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Getting ready to send in my quarterly income tax check to the state and feds. All this protesting along with the destruction is really chapping my arse. :mad:
imagine living in a world where one party creates the mess and another party attempts to clean up the mess on all taxpayer's dime. Imagine that world where the same party that created the mess chooses to support those breaking the law...with some HUGE threats to a civilized world instead of supporting the side trying to fix the mess started by the other party. Imagine that party encouraging the flames, looting and destruction of property by political positions of that same party that initiated the destruction. Imagine, that destruction and costs paid for by government money...taxpayers in states with some sense of reality.

Imagine that the fundamental transformation of this country on steroids is only a couple of decades old. Imagine that there are millions of people too stupid to see the damage and huge cost to this country by this invasion...even today, but serve as useful idiots. Imagine going back to the same sources of information that lied to the public for years...for some unexplainable reason.

There are many more things that can be listed as many of us know, but at what point does one understand that explaining obvious things to those afflicted with mental deficiencies is next to impossible...most pushing for cradle to grave control or other signs of neurosis...even to the point of creating sanctuary cities to increase the body count through the census to enhance that control...and that same side with their useful idiots always outside the bounds of reality. It truly is The Twilight Zone!
 
Where is bni's analysis of the Biden open border policy?
Y'all know that crime rates have been low (with limited exceptions like 2020) for decades. There aren't enough criminals and gang members for Trump and Miller to arrest, so they're going after the dishwashers, chefs, day laborers, and high school students instead. It's a complete waste of taxpayer money.
 
Y'all know that crime rates have been low (with limited exceptions like 2020) for decades. There aren't enough criminals and gang members for Trump and Miller to arrest, so they're going after the dishwashers, chefs, day laborers, and high school students instead. It's a complete waste of taxpayer money.
Y'all know y'all not bni, right? Y'all think bni can't speak for himself because he's black?
 
Where is Mr. Sowell's analysis of the Jan 6 insurrection?
I don't believe he has ever supported the group of rioters out of the population of protesters against the insurrection of Nov 3, 2020 on J6. The circumstances of J7 and J6 are extremely different starting with legal citizens that are friends of the USA and illegals writing death to America while waving Mexico and Hamas flags. To pretend the circumstances are similar is to have an out of the body moment and that is if you ignore the looting, burning and rock throwing by the illegals. We have around 20 million illegals costing those that pay taxes for their keep...which reminds me...how do the rioters spend so much time absent working hours or are their working hours nonexistent and if so....who pays for their keep?
 
I don't believe he has ever supported the group of rioters out of the population of protesters against the insurrection of Nov 3, 2020 on J6. The circumstances of J7 and J6 are extremely different starting with legal citizens that are friends of the USA and illegals writing death to America while waving Mexico and Hamas flags. To pretend the circumstances are similar is to have an out of the body moment and that is if you ignore the looting, burning and rock throwing by the illegals. We have around 20 million illegals costing those that pay taxes for their keep...which reminds me...how do the rioters spend so much time absent working hours or are their working hours nonexistent and if so....who pays for their keep?
Those so called legal citizens and friends of the US were calling for the death of the congress members and the even the VP. In addition to injuring hundreds of police officers. Plus trying to stop the constitutional process of certifying the 2020 election.
 
I don't believe he has ever supported the group of rioters out of the population of protesters against the insurrection of Nov 3, 2020 on J6. The circumstances of J7 and J6 are extremely different starting with legal citizens that are friends of the USA and illegals writing death to America while waving Mexico and Hamas flags. To pretend the circumstances are similar is to have an out of the body moment and that is if you ignore the looting, burning and rock throwing by the illegals. We have around 20 million illegals costing those that pay taxes for their keep...which reminds me...how do the rioters spend so much time absent working hours or are their working hours nonexistent and if so....who pays for their keep?
Come on Tj. There was looting, burning, and rock throwing on J6 as well. You can also say the exact same thing about the rioters on J6 rioting during working hours, except January 6 was actually during the work week (it was a Wednesday). Also, if you are going to say it is only a certain population on January 6, it is also only a certain population doing these things in LA. If you are going to say the LA stuff is worse, please don't be biased and point to the actual differences.
 
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Come on Tj. There was looting, burning, and rock throwing on J6 as well. You can also say the exact same thing about the rioters on J6 rioting during working hours, except January 6 was actually during the work week (it was a Wednesday). Also, if you are going to say it is only a certain population on January 6, it is also only a certain population doing these things in LA. If you are going to say the LA stuff is worse, please don't be biased and point to the actual differences.
A few hours versus days is a big difference so far. Wait until Saturday to see what they do.
 
