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IU's Next BB Coach is

Jack the Donkey. A stand in guest.

You guys only get a Woodson coached team once more; enjoy while you can.
I like Woody, not so much as a coach, but for his demeanor...he is interesting . If gone, and it certainly appears that way, the guy I would miss most if let go is the Armond Hill. Watching him emotionless staring into space makes for an interesting backdrop to the mantra's chanted by the cheerleader's droning.
 
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I like Woody, not so much as a coach, but for his demeanor...he is interesting . If gone, and it certainly appears that way, the guy I would miss most if let go is the Armond Hill. Watching him emotionless staring into space makes for an interesting backdrop to the mantra's chanted by the cheerleader's droning.
Hill is only around because of Woodson. Next coach won't keep any of this staff around. I don't even know why Woody trust Hill with anything related to basketball. The dudes time in college was overseeing Columbias worst basketball seasons in their history with a record of 72-141 over 8 seasons. He was a good player though back in the 70s. Helped lead Princeton to an NIT title one year and was the Ivy League POY in 75-76.
 
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Had 2 deep discussions yesterday (1 former student manager and 1 former trustee member)..

They both thought May was 1a, Cronin 1b and they both felt Beard would not be in the top 5 candidates. I'll be honest, that shocks me.

The former trustee was explaining Woodson's private location. Where he has his wine and cigars. Stating it was a provided perk for him. He has been there before. I laughed and said "perk for losing".
 
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Had 2 deep discussions yesterday (1 former student manager and 1 former trustee member)..

They both thought May was 1a, Cronin 1b and they both felt Beard would not be in the top 5 candidates. I'll be honest, that shocks me.

The former trustee was explaining Woodson's private location. Where he has his wine and cigars. Stating it was a provided perk for him. He has been there before. I laughed and said "perk for losing".
I would bet the IU President would have to sign off on a Beard hire. And I’m guessing SHE might have objections to him…
 
Hill is only around because of Woodson. Next coach won't keep any of this staff around. I don't even know why Woody trust Hill with anything related to basketball. The dudes time in college was overseeing Columbias worst basketball seasons in their history with a record of 72-141 over 8 seasons. He was a good player though back in the 70s. Helped lead Princeton to an NIT title one year and was the Ivy League POY in 75-76.
You know more about this guy than the Purdue IU rivalry
 
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So let me throw out a hoped for zero trolling or snark question for Purdue fans:

As a fan base that generally wants IU to fail, which hire would give IU the best chance of success?

While I can’t prevent sarcastic or off-point answers like Painter or Wooden, I’m truly interested in which legit hire would cause you to think “they really got it right this time.” I sometimes come here to get perspective without crimson colored glasses and therefore your answers will be interesting.

Thanks
 
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So let me throw out a hoped for zero trolling or snark question for Purdue fans:

As a fan base that generally wants IU to fail, which hire would give IU the best chance of success?

While I can’t prevent sarcastic or off-point answers like Painter or Wooden, I’m truly interested in which legit hire would cause you to think “they really got it right this time.” I sometimes come here to get perspective without crimson colored glasses and therefore your answers will be interesting.

Thanks
I think the main thing is your fan base needs to give whoever it is, 3-4 years to build a program his way with culture and his recruits/transfers. Expectations need to be lowered…like to just make the torurney first year, compete for big ten top 4 second year, compete to win big ten in year 3-4 and make second weekend by year 4.

No coach is going to be successful with the attitude the majority of the IU fan base has.

We don’t know the solution, but IMO Will Wade, Beard or Shrewsberry would be great hires. Shrews is the cleanest and knows this state for recruiting better than those guys . But both of those guys have been successful wherever they have gone…wade is like 55-6 at Mcneese right now and had LSU doing pretty well right before NIL started.

With that said, again, the fan base NEEDS to give whomever it is at least 4 years, if not 5, to build something.
 
So let me throw out a hoped for zero trolling or snark question for Purdue fans:

As a fan base that generally wants IU to fail, which hire would give IU the best chance of success?

While I can’t prevent sarcastic or off-point answers like Painter or Wooden, I’m truly interested in which legit hire would cause you to think “they really got it right this time.” I sometimes come here to get perspective without crimson colored glasses and therefore your answers will be interesting.

Thanks
Honestly, for me it would be Beard. I've heard from to many sources that he won't even get an interview, but he would be a good hire. IMO.

I'll probably say they'll go with Cronin and he'll accept. I heard May's inlaws and Father still live in Gloomington. If so, that would have been a better, longer and more sustainable hire.
 
