Iowa State fan here...
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Well, we both have to get through sticky first round matchups!
Obviously, our chief strength is our front line and all that goes with it (rebounding, scoring in the post, Hammons is a great shot blocker, etc.)
I am curious to know what's the scuttle butt in Iowa about the draws that ISU, NIU, and Iowa got.
Obviously, our chief strength is our front line and all that goes with it (rebounding, scoring in the post, Hammons is a great shot blocker, etc.)
I am curious to know what's the scuttle butt in Iowa about the draws that ISU, NIU, and Iowa got.
I don't play on the team so I'll bite.
I have seen you play a few times this year but most of those games were home games. How has the team looked on the road or at neutral sites?
We haven't been great on the road but surprisingly good at neutral sites.
I have seen you play a few times this year but most of those games were home games. How has the team looked on the road or at neutral sites?
We haven't been great on the road but surprisingly good at neutral sites.
If both teams win their 1st games, and they absolutely should, then it looks like it may come down to Purdue's defense against ISU's offense.
Purdue is very big and physical and probably feeds the post more than any team in the country. They are a throwback 3 out 2 in motion offense who will probe for a good shot. They surround a strong post game with good shooters, but cold shooting nights are always a concern with this group. Their weakness on offense is that they don't have that one goto perimeter player who can break you down off the dribble, but instead they really on the offense to create opportunities.
On defense, they are tough and conservative, with solid man defense and a strong defensive presence in the middle in AJ Hammons. Teams who an draw AJ away from the basket with a center who can shoot have an easier time scoring against Purdue.
Rebounding is normally a great strength of the Boilers. Turnover differential is a weakness, particularly since Purdue doesn't force a lot of turnovers. Purdue is not very quick and often struggles against presses. Bench depth is a strength. Purdue's backup center, Isaac Haas, is a seven foot two inch Ivan Drago clone.
I think that Niang and ISU could really present some match-up problems for Purdue, but I think that Purdue's size and strength inside will present some huge challenges for any opponent they face, including ISU.
I think there is no reason to discuss anything until the sweet 16. These first two games are just games we are forced to play. Purdue is under seeded, and it's unfair to the teams that have to play us, but you can only hope to keep it close.
Yeah, please just be willing to come back here after the game, if you get the far. Thanks, and good luck. Not trying to be a dick, but I'm just stating the truth as a matter of fact. Sorry, if that offends you.. On a side note, since the Iowa loss we have learned to use a smaller lineup. One that features Swanigan at the 5. So, if you have a stretch four then know we out scored Indiana over a 8 minute period by 16 points featuring that smaller lineup... Good luck.
Let's treat everyone with respect here, guys. The ISU fan seems like he wants to have a discussion about the potential matchup. I too think it's a little premature for the, but we're fans and looking ahead is normal.
According to FiveThirtyEight, Purdue in under seeded by about 2 seeds and Iowa State is over seeded by about 2. To me, there is no doubt that Purdue is the more talented, more capable team. That being said, upsets happen. If it does happen here, the only way I can see that is if Purdue just goes really cold from the floor (like the end of the game @Michigan) because ISU's defense ranks 105th in the league according to KenPom. If the game turns into a shootout of sorts, I fully expect Purdue to win because I think at the end of the day they'll be able to get the stops that they need.
I expect Purdue to win by about 7-10 points against ISU.
According to FiveThirtyEight, Purdue in under seeded by about 2 seeds and Iowa State is over seeded by about 2. To me, there is no doubt that Purdue is the more talented, more capable team. That being said, upsets happen. If it does happen here, the only way I can see that is if Purdue just goes really cold from the floor (like the end of the game @Michigan) because ISU's defense ranks 105th in the league according to KenPom. If the game turns into a shootout of sorts, I fully expect Purdue to win because I think at the end of the day they'll be able to get the stops that they need.
I expect Purdue to win by about 7-10 points against ISU.
Honestly hasn't had a lot of success on the road. Beaten Colorado neutral and Cincinatti on the road. That said they have played well.
IMO Iowa State will lose against Purdue, as Monte Morris is not healthy. But I do think they'll try to outrun them and if McKay and Niang can do that it will be interesting. If it's a half court game give me Purdue by double digits.
This is the key to our team. If we can make any game a halfcourt game, I believe we are as good as almost anyone in the country. We are great offensively and defensively in the halfcourt and we are a great rebounding team. Our problems are mostly when we turn the ball over or take bad shots which often leads to easy transition baskets for our opponents. We have done better with shot selection as the season has progressed so really it's just the turnover issue that has crept up from time to time.
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Yes, let's remember that the enemy of TMHR is our friend.
Do u prefer your new or old coach? Hoiberg never seemed to know how yo coach in the tourney IMO.
Hoiberg was pretty good obviously but hated recruiting, and his style would lead his teams to lose some games they shouldn't. I don't think the ceiling is as high with Prohm but I don't think the floor is as low if that makes sense.
It's bad. Rumors are he will have surgery when the season is over and he isn't practicing. He will play games until the end of the year and that's it.
Home wins do not impress me much and do not translate to tourney success.
RPI 150 road/neutral court wins..
