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IU did not deserve to be in CFP. Great article by USA Today

Thats also how we know you have more than one login on here, every single one has the same bad grammar and can't count to 10. And all of them use "LOL" more than a 13 year old does.

We would all laugh at you more if just wasn't so pathetically sad.
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And like clockwork, you show up on your other account. And we see you still can't count to four. So sad.
 
And like clockwork, you show up on your other account. And we see you still can't count to four. So sad.
We finally agree on something: I have no idea what you are talking about, and neither do you.

Go back to your grammar policing— vitally important work for you and a key feature of a message board with no moderators.
 
I have no idea what you are talking about
A phrase you have likely said many times in your life. I mean you do understand that not being able to count is not the same as grammar right? (That is what is called a rhetorical question).

You are seriously one sad individual that still can't count to 4. I honestly feel sorry for you.
 
I don’t know who you are but using 5-0 is truly ironic arguing about indiana football being good when historically they were the worst program in P5 history and your name mocks Purdue for winning 5 championships before your lifetime when Purdue has dominated indiana in recent history.

Anyways i continue to say indiana deserved to play in the playoffs. I don’t think they were the best 12 teams. Im not even sure they were the 4th best team in the big ten, if they play Michigan in Ann Arbor do they win that game? How about Illinois, wisconsin, Iowa, or even Minnesota? We will never know as they didn’t play each other and not enough body of work. But the CFP selection process this year I agree they deserved to get in and also agree there is a huge drop off after 6 teams.

What we do know and is relevant to these conversations is it has been widely reported they would see how it went this year and make changes. And with the reactions we are seeing I do expect we will see some changes. Tv ratings were favorable so I don’t expect we will see a reduction in games. Maybe less byes for automatic qualifiers and you out the best teams regardless of AQs so the first round of games are more evenly matched up and the clear bear get the byes. So Penn state and Texas get byes and in indianas case they probably play noise state in the first round and make that more exciting. Or get rid of AQs. Or they use quad games like in basketball. Not sure if that eliminates indiana still in the case for this year.
You make some good points and I am the first person to acknowledge IU’s horrible history in football, that’s clearly documented. IU might have lost some of those hypothetical games that you suggested, especially at Michigan.

I am also fine with the automatic qualifiers, but I hope the top 4 ranked teams are given the byes moving forward.

I assume that I am older than you because I have had the username 5-0 whenever I signed up at peegs.com around 2002. I don’t mind your username, you are a fan Purdue, no big deal.
 
You make some good points and I am the first person to acknowledge IU’s horrible history in football, that’s clearly documented. IU might have lost some of those hypothetical games that you suggested, especially at Michigan.

I am also fine with the automatic qualifiers, but I hope the top 4 ranked teams are given the byes moving forward.

I assume that I am older than you because I have had the username 5-0 whenever I signed up at peegs.com around 2002. I don’t mind your username, you are a fan Purdue, no big deal.
How do you feel about quad games?
 
How do you feel about quad games?
Quad games could work and help to potentially put a value on wins. Due to IU’s weak schedule, the quad system probably would have told a similar story for IU…lots of wins, but didn’t beat any elite teams. The quad system probably would have hurt IU compared to other CFP contenders because margin of victory doesn’t matter.
 
How do you feel about quad games?
Are you talking about quads like basketball has the NET? Could be done but it would be hard with so few games. That's the good thing about basketball, there are twice as many games so you get a good sample size. But even with BCS rankings, I believe Indiana was still in. SMU might have been as well. Alabama probably hurt more by it than it was by the committee. But it'd be interesting to see how a NET style rating would work. It would have still greatly favored Indiana. Which the FPS or whatever it's called did as well. I think you'd be surprised that the rankings wouldn't change a whole lot. Humans and computers don't ever seem to be too far off.
 
Are you talking about quads like basketball has the NET? Could be done but it would be hard with so few games. That's the good thing about basketball, there are twice as many games so you get a good sample size. But even with BCS rankings, I believe Indiana was still in. SMU might have been as well. Alabama probably hurt more by it than it was by the committee. But it'd be interesting to see how a NET style rating would work. It would have still greatly favored Indiana. Which the FPS or whatever it's called did as well. I think you'd be surprised that the rankings wouldn't change a whole lot. Humans and computers don't ever seem to be too far off.
Yea that is what I mean. There are also fewer teams so smaller sample size might be OK as long as quads are adjusted accordingly. I do agree indiana likely would still have made it. But it would effectively address the schedule or at least optics of it.