Come on Tj. There was looting, burning, and rock throwing on J6 as well. You can also say the exact same thing about the rioters on J6 rioting during working hours, except January 6 was actually during the work week (it was a Wednesday). Also, if you are going to say it is only a certain population on January 6, it is also only a certain population doing these things in LA. If you are going to say the LA stuff is worse, please don't be biased and point to the actual differences.
Have you forgotten Pelosi took responsibility for 'not having them prepared'? Or do you think she cannot be trusted?

 
I don't understand how this is related to my post, which was focused on being non-biased between the differences between the protesters in LA now and on January 6.
In each case, Trump called for the National Guard to back up law enforcement.
 
In the current case, violence has been kept in check by the National Guard called for by Trump. On J6, violence also would have been kept in check by the National Guard called for by Trump - but Pelosi and the mayor declined his offer.

That Trump offered the NG for J6 shows he had no intent to overthrow the government. Right?
 
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In the current case, violence has been kept in check by the National Guard called for by Trump. On J6, violence also would have been kept in check by the National Guard called for by Trump - but Pelosi and the mayor declined his offer.

That Trump offered the NG for J6 shows he had no intent to overthrow the government. Right?
I'm not sure Trump called in the national guard on January 6. I mean if we would have they would have come right? He was the president at the time. Pelosi was the speaker of the house. She would not have had the authority to call or block the national guard even if she had wanted to.. Same with the mayor of DC.
 
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Come on Tj. There was looting, burning, and rock throwing on J6 as well. You can also say the exact same thing about the rioters on J6 rioting during working hours, except January 6 was actually during the work week (it was a Wednesday). Also, if you are going to say it is only a certain population on January 6, it is also only a certain population doing these things in LA. If you are going to say the LA stuff is worse, please don't be biased and point to the actual differences.
it is a certain population doing the J7, but there are many democrat congress people fanning the flames. The J7 were a lot of older people...people that may have been retired and if not retired taxpayers for many years. The Republicans never condoned those that rioted on J6 like the dems did during the whole summer of love and J7. Things are quite different. I don't even recall the J6 crowd chanting death to America and waving a flag other than the USA, let alone desecrating buildings.

J6 were legal citizens upset with all the fraud and manipulation of the voting which was supported by statistical abnormalities. Those people that participated by rioting, which was wrong, were due to the strange voting (concentrated voting, with some more than eligible voters, uncharacteristically voting trends of swing states and stated that correlated with winning the state and lastly and increased population voting well above the projected model or turnout for 2020...which fell back to an expected range in 2024 all with Biden absent hiding in the basement). Instead, people didn't want to experience the heat from both sides to really investigate and recounting bad votes was useless. J7, no doubt had illegals in the streets waving other country flags. The few minutes in a localized area of J6 doesn't begin to compare to months of destruction that went on in the Summer Of Love in various locations...again with democrat approval. Very different are the two being compared.
 
In the current case, violence has been kept in check by the National Guard called for by Trump. On J6, violence also would have been kept in check by the National Guard called for by Trump - but Pelosi and the mayor declined his offer.

That Trump offered the NG for J6 shows he had no intent to overthrow the government. Right?
The REAL coup happened with the auto pen
 
it is a certain population doing the J7, but there are many democrat congress people fanning the flames. The J7 were a lot of older people...people that may have been retired and if not retired taxpayers for many years. The Republicans never condoned those that rioted on J6 like the dems did during the whole summer of love and J7. Things are quite different. I don't even recall the J6 crowd chanting death to America and waving a flag other than the USA, let alone desecrating buildings.
There is a lot here..

A lot of older retired people? I'm assuming you have a source for that one.

There was a skull and cross bone flag with a noose earmarked for our vice president.

I also am curious as to your definition of desecrating buildings. Would you consider breaking and entering into the capital building and looting the capital building desecrating?

The republicans did not condone those that rioted? Isn't Trump actively pardoning all those in jail for the riots and didn't republicans like MTG visit those in jail for it saying she would get them out?

J6 were legal citizens upset with all the fraud and manipulation of the voting which was supported by statistical abnormalities. Those people that participated by rioting, which was wrong, were due to the strange voting (concentrated voting, with some more than eligible voters, uncharacteristically voting trends of swing states and stated that correlated with winning the state and lastly and increased population voting well above the projected model or turnout for 2020...which fell back to an expected range in 2024 all with Biden absent hiding in the basement). Instead, people didn't want to experience the heat from both sides to really investigate and recounting bad votes was useless. J7, no doubt had illegals in the streets waving other country flags. The few minutes in a localized area of J6 doesn't begin to compare to months of destruction that went on in the Summer Of Love in various locations...again with democrat approval. Very different are the two being compared.
Not worth arguing over. Courts have already made their statement on this.
 