Purdue (6-6)
-Wisconsin (41)
-Pittsburgh (51)
-Florida (52)
-Michigan (58)
-Old Dominion (142)
-Illinois (143)
Iowa St. (5-9)
-Colorado (34)
-Cincinnati (45)
-Kansas St (84)
-Va Tech (90)
-Illinois (143)
Iowa St. has had more opportunities. Purdue has done more.
Another interesting note about Purdue is they haven't lost a game as the favorite in over 2 months... but also haven't won a game as the dog. That's an incredible 17 game stretch of predictable W/L outcomes (not ATS). I see Iowa St. is on a 8 game predictability streak of their own. Will be interesting to see which team is favored!
RPI 150 road/neutral court wins..
Purdue (6-6)
-Wisconsin (41)
-Pittsburgh (51)
-Florida (52)
-Michigan (58)
-Old Dominion (142)
-Illinois (143)
Iowa St. (5-9)
-Colorado (34)
-Cincinnati (45)
-Kansas St (84)
-Va Tech (90)
-Illinois (143)
Iowa St. has had more opportunities. Purdue has done more.
Another interesting note about Purdue is they haven't lost a game as the favorite in over 2 months... but also haven't won a game as the dog. That's an incredible 17 game stretch of predictable W/L outcomes (not ATS). I see Iowa St. is on a 8 game predictability streak of their own. Will be interesting to see which team is favored!
Are you guys really worried about Iona? Seems like our pod in the midwest is the most talked about upset alert with Iona beating you and Little Rock beating us.
I saw Purdue -9 vs our first round opponent on the ESPN app. Hope the streak holds. I would expect it to tighten up vs ISU they are -8 vs Iona
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Not even remotely. They have played two top 100 teams all year and got destroyed by both. Isu could obviously lose, but I couldn't be less worried about it.
ISU is a good team. Their record speaks for itself. We dare not look past them. Kansas, Oklahoma and Iowa fell victim to these guys. They are the team most likely to upset us.
We get past them, and we will probably face MSU. I know MSU, and I think we can take them in the rubber match. It is getting past ISU that really concerns me.
We get past them, and we will probably face MSU. I know MSU, and I think we can take them in the rubber match. It is getting past ISU that really concerns me.
I don't think ISU beating us would really be an upset. They are the #4 seed and we are the #5 seed. That said we will have to see what the folks in the desert have to say about who the favorite is.ISU is a good team. Their record speaks for itself. We dare not look past them. Kansas, Oklahoma and Iowa fell victim to these guys. They are the team most likely to upset us.
We get past them, and we will probably face MSU. I know MSU, and I think we can take them in the rubber match. It is getting past ISU that really concerns me.
We are pretty impressed with him so far. If he can do something with what he was left for our o line he will really blow my mind.
Totally agree. If I was Painter's staff I would have like two of them focus on NOTHING but games AFTER Denver. First two games are a total joke (and everyone on this board knows it but y'all are like, "well we can't overlook anyone", well you know what? YES YOU CAN, this is how the good teams advance, they know who they are going to beat and do extra Prep for the teams that could take us down but won't because we were prepared. End of story....this should be the last post in this thread, period.
Absolutely wrong. Good teams advance by taking every opponent seriously, sticking to scouting reports, and playing good defense. Looking past any team is never a recipe for success, ask any collegiate coach.
I didn't say overlook. i say get some staff to prepare way in advance, some teams do it, some dont, winners do. just ask kansas when larry brown was there, rick pitino when at KY, Izzo does it masterfully, just unbelievably masterfully.
When you start looking over to the next matchup in any way whatsoever, then you are "overlooking".
I have always been a guy for the one game approach. Our Boilers shouldn't even know who is in the bracket. They shouldn't even have brackets on the team. The only thing the players should know, or care about, is Little-Rock. Completely oblivious to the next opponent.
I have always been a guy for the one game approach. Our Boilers shouldn't even know who is in the bracket. They shouldn't even have brackets on the team. The only thing the players should know, or care about, is Little-Rock. Completely oblivious to the next opponent.
If we end up playing ISU, I think it will be interesting. I hope we run with them a little. That will help open up our offense and get everyone involved. If this is the case, we win by double digits. Everybody thinks we are a plodding team, but we are best when we can score some in transition. If its a half court game, I believe its a close game that we still pull out.
Your whole posting history in this thread is idiotic. You need to stop this nonsense about opponents. Your run as a troll is getting shorter.
I also see you posted in almost every thread all at the same time. Do you flit from board to board impersonating a home fan in each, post one liners and other garbage on each board?
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No, I'm a PU fan like yourself. I don't jump from board to board. What boards do you post on?Your whole posting history in this thread is idiotic. You need to stop this nonsense about opponents. Your run as a troll is getting shorter.
I also see you posted in almost every thread all at the same time. Do you flit from board to board impersonating a home fan in each, post one liners and other garbage on each board?
Looking at ISU box scores.. Your starters play TONS of minutes. Your team conditioning must be phenomenal. Surprising to me, the wins against KU and OU were on only 1 day rest. I was expecting Purdue's depth to be an advantage.. now I'm not sure (outside of foul trouble). Still better to play you Saturday than Thursday I think.
I'm just concerned about the 2nd round. We just haven't done well this year against teams that start with the letter "I".
(I use strategy like that as well as who's mascot can kill the other mascot to fill out my brackets)
(I use strategy like that as well as who's mascot can kill the other mascot to fill out my brackets)