Bottom line is indiana really did fans and college football a disservice when it cancelled its game against Louisville. This debate about indiana wouldn’t be happening if they had not done this. There is precedent for “punishing” teams for bad schedules (TCU, Ball State, Florida State, etc) but we should be rewarding schools for playing good teams. Indiana getting in sends a horrible message that the pathway to the playoffs is easiest if you schedule cupcakes. I would rather incentivize teams into scheduling exciting non-conf games.
 
Yea that is what I mean. There are also fewer teams so smaller sample size might be OK as long as quads are adjusted accordingly. I do agree indiana likely would still have made it. But it would effectively address the schedule or at least optics of it.

Bottom line is indiana really did fans and college football a disservice when it cancelled its game against Louisville. This debate about indiana wouldn’t be happening if they had not done this. There is precedent for “punishing” teams for bad schedules (TCU, Ball State, Florida State, etc) but we should be rewarding schools for playing good teams. Indiana getting in sends a horrible message that the pathway to the playoffs is easiest if you schedule cupcakes. I would rather incentivize teams into scheduling exciting non-conf games.
Yes IU had a totally PUD schedule. New recipe for getting in the playoffs. Didn't do them much good though. They still got smashed when it counted.
 
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Yea that is what I mean. There are also fewer teams so smaller sample size might be OK as long as quads are adjusted accordingly. I do agree indiana likely would still have made it. But it would effectively address the schedule or at least optics of it.

Bottom line is indiana really did fans and college football a disservice when it cancelled its game against Louisville. This debate about indiana wouldn’t be happening if they had not done this. There is precedent for “punishing” teams for bad schedules (TCU, Ball State, Florida State, etc) but we should be rewarding schools for playing good teams. Indiana getting in sends a horrible message that the pathway to the playoffs is easiest if you schedule cupcakes. I would rather incentivize teams into scheduling exciting non-conf games.
But would that game against Louisville even mattered? For one, you act like Indiana cancelled it right before the season started. When in fact, it was cancelled before the first game of the series was ever played back in 2023. And Louisville is on the same level as the Washingtons, Nebraskas and Michigan of college football... Who Indiana beat. So even if Indiana played and beat them, people would still be claiming that Indiana played a soft schedule because a 7 win Louisville isn't good.
 
Odd way to look at things considering ranked teams win 80% vs unranked teams.
True... But Ole Miss lost to Kentucky. Alabama lost to Vandy. Alabama got destroyed by Oklahoma. Tennessee lost to Arkansas. Notre Dame lost to NIU. Ohio State lost to Michigan. It was something that happened to multiple Top 15 teams this year.
 
True... But Ole Miss lost to Kentucky. Alabama lost to Vandy. Alabama got destroyed by Oklahoma. Tennessee lost to Arkansas. Notre Dame lost to NIU. Ohio State lost to Michigan. It was something that happened to multiple Top 15 teams this year.

Keep scrolling and you'll find IU.......
 
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What if we did
But would that game against Louisville even mattered? For one, you act like Indiana cancelled it right before the season started. When in fact, it was cancelled before the first game of the series was ever played back in 2023. And Louisville is on the same level as the Washingtons, Nebraskas and Michigan of college football... Who Indiana beat. So even if Indiana played and beat them, people would still be claiming that Indiana played a soft schedule because a 7 win Louisville isn't good.
the Louisville game was a road game. Would have easily been Indianas best win. Their best road win was ucla.
 
IU sucks, now STFU

You are an idiot. Georgia actually looked like the better team, just made some mistakes, largely by their backup qb. Indiana was dominated by ND.

Since you don’t seem to be willing to answer, I will:

Indiana lost to ND by 10. At Notre Dame.
Georgia lost to ND by 13. At a neutral site.

I’m not a Purdue STEM guy, but I am sure that losing by 13 at a neutral site is a larger loss than losing by 10 at a team’s home stadium.

To not understand that you’d have to either have trouble counting, or be Paul Finebaum or Herbstreit level delusional.
 
You are an idiot. Georgia actually looked like the better team, just made some mistakes, largely by their backup qb. Indiana was dominated by ND.
Yeah they think those garbage touchdowns they got mean something... ND essentially made Indinia look like a JV squad until they let up the gas. And as much as I hate ND, giving them any sort of "kudos" is painful to say the least :)......... but it's fact, Indinia like SMU just didn't belong and both of those teams getting throttled proved it.

