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Is Burke dishonest or delusional?

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Burke: "When you have 18- and 19-year olds competing against 21- and 22-year olds, you're liable to get some inconsistent performance, particularly when adversity strikes," Burke said

Stacy Clardie from same article: "For the bulk of 2015, eight of Purdue's 11 starters on defense were upperclassmen and eight or nine, depending on the quarterback, were on offense."
 
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Burke: "When you have 18- and 19-year olds competing against 21- and 22-year olds, you're liable to get some inconsistent performance, particularly when adversity strikes," Burke said

Stacy Clardie from same article: "For the bulk of 2015, eight of Purdue's 11 starters on defense were upperclassmen and eight or nine, depending on the quarterback, were on offense."

He's totally incompetent. Is clueless about his limitations.
 
Burke: "When you have 18- and 19-year olds competing against 21- and 22-year olds, you're liable to get some inconsistent performance, particularly when adversity strikes," Burke said

Stacy Clardie from same article: "For the bulk of 2015, eight of Purdue's 11 starters on defense were upperclassmen and eight or nine, depending on the quarterback, were on offense."
Stacy is obviously calling him out there, and some guy named stan was getting under his skin by having the nuts to question Burke's refusal to throw out a desired win total for next season. Burke then played the "did you play sports" card on him. What a tool.
 
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Burke: "When you have 18- and 19-year olds competing against 21- and 22-year olds, you're liable to get some inconsistent performance, particularly when adversity strikes," Burke said

Stacy Clardie from same article: "For the bulk of 2015, eight of Purdue's 11 starters on defense were upperclassmen and eight or nine, depending on the quarterback, were on offense."
After listening to Morgan Burkes press conference, I have never been so impressed with BS as he offered up to the press. Substantive questions such as what are you and Coach Hazel going to do to turn around 3 years of unmitigated failure was never asked. The press treat Mr Burke as if he has the answers to all the questions…. It was clear both from AD Burke and the Press, both realize Purdue Football is dead in the water until Burke and Hazel are forced out.
 
Stacy is obviously calling him out there, and some guy named stan was getting under his skin by having the nuts to question Burke's refusal to throw out a desired win total for next season. Burke then played the "did you play sports" card on him. What a tool.
So does swimming qualify as playing sports?? I don't think so.
MB is just an arrogant a$$ with no accountability. I do see fund raising is going well according to him. Until the guys with the big bucks put their foot on his neck, this train wreck will continue.
 
Burke obviously says whatever just to make himself look good in his own eyes.
This comes closest to my belief-- To me, Burke's comments reflect the arrogance of someone who doesn't have to worry about being held accountable....
If youth and inexperience is the problem, then why in the world would you need to fire BOTH the offensive and defensive coordinators???
Shame on the "journalists" assembled there for not holding his feet to the fire.
 
I think Burke is being dishonest when he says that Haze's buyout had no impact on his decision to keep him around (or something to that effect).

I also don't like the youth excuse. Seems like we've been hearing that every year since Danny Hope was around. Plenty of upperclassmen with 2 or 3 years of experience played a lot this year. Did anyone ask Burke why the staff was relying heavily on freshmen and sophomores three years into Haze's tenure? That would seem to raise obvious red flags about both recruiting and player development if the staff is still relying heavily on underclassmen three years in.

Finally, to Bigohh:
So does swimming qualify as playing sports?? I don't think so.
MB is just an arrogant a$$ with no accountability. I do see fund raising is going well according to him. Until the guys with the big bucks put their foot on his neck, this train wreck will continue.

I don't follow that at all. Whatever we feel about Burke and his management of the athletics program, competing in swimming is as much "playing sports" as competing in any other sport.
 
This comes closest to my belief-- To me, Burke's comments reflect the arrogance of someone who doesn't have to worry about being held accountable....
If youth and inexperience is the problem, then why in the world would you need to fire BOTH the offensive and defensive coordinators???
Shame on the "journalists" assembled there for not holding his feet to the fire.
Obviously MB is the product of failed decision makers that have and are above him.....
 
He's both. Folks, his presser was textbook propaganda. The primary purpose of propaganda is to deflect by simply repeating something over-and-over whether it's true or not. Do you believe that North Korea's ruling party really believes what they tell their citizens? It's one big lie dressed up as something else.