I'm not sure Trump called in the national guard on January 6. I mean if we would have they would have come right? He was the president at the time. Pelosi was the speaker of the house. She would not have had the authority to call or block the national guard even if she had wanted to.. Same with the mayor of DC.
It was Trump's responsibility to call the National Guard. He chose not to do that. Meanwhile, the protests in LA have been mostly peaceful, and Trump is acting like it's D-Day.
 
Y'all know y'all not bni, right? Y'all think bni can't speak for himself because he's black?
You didn't answer my question. Instead you used a rhetorical deflection because you can't respond effectively to my arguments. You also can't respond to bni's but that's another issue.
 
It was Trump's responsibility to call the National Guard. He chose not to do that. Meanwhile, the protests in LA have been mostly peaceful, and Trump is acting like it's D-Day.
Trump offered the National Guard. He did not order them.
If he had ordered them they would have been there.
Nancy said no thanks.
I guess you could say both fked up. Hind site is always 20/20.
RDU wtf, have you watched the news? Peaceful protests, these are riots!
 
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I'm not sure Trump called in the national guard on January 6. I mean if we would have they would have come right? He was the president at the time. Pelosi was the speaker of the house. She would not have had the authority to call or block the national guard even if she had wanted to.. Same with the mayor of DC.
Now you can be sure. Sworn testimony was somehow overlooked by Pelosi's corrupt J6 committee. Bowser turned down the offer.

 
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You didn't answer my question. Instead you used a rhetorical deflection because you can't respond effectively to my arguments. You also can't respond to bni's but that's another issue.
Y'all had an argument? I thought y'all was joking.

What was y'all's argument?
 
There is a lot here..

1) A lot of older retired people? I'm assuming you have a source for that one.

2) There was a skull and cross bone flag with a noose earmarked for our vice president.

3) I also am curious as to your definition of desecrating buildings. Would you consider breaking and entering into the capital building and looting the capital building desecrating?

4) The republicans did not condone those that rioted? Isn't Trump actively pardoning all those in jail for the riots and didn't republicans like MTG visit those in jail for it saying she would get them out?


5) Not worth arguing over. Courts have already made their statement on this.

1) visual, easy to see the difference in age in videos for many of the people (protesters with some rioters vs rioters) which suggest taxpayers for a long time vs...taxpayers???? for a few years.
2) no idea about the single flag. Was this a protester or rioter...I have no idea?
3) I certainly don't consider "entering" without breaking in desecrating. Do you really want to compare the duration, costs to taxpayers, deaths as a result or another metric between the organized riots of J6 with J7? Really, you consider them equal?
4)The republicans did NOT condone those that rioted on J6. Many video exist showing the dems doing the opposite. I don't know who or what MTG is or any influence to suggest such a thing. Did she have an auto pen? Trump pardoned those after already serving a few years, none equivalent to the auto pen during Biden's time.
5) there is no argument. What I said was true. There were statistical abnormalities and we already know things that went on. A few thousand votes would make a huge difference in some states, "IF" the magnitude was large enough. We know the direction of the votes, but do NOT know the magnitude. Still, the whole process for any that discern are aware of the unusual events in addition to the numbers.
 
"Trump told reporters in the Oval Office on Thursday that he had not uncovered any evidence that the documents were signed without Biden's approval." https://www.npr.org/2025/06/05/nx-s1-5424313/trump-investigation-biden-autopen-cognitive-decline.

Dang. You've really gone down the rabbit hole on the Internet. That's a further right conspiracy than I would've expected. Same with the fake vote thing. You okay?
I've looked all around and can't find electrons exist. Absent any evidence I'm convinced they don't. Wasn't NPR losing money due to the biased take? That doesn't mean that ALL of their stances are strongly biased, but they certainly have a lean.
 
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Yep. He's got no problem sending the Guard to LA but refused when the violence was a few blocks away from him.
Yep that’s how it went down. Did you not watch the tape that Riviting posted? You are either being argumentative or just a plain idiot.
 
Yep that’s how it went down. Did you not watch the tape that Riviting posted? You are either being argumentative or just a plain idiot.
Is that the first time you've seen that? Fresh news to you?

Trump watched the sh/t going down on TV, live in real time, blocks away, for HOURS and did nothing to stop it.
 
safe to say Trump learned a lot from his first time.
Not really. The LA protests gives him a chance to play tough and make all you MAGA types happy and fulfilled. Also gives him the first opportunity to physically crack down on dissent. He wasn't going to try and stop the violence on J6 cause those were his people. It was a day of love.
 
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