But trying to explain that to a guy with at least 3 IDs on here is just futile. He can't even count to 10 for crying out loud.
 
Yeah they think those garbage touchdowns they got mean something... ND essentially made Indinia look like a JV squad until they let up the gas. And as much as I hate ND, giving them any sort of "kudos" is painful to say the least :)......... but it's fact, Indinia like SMU just didn't belong and both of those teams getting throttled proved it.

But trying to explain that to a guy with at least 3 IDs on here is just futile. He can't even count to 10 for crying out loud.
or the fact of not beating one ranked opponent and losing badly to both. His response was those teams lost to unranked teams.....just proves the point that they can beat anyone and IU just simply can't and why they didn't belong.
 
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Maybe you watched a different game, I saw him overthrow his receivers some and his fumble at the end of the first half was not great.
Interesting that his coach and pretty much every media report blamed dropped passes and bad special teams and o-line play as the main reasons Georgia lost. The Georgia QB was 20-32 with a touchdown, no interceptions, and a fumble on a blind-side hit.

From the CBS Sports game article:

"The Bulldogs don't have a quarterback problem. Gunner Stockton was an absolute gamer in the face of intense pressure — both because of the venue, circumstances and because of Notre Dame's furious pass rush. The offensive line, as it has this season, struggled to open holes for running backs and were leaky against another defensive front.

Meanwhile, the defense was pushed around up front and gave up too many chunk plays in big situations. That's not necessarily a killer, especially in a game in which the defense only gave up 16 points.

No, the biggest issue for Georgia is at receiver. The Bulldogs' receiving corps has dropped at least 36 passes during the 2024 season, including a massive drop on a would-be touchdown by Dillon Bell in the third quarter, according to ESPN's research. That is unacceptable for any championship-chasing team, and it's a big reason why the Bulldogs trailed at halftime in seven games this season — and lost three."
 
66 to 0 which means Purdue sucks to be on that PUD schedule.
Well we did fire our coach. I guess that makes you puff out your chest when you beat a team with only 1 victory? IU looked like shit against ND. ND beat Georgia but that was with a quarterback that had never started a game for them. Crow again. IU still sucks. You know it and we know it. Hell the entire college world knows it. Piss and moan at them. We know that you brought in an entirely new team, played a wuss schedule, got your asses handed to you by ND and all you can do is cry for validation. Go watch your newly paid for Bball team and crow about their victory over Rutgers.
 
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Yeah they think those garbage touchdowns they got mean something... ND essentially made Indinia look like a JV squad until they let up the gas. And as much as I hate ND, giving them any sort of "kudos" is painful to say the least :)......... but it's fact, Indinia like SMU just didn't belong and both of those teams getting throttled proved it.

But trying to explain that to a guy with at least 3 IDs on here is just futile. He can't even count to 10 for crying out loud.
Only IU and SMU got "garbage touchdowns?" Damn you're grasping at any straw you can find.
  • How many garbage touchdowns did Oregon get when they were down 34-0 in the second half?
  • Was Georgia's only touchdown a second half garbage touchdown? They were down by 17 at the time. They never got within one score thereafter.
  • Tennessee garbage touchdown? They scored to turn a 42-10 deficit into a 42-17 loss.
  • As you said, SMU's only touchdown turned a 38-3 game into a 38-10 loss.
At least IU's last touchdown, with under a minute left, gave IU a chance at a two point conversion + onside kick recovery to get the ball to tie. They didn't get the conversion, but IU's 1-5% chance of tying the game in the last minute was (slightly) better than Oregon, Tennessee, SMU, or Georgia's 0% chance.

Yet IU is the team that was more outmatched than others? Nope.

PS: I know that Purdue is a science-based, not literature oriented school, but you spelled INDIANA wrong again. Almost like some Chinese factory worker would by mistake. Do you live in Indiana? If so, you're gong to have trouble with mail/package deliveries if you cannot even figure out how to spell the name of the state you live in.
 
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Well we did fire our coach. I guess that makes you puff out your chest when you beat a team with only 1 victory? IU looked like shit against ND. ND beat Georgia but that was with a quarterback that had never started a game for them. Crow again. IU still sucks. You know it and we know it. Hell the entire college world knows it. Piss and moan at them. We know that you brought in an entirely new team, played a wuss schedule, got your asses handed to you by ND and all you can do is cry for validation. Go watch your newly paid for Bball team and crow about their victory over Rutgers.
And IU played against Notre Dame with a quarterback playing on an unrepaired torn ACL. Teams deal with this kind of stuff the best they can. Hard to believe you and others are now making excuses like that for why ND was able to beat Georgia.