I noticed MB mentioned that this is the plan he presented to Daniels and the BOT. Does anyone believe that this isn't Daniels "plan", or at least what Daniels demands to hear? Mitch Daniels has gone out of his way to brand himself as the college president who will not participate in the "arms race". His ego and self-image seems to be 100% wrapped up in this concept.....to the point where it's bad business. Image that, a "leader" so committed to being right (smarter than everybody else) about an outcome, that they won't let facts get in their way of their opinion?

Taking a risk and eating DH's contract violates Daniels PRE-DETERMINED notion of how things are supposed to be......not how they are. To get a little political, it's like the argument that the Iraq invasion was going to pay for itself with oil revenues. Or that the invasion was a "success". Hell, we still have people claiming that BS. In spite of how painful it is, I think it's fairly clear that eating the buy-out is more likely going to minimize the losses over the long-term simply on attendance revenue alone..... But noooooo, that's not how the it is suppose to work in the "world according to the brilliant Mitch Daniels".

Perhaps MB also believes this bull-crap too......but let's say he doesn't. I've become convinced that Daniels wouldn't let MB fire DH even he wanted to because then not only does MB have to admit he made a bad hire....but Daniels would have to admit that his world view on sports doesn't jive with current reality. This move allows Daniels to still be self-righteous on one of his signature "beliefs" even though it's probably losing money for the University. But since we'll never know for certain, he can maintain the farce.
 
So starting young guys is the reason the football season was so bad??Well Purdue is starting four sophomores and a freshman in basketball.Thank God Painter gets better results..
 
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He's both. Folks, his presser was textbook propaganda. The primary purpose of propaganda is to deflect by simply repeating something over-and-over whether it's true or not. Do you believe that North Korea's ruling party really believes what they tell their citizens? It's one big lie dressed up as something else.

I noticed MB mentioned that this is the plan he presented to Daniels and the BOT. Does anyone believe that this isn't Daniels "plan", or at least what Daniels demands to hear? Mitch Daniels has gone out of his way to brand himself as the college president who will not participate in the "arms race". His ego and self-image seems to be 100% wrapped up in this concept.....to the point where it's bad business. Image that, a "leader" so committed to being right (smarter than everybody else) about an outcome, that they won't let facts get in their way of their opinion?

Taking a risk and eating DH's contract violates Daniels PRE-DETERMINED notion of how things are supposed to be......not how they are. To get a little political, it's like the argument that the Iraq invasion was going to pay for itself with oil revenues. Or that the invasion was a "success". Hell, we still have people claiming that BS. In spite of how painful it is, I think it's fairly clear that eating the buy-out is more likely going to minimize the losses over the long-term simply on attendance revenue alone..... But noooooo, that's not how the it is suppose to work in the "world according to the brilliant Mitch Daniels".

Perhaps MB also believes this bull-crap too......but let's say he doesn't. I've become convinced that Daniels wouldn't let MB fire DH even he wanted to because then not only does MB have to admit he made a bad hire....but Daniels would have to admit that his world view on sports doesn't jive with current reality. This move allows Daniels to still be self-righteous on one of his signature "beliefs" even though it's probably losing money for the University. But since we'll never know for certain, he can maintain the farce.

It is not only athletics that is being affected,
 
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Burke: "When you have 18- and 19-year olds competing against 21- and 22-year olds, you're liable to get some inconsistent performance, particularly when adversity strikes," Burke said

Stacy Clardie from same article: "For the bulk of 2015, eight of Purdue's 11 starters on defense were upperclassmen and eight or nine, depending on the quarterback, were on offense."


yes, lets just b*tch and moan all the time on an internet forum.
 
yes, lets just b*tch and moan all the time on an internet forum.
Actually I put my money where my mouth is. I was in Vegas for T-day to watch my son play soccer. So I put a $100 on the Hoosiers to beat the spread against Purdue, which they easily did. I came away with an extra $100 feeling fine about the third loss in a row to the Hoosiers.
 
Burke: "When you have 18- and 19-year olds competing against 21- and 22-year olds, you're liable to get some inconsistent performance, particularly when adversity strikes," Burke said

Stacy Clardie from same article: "For the bulk of 2015, eight of Purdue's 11 starters on defense were upperclassmen and eight or nine, depending on the quarterback, were on offense."

I mean it's one of those things where there's no athletic director in the country who spouts their honest opinion to the media. There's case after case of coaches receiving support from athletic directors, presidents, etc. and then being fired.

It's one of those things where unless he says "the only reason he's back is because of the buyout" - he's going to be coming across as not in reality at all.