So let me throw out a hoped for zero trolling or snark question for Purdue fans:

As a fan base that generally wants IU to fail, which hire would give IU the best chance of success?

While I can’t prevent sarcastic or off-point answers like Painter or Wooden, I’m truly interested in which legit hire would cause you to think “they really got it right this time.” I sometimes come here to get perspective without crimson colored glasses and therefore your answers will be interesting.

Thanks
I think there are a lot of coaches that could do well especially with NIL behind them. What doesn't change is that coach won't automatically get the best talent in Indiana when he starts and will need to assemble the portal more than if a successful coach was already there. What is the culture of the student body? I know in the past there was some blaming of the flock of east coast students for some of IU's mishaps. Could that...is that a potential problem out of the control of the coach? I believe there are coaches we are unaware that are very good, but things haven't broke for them to generate the publicity. Those coaches will be hungry while established coaches may or may not. It is always a guess, but typically the best guess that wins out
 
I think the main thing is your fan base needs to give whoever it is, 3-4 years to build a program his way with culture and his recruits/transfers. Expectations need to be lowered…like to just make the torurney first year, compete for big ten top 4 second year, compete to win big ten in year 3-4 and make second weekend by year 4.

No coach is going to be successful with the attitude the majority of the IU fan base has.

We don’t know the solution, but IMO Will Wade, Beard or Shrewsberry would be great hires. Shrews is the cleanest and knows this state for recruiting better than those guys . But both of those guys have been successful wherever they have gone…wade is like 55-6 at Mcneese right now and had LSU doing pretty well right before NIL started.

With that said, again, the fan base NEEDS to give whomever it is at least 4 years, if not 5, to build something.
That’s an interesting answer, considering that Wade is currently under a show cause and Beard is an alcoholic coming off a domestic violence arrest that was dropped. Both those guys are fantastic ball coaches and win wherever they go. They’d also be really fun for Purdue fans to root against!

Your third choice, Shrewsberry is almost the polar opposite: by all accounts a really great guy, but just never has won very much as a division one head coach, and the track record is getting longer. He’d be a terrible guy for Purdue a root against if he succeeded!
 
That’s an interesting answer, considering that Wade is currently under a show cause and Beard is an alcoholic coming off a domestic violence arrest that was dropped. Both those guys are fantastic ball coaches and win wherever they go. They’d also be really fun for Purdue fans to root against!

Your third choice, Shrewsberry is almost the polar opposite: by all accounts a really great guy, but just never has won very much as a division one head coach, and the track record is getting longer. He’d be a terrible guy for Purdue a root against if he succeeded!
What would be interesting is a guy like Shrews has a comparable offensive mindset like Paint.

It could evolve into the old Keady vs. RMK days with 2 great coaches who had the same demeanor in coaching and both being friends off the court.
 
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That’s an interesting answer, considering that Wade is currently under a show cause and Beard is an alcoholic coming off a domestic violence arrest that was dropped. Both those guys are fantastic ball coaches and win wherever they go. They’d also be really fun for Purdue fans to root against!

Your third choice, Shrewsberry is almost the polar opposite: by all accounts a really great guy, but just never has won very much as a division one head coach, and the track record is getting longer. He’d be a terrible guy for Purdue a root against if he succeeded!
Shrews, I’m biased I won’t lie, would be one that could right the ship and get IU back on track. However, it may take him 4-6 years to do so. Once that happens, I think he’d have IU back to where fans think it should be on a consistent annual basis.

You’re right tho, he hasn’t won much to date at PSU or ND. Although, he made PSU relevant that last year he was there. He noted that PSU was not willing to play the NIL game and he didnt have much support from fans for bball. Next year will be huge for him with the big recruiting class he has.

I don’t think IU fans would like this hire, nor give him the time that would be needed.

Beard and Wade could probably win quicker but I could see IU not be that consistent. Not sure those two would recruit the state like Shrews would. And of course, there’s the baggage that comes with these two. But had Wade done what he did now, it wouldn’t really be that big of a deal, correct? I think with these two, or maybe moreso beard, that something could happen again.
 
I think the main thing is your fan base needs to give whoever it is, 3-4 years to build a program his way with culture and his recruits/transfers. Expectations need to be lowered…like to just make the torurney first year, compete for big ten top 4 second year, compete to win big ten in year 3-4 and make second weekend by year 4.

No coach is going to be successful with the attitude the majority of the IU fan base has.