IU is your rival but had a great year. The entire college knows that IU football sucked? The whole college footbal world, both media and coaches, thought IU was deserving of their coach getting national coach of the year. The nation-wide selection committee thought the team was worthy of being in College Football Playoffs.

It would be like an IU fan disparaging Purdue's Final Four run with Edey. Yes, UConn was better. But Purdue had an incredible year and earned what and where they got. Full stop. It would take some ridiculous mental gymnastics to think otherwise, and I sure don't think otherwise. Same goes for this year's IU Football team.
 
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Interesting that his coach and pretty much every media report blamed dropped passes and bad special teams and o-line play as the main reasons Georgia lost. The Georgia QB was 20-32 with a touchdown, no interceptions, and a fumble on a blind-side hit.

From the CBS Sports game article:

"The Bulldogs don't have a quarterback problem. Gunner Stockton was an absolute gamer in the face of intense pressure — both because of the venue, circumstances and because of Notre Dame's furious pass rush. The offensive line, as it has this season, struggled to open holes for running backs and were leaky against another defensive front.

Meanwhile, the defense was pushed around up front and gave up too many chunk plays in big situations. That's not necessarily a killer, especially in a game in which the defense only gave up 16 points.

No, the biggest issue for Georgia is at receiver. The Bulldogs' receiving corps has dropped at least 36 passes during the 2024 season, including a massive drop on a would-be touchdown by Dillon Bell in the third quarter, according to ESPN's research. That is unacceptable for any championship-chasing team, and it's a big reason why the Bulldogs trailed at halftime in seven games this season — and lost three."
How about the game plan??? They went away from the run early and never went back to it. This is on Bobo to me and he fell right into the trap. They put a ton of pressure on a QB that hasn't been in this situation before.....shameful.

Time of possession and 2 fumbles cost this team and the D to be on the field a lot.
 
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How about the game plan??? They went away from the run early and never went back to it. This is on Bobo to me and he fell right into the trap. They put a ton of pressure on a QB that hasn't been in this situation before.....shameful.

Time of possession and 2 fumbles cost this team and the D to be on the field a lot.
Absolutely. A team and staff loss for Georgia for sure.

If it was a star-ranking/talent collection contest the SEC and Ohio State would win every game. Thank goodness for the other teams that isn't necessarily how it works out on the field.
 
Only IU and SMU got "garbage touchdowns?" Damn you're grasping at any straw you can find.
  • How many garbage touchdowns did Oregon get when they were down 34-0 in the second half?
  • Was Georgia's only touchdown a second half garbage touchdown? They were down by 17 at the time. They never got within one score thereafter.
  • Tennessee garbage touchdown? They scored to turn a 42-10 deficit into a 42-17 loss.
  • As you said, SMU's only touchdown turned a 38-3 game into a 38-10 loss.
At least IU's last touchdown, with under a minute left, gave IU a chance at a two point conversion + onside kick recovery to get the ball to tie. They didn't get the conversion, but IU's 1-5% chance of tying the game in the last minute was (slightly) better than Oregon, Tennessee, SMU, or Georgia's 0% chance.

Yet IU is the team that was more outmatched than others? Nope.

PS: I know that Purdue is a science-based, not literature oriented school, but you spelled INDIANA wrong again. Almost like some Chinese factory worker would by mistake. Do you live in Indiana? If so, you're gong to have trouble with mail/package deliveries if you cannot even figure out how to spell the name of the state you live in.
Grasping??

Dude, you are here and defending 2 losses to the ranked opponents you played.

Georgia down 20-10 in the 3rd with 9:36 to play.
IU down 27-3 in the 4th with 4:50 to play.

You really can't compare the 2......just stop.
 
Is this thread still going on?

IU gamed the first year in a new system by buying a horrendous non conference schedule and got lucky with a very favorable conference slate. Also they benefitted from a rare weak SEC. Kudos to them.

But the results of the playoffs haven't given them any decent wins all of a sudden. In fact, it just supports the fact that 8 is closer to the right number than 12. 1-4 earned their way in by winning conferences. 5-8 are the final four teams. 9-12 got put out of misery pretty easily in the first round.
 
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