That's certainly true of Temple. That program has fallen off noticably since John Chaney retired. But history matters in this discussion, and all three of those programs have histories similar to Purdue. Cincinnati twice won the national championship with Oscar Robertson. Notre Dame has played in three more NCAA tournaments than Purdue.
Is purdue a "Blue blood program"?
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1-3 were big-time cheaters at various times in their blue bloodied history, and 5 was suspected of same. 4 was clean as far as I know, although it was alledged the Zion family lived in a giant house in Durham for his one year. It was also alleged that the sociology program many of the dooks majored in was frivoulous, intended to keep players eligible.
Do you want Purdue to be part of this blue bloodied group?
Of course, but that will not make Purdue a 'blue blood", which given the examples is not something Purdue should aspire to.
We then are the same as a Villanova. IMO Nova isn't quite a blue blood. Blue bloods are 7 schools that can be considered as "Blue Bloods", UCLA, UK, Duke, UNC, IU (Yea sorry guys), UConn and Kansas. Kansas squeak in due to their absolute dominance of the Big 12, 4 championships and back to back HOF coaches... Purdue has a VERY long way to go to be considered a blue blood. Getting to your first final four since 80 would just be a start... Getting a championship would immediately boost Purdue's standing but would not make us a "blue blood"... Think immediate post 2000 MSU championship type space, that's where CMP and Purdue would be... Which is pretty well thought of...
Pretty well thought of if that is all you think of.
I think of the schools with crooked histories as crooks, and the clean schools, whatever their records, as worthy of respect.
I mean that's fine but this isn't about that... Clearly cheating is swept aside for these monikers.. I get your point but that's not the question...
True, you are correct. I was just rejecting the premise as I understood it that being a 'blue blood' is something to strive for. I shall henceforth cease and desist on this topic.
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I know you guys are biased by instate hysteria … but I’d argue to the other 49 states, Indiana and Louisville are attached at the hip and deserve the same all-time category. If one is a Blue Blood, the other is.
How about “Current Blue Blood” (Duke, UK, KU, UConn, Nova (maybe)), “Somewhat Current Blue Blood” (UCLA, Louisville, MSU (maybe)), “Blue Blood that hasn’t been relevant for a whole generation, maybe even 2 generations” (IU). Do those categories work?? 😂 😂
You are a confused Illinois fan. Michigan has been to 7....7 NC games, 1 NC, 8 F4 and 15 E8's. Say what you want, but in the modern day era they're IMO considered a "blue blood". If you consider IU to be one. A simple google search will tell you the success of each program in the last 30 years.
Our programs Purdue vs Illinois essentially mirror each other.
Their overall brand, NBA development of players, and achievements are top tier and I hate Michigan.
Lol. No. Not even close. Kentucky, Kansas, North Carolina, Indiana and UCLA are the staple Blue Bloods. The old men. Duke and UConn are the New Bloods of the Blue Bloods. It stops there but there is a group of programs like Michigan State, Villanova, Louisville and others that are above Purdue.
Cincinnati actually won those two championships in '61 and '62 after Robertson graduated, beating Ohio State both times. Robertson's Bearcats lost in the National Semi-finals in both '59 and '60 to California.
This is a kids argument. Is Purdue good at basketball? Hell yes. why do people seek arbitrary status?
I think you’re being WAY too liberal with that term then. I’d go with this all-time:
Clear Blue Bloods
Kentucky, North Carolina, Kansas, UCLA, Duke
Elite But Not Blue Blood
Indiana, Louisville, UConn, Villanova, Michigan State, etc.
Next Tier
Huge group of traditionally good-to-great programs that span a pretty wide range … all the way from Arizona and Syracuse to Purdue and Illinois to Michigan and Arkansas, etc.
Decent Historically But Major Flaw(s)
These are your Iowa or Alabama programs.
Everyone Else
That third tier has some programs like Michigan that have excelled in March but been unimpressive as far as all-time winning percentages, NCAAT appearances, weeks in the AP poll, conference championships, etc …. And it includes programs like Illinois and Purdue that look elite in some categories (e.g., Purdue having the most Big Ten titles or Illinois being in the top 10 all-time AP appearances) but mediocre in others (e.g., Illini having only 18 Big Ten titles compared to PU or PU only having 2 Final Fours).
To me, it’s honestly the TRUE Blue Bloods and then the rest of us … one three-pointer falls in the 2005 National Championship Game and all of a sudden Illinois has the same number of championships and MORE Final Fours than Arizona. A miracle putback by Virginia doesn’t fall, and Purdue has 3 Final Fours and maybe a title and they’re talked about in an entirely different right. Splitting hairs below the Blue Bloods, IMO!
Perhaps, depending on your definition but I would agree there are only a select few that fall into this category in the first place. Purdue has had a pretty solid program for over a century (minus about 20 years in the mid 40s to mid 60s) and to me that is pretty good. I don't care if we are ever considered a blue blood program as long as we can at least get that modern day National Championship someday.
For some perspective on how hard it is to be, stay or become a "Blue Blood"... to my count there are only SEVEN active NCAA MBB coaches with a National Championship. It sure would help the discussion to have Coach Painter there but "apparently" it's kind of hard to win a national title. 
Gus Malzahn won at Auburn when Cam was there…isn’t he the coach at UCF?For some perspective on how hard it is to be, stay or become a "Blue Blood"... to my count there are only SEVEN active NCAA MBB coaches with a National Championship. It sure would help the discussion to have Coach Painter there but "apparently" it's kind of hard to win a national title.
Ahhhh that’s right. I couldn’t think of his name and I knew it started with a “G”…those damn “G” names!
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