be a concern for all. Don't you think the things you are seeing have been thrown around the last four years for such rapid success? Anyway, I understand your concerns, but don't share them to overturn what I think is important. I do however know you are sincere and appreciate your sincere desires. You handle yourself well... ;)
 
So Elon is doing essentially what Mikey Dickerson did for Obama in the unaffordable health care act and noted in an August 2014 video. I started a post on such. That said and perhaps it was a slip, but we are a Republic (for which it stands) and not a democracy in spite of all teh misdirected wording used commonly today. Having concerns I can understand, but hopefully your concerns were much greater in the last four years as to all the problems that were created that have to be dealt with today.

Now do you have concerns that a certain group and media are more concerned about the messenger than the message ? What the message is saying is fraud costing taxpayers billions yearly AND enhancing the opportunity for fraud when voting. There is a HUGE problem that was created recently and others that have went on for decades and teh American taxpayer has been royally screwed with generation after generation having their money stolen.

Still, I understand people having concerns because this is not the way things have been done in the past as there has never been transparency into the payout for anyone to know as politicians gained more wealth than their salary would allow and the rapid findings could make a lot of people uneasy. It will be interesting this FRiday when an Obama appointed judge rules on the injunction Latita James filed to slow down or stop Elon from making public his findings. The uneasy feelings you have are understandable, because this may turn out to be the most consequential presidential election for many decades and change with findings as we see can do that...

You never overreacted...you just have some concerns
A little more in New York that Latitia and her judge want stopped, because DOGE is finding too much Fraud. I assume this isn't news?

Musk Says FEMA Spent $59 Million Last Week on Housing Illegal Immigrants in NYC Hotels (spent here instead of North Carolina)

‘This stops now,’ said acting FEMA Administrator Cameron Hamilton, announcing that all such payments from FEMA were suspended on Feb. 9.

The U.S. Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) has found that the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) spent $59 million last week on continuing to house illegal immigrants in luxury hotels in New York City, according to Elon Musk.

“Sending this money violated the law and is in gross insubordination to the President’s executive order,” Musk wrote on social media platform X on Feb. 10. “That money is meant for American disaster relief and instead is being spent on high-end hotels for illegals!

“A clawback demand will be made today to recoup those funds.”

Acting FEMA Administrator Cameron Hamilton replied to Musk’s post, saying: “I want to thank the @DOGE team for making me aware of this. Effective yesterday these payments have all been suspended from FEMA. Personnel will be held accountable.”

Hamilton went on to say that Congress should have never asked FEMA to do that type of work in bills passed in 2023 and 2024.

“This stops now,” he said.

FEMA has been criticized for nearly a year over its disaster relief performance in western North Carolina after Hurricane Helene and reports of political bias within its ranks.

President Donald Trump signed an executive order on Jan. 24 after visiting the recovery areas of North Carolina. In the order, he called for the creation of a council to review FEMA.

“There are serious concerns of political bias in FEMA,” Trump stated in his order. “Indeed, at least one former FEMA responder has stated that FEMA managers directed her to avoid homes of individuals supporting the campaign of Donald J. Trump for President.

“And it has lost mission focus, diverting limited staff and resources to support missions beyond its scope and authority, spending well over a billion dollars to welcome illegal aliens.”

While speaking to reporters in North Carolina, the president also hinted at possibly getting rid of FEMA amid the reform attempts.

“Americans deserve an immediate, effective, and impartial response to and recovery from disasters,” he said in his order.

“FEMA therefore requires a full-scale review, by individuals highly experienced at effective disaster response and recovery, who shall recommend to the President improvements or structural changes to promote the national interest and enable national resilience.”

DOGE was created to review agency spending and identify potential cost reductions to boost government efficiency. Its investigations of federal spending have sparked resistance across the country, resulting in lawsuits from several attorneys general and labor unions seeking to prevent Musk and his team from accessing the Treasury and Labor departments.

However, Department of Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem, who oversees FEMA, said she welcomes DOGE’s audits of her agency’s data and supports a complete overhaul of emergency management.

“I would say, yes, get rid of FEMA the way it exists today. We still need the resources and the funds and the finances to go to people that have these types of disasters,” she said in a Feb. 9 interview on CNN’s “State of the Union.”

The news of FEMA’s continued funding of illegal immigrant housing has drawn comment from several lawmakers.

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, whose state has already launched a lawsuit against FEMA for reports of political discrimination, shared Musk’s post, saying this funding was “probably just scratching the surface of the mismanagement/corruption that has become so commonplace.”

Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.) commented: “Breaking the law and sending American’s tax dollars to house illegals. People need to go to jail for this.”
 
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No question for something to be permanent it will need congressional approval and why so many dem delays. Now, DOGE is finding fraud and finding it everywhere due to the blob's growth. Do you not approve of finding fraud? Do you not approve of the transparency of the fraud? Can you not account for your expenditures in your company? Could it not pass an outsider's adult if the audit purpose was to follow the spending? For the first time in my life a president, wants transparency.

Now, I agree with you in theory and historic theory, in respect that a single person does NOT have all the answers in spite of the dems believing that for a couple of hundred years and that evolution of an idea is typically the best. However, the findings of DOGE are pretty straight forward and something the public wanted and why we see distractions and to stop the messenger rather than addressing the messages full of fraud. Additionally, it isn't an "idea", but findings. How anyone can be concerned about the fraud found, and worried about it ,rather than how it came to be and who is profiting from it baffles me. It has been found and so we know for a fact those fears you have have been in existence for some time, and the desire to hire 87,000 IRS people to ensure the waste had a paycheck should be a concern for all. Don't you think the things you are seeing have been thrown around the last four years for such rapid success? Anyway, I understand your concerns, but don't share them to overturn what I think is important. I do however know you are sincere and appreciate your sincere desires. You handle yourself well... ;)
"How anyone can be concerned about the fraud found, and worried about it ,rather than how it came to be and who is profiting from it baffles me."

We should be worried about both.

Running roughshod over the constitution, not to mention the issues of national security and privacy, in order to find these problems in NOT ok. The ends do not justify the means.
 
If you guys can leave "owning the libs" for a second,
who is Musk accountable to?
also for those that adamantly support Trump right now, I only have one request. if democracy (despite all its flaws) is important to you, take a second and think hard, what is the line for you that will leave you wondering if our democracy is safe.

Figure what is it for you. write it down. Then go back to owning the libs. That's all i ask for.

Why am I asking you to write it down now? Because, a future may come that line gets crossed. but it will come gradually, not all of a sudden.

Me i see a lot of things that worry me. But maybe I am overreacting.
Yeh, you're definitely overreacting....You've bought into the lib Dem gibberish of "our democracy is at risk".....Give me a break.

Trump was elected to do the will of the people. He literally told you what he was going to do before he was even elected. Now he's doing what he promised and people are upset about it?

Trump is doing exactly what he was elected to do: Put America first and eliminate waste. I don't understand how any reasonable person could be against that.
 
"How anyone can be concerned about the fraud found, and worried about it ,rather than how it came to be and who is profiting from it baffles me."

We should be worried about both.

Running roughshod over the constitution, not to mention the issues of national security and privacy, in order to find these problems in NOT ok. The ends do not justify the means.
Can you cite any specifics on what is being done that's unconstitutional? Or, are you like Al Green and wanting to impeach Trump again for "dastardly deeds" (yes, that's actually what that moron said).
 
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