What I'd love to see done, which I've been saying for years, is some sort of public strategy put out. What's the recruiting strategy? A couple years ago, IU did a major push to claim IU as the "state" school and they saw some decent success recruiting in-state. Our in-state recruiting has floundered for years.

There just never seems to be anything done publicly to try and improve. There's a lot of talk, but not a lot of action backing it up. And facility stuff only means so much! There are schools with great facilities that struggle with football. It's about the people (coaches), environment (fans), etc. too. There are things you can control more so than other things - branding yourself is one you can pretty much control. Purdue's done a horrible job with this over the years.

I certainly do not put that all on Burke - a coach should be recognizing this stuff, especially when it comes to developing a program from the ground up basically. But it definitely doesn't absolve Burke either.
 
I mean it's one of those things where there's no athletic director in the country who spouts their honest opinion to the media. There's case after case of coaches receiving support from athletic directors, presidents, etc. and then being fired.

It's one of those things where unless he says "the only reason he's back is because of the buyout" - he's going to be coming across as not in reality at all.

What I'd love to see done, which I've been saying for years, is some sort of public strategy put out. What's the recruiting strategy? A couple years ago, IU did a major push to claim IU as the "state" school and they saw some decent success recruiting in-state. Our in-state recruiting has floundered for years.

There just never seems to be anything done publicly to try and improve. There's a lot of talk, but not a lot of action backing it up. And facility stuff only means so much! There are schools with great facilities that struggle with football. It's about the people (coaches), environment (fans), etc. too. There are things you can control more so than other things - branding yourself is one you can pretty much control. Purdue's done a horrible job with this over the years.

I certainly do not put that all on Burke - a coach should be recognizing this stuff, especially when it comes to developing a program from the ground up basically. But it definitely doesn't absolve Burke either.
It's got to start with some realistic vision of what the focus of the team is going to be. Haz's view of Purdue being a 3 yards and a cloud of dust offense just doesn't square with our history or the types of kids we're going to attract. That's largely why we're 3 years into his leadership and we are nowhere. IU has had a focus of being an offensive juggernaut, probably based on our success under Tiller, and now they have a sizable recruiting edge for those athletes. We are in desperate need for a leadership change. Barring a miracle, 2016 will be another dismal year.
 
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time to let the thread die and focus on basketball… the one good thing Purdue has going on


It will die for now. Come late summer it will pick back up again. Our team next season won't be any good. Burke is continuing this mess to go on.
 
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I mean it's one of those things where there's no athletic director in the country who spouts their honest opinion to the media. There's case after case of coaches receiving support from athletic directors, presidents, etc. and then being fired.

It's one of those things where unless he says "the only reason he's back is because of the buyout" - he's going to be coming across as not in reality at all.

What I'd love to see done, which I've been saying for years, is some sort of public strategy put out. What's the recruiting strategy? A couple years ago, IU did a major push to claim IU as the "state" school and they saw some decent success recruiting in-state. Our in-state recruiting has floundered for years.

There just never seems to be anything done publicly to try and improve. There's a lot of talk, but not a lot of action backing it up. And facility stuff only means so much! There are schools with great facilities that struggle with football. It's about the people (coaches), environment (fans), etc. too. There are things you can control more so than other things - branding yourself is one you can pretty much control. Purdue's done a horrible job with this over the years.

I certainly do not put that all on Burke - a coach should be recognizing this stuff, especially when it comes to developing a program from the ground up basically. But it definitely doesn't absolve Burke either.
Burked screwed up the Tiller transition. Burke under-invested in the KEY sport in any Div. 1 athletic department. Burke invested irresponsibly in non-revenue sports. Burke hired two inadequate head coaches in a row. Burke is the top dog in the AD. No debate about it - this is ALL on Burke.
 
What I find embarrassing is that Morgan Burke has repeatedly referenced his desire to make Purdue a "Top 25" player in the Director's cup.

But if you take a look at the rankings of the B1G schools, you'll notice that we peaked about #35 during the end of Joe Tiller, and have fallen back to our historical average around 50-60. Pretty much the bottom of the B1G and bottom nationally.

Our athletic department fields close to the fewest # of teams (men's and women's combined) and have 3 national titles in our entire history (in ALL sports).

Clearly, our Athletic department is a joke. But thankfully, MB will lead us into glory, when he retires.

Check out the B1G wiki page, it is really disappointing with respect to our AD and performance.

Luckily I went there to be an engineer.....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Ten_Conference
 
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