We don’t know the solution, but IMO Will Wade, Beard or Shrewsberry would be great hires. Shrews is the cleanest and knows this state for recruiting better than those guys . But both of those guys have been successful wherever they have gone…wade is like 55-6 at Mcneese right now and had LSU doing pretty well right before NIL started.

With that said, again, the fan base NEEDS to give whomever it is at least 4 years, if not 5, to build something.
Archie was given 4 years and it was plain as day, he was way over his head. Woodson, 4 years and plain as day, he just doesn't care to put in any real effort to be a college basketball coach(because you actually have to work). Crean was given 9 years. And 3 free years of no expectations. Indiana fans are pretty patient. Places like UNC and UK have proven in the past, they'll fire you after 2 years if that's what best and they can get someone better(UK fired Gillespie, UNC fired Daugherty after 2 band seasons and hired Cal and Roy). Indiana had one too many morons not wanting to move from Woodson after last year. Had too many morons in 2000 to not give Mike Davis a pay on the back after a year and go hire Pitino. Too many wanting the program to go in the trash for 20 years.
 
So let me throw out a hoped for zero trolling or snark question for Purdue fans:

As a fan base that generally wants IU to fail, which hire would give IU the best chance of success?

While I can’t prevent sarcastic or off-point answers like Painter or Wooden, I’m truly interested in which legit hire would cause you to think “they really got it right this time.” I sometimes come here to get perspective without crimson colored glasses and therefore your answers will be interesting.

Thanks
I know you're going to throw up on this one, but Alford. HS coaches still know him which helps with recruiting the state, he's been successful at all his stops, his teams play hard, and Steve's a pretty damn good coach. Now fire away.
 
So let me throw out a hoped for zero trolling or snark question for Purdue fans:

As a fan base that generally wants IU to fail, which hire would give IU the best chance of success?

While I can’t prevent sarcastic or off-point answers like Painter or Wooden, I’m truly interested in which legit hire would cause you to think “they really got it right this time.” I sometimes come here to get perspective without crimson colored glasses and therefore your answers will be interesting.

Thanks
From the names that are talked about? Beard.

End of discussion.
 
So let me throw out a hoped for zero trolling or snark question for Purdue fans:

As a fan base that generally wants IU to fail, which hire would give IU the best chance of success?

While I can’t prevent sarcastic or off-point answers like Painter or Wooden, I’m truly interested in which legit hire would cause you to think “they really got it right this time.” I sometimes come here to get perspective without crimson colored glasses and therefore your answers will be interesting.

Thanks
I don't know what your definition is of a "legit hire" but the absolute best hire for you and worst for us would be Pearl. He'd make you a winner right away, and by right away, I mean year one. Total scum, but why would that stop you?

Distant 2nd - Beard

3rd Cronin
 
So let me throw out a hoped for zero trolling or snark question for Purdue fans:

As a fan base that generally wants IU to fail, which hire would give IU the best chance of success?

While I can’t prevent sarcastic or off-point answers like Painter or Wooden, I’m truly interested in which legit hire would cause you to think “they really got it right this time.” I sometimes come here to get perspective without crimson colored glasses and therefore your answers will be interesting.

Thanks
I can't think of a realistic hire that would really worry me. Beard would win but perhaps not at the levels IU fans are seeking and I think hiring him would be somewhat embarrassing given his baggage. If I were making the hire I'd go with McCollum. I know some fans might not like the fact that he doesn't have the track record at the high major level but he can clearly coach and I think he's their most realistic shot at hiring someone who has long-term, elite upside. A little risk that he hasn't had to handle the CEO type position that coaching at a high profile job requires but I'm willing to roll the dice that if you give him the job and the NIL money they have that he will consistently put a highly competitive team on the floor.

As a Purdue fan, I assume that IU will eventually hire a decent coach. It's kind of surprising they have screwed it up as many times as they have. That said, we are a top ten program right now so if IU improves I don't think that threatens what we're doing. Especially since I can't see IU building their teams the same way we do since they have committed to being an NIL factory.
 
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So let me throw out a hoped for zero trolling or snark question for Purdue fans:

As a fan base that generally wants IU to fail, which hire would give IU the best chance of success?

While I can’t prevent sarcastic or off-point answers like Painter or Wooden, I’m truly interested in which legit hire would cause you to think “they really got it right this time.” I sometimes come here to get perspective without crimson colored glasses and therefore your answers will be interesting.

Thanks
Biuzz Williams would concern me— I was impressed how he handed Purdue long before Doyel got on board….
 
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