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Interesting comment from Boeheim..

Your really going to compare a death to a torn ACL? I can't believe you went there.

Um....he didn't compare the seriousness of the events but in terms of basketball discussion the end result is that both teams had to play in the NCAA tournament without one of its best players.
 
The PG position is the most important on the court. He's the QB and all the offense flows through him. But, he has to be able to more than feed the post and play D for 94 feet.
That's been Painter's program. His PGs are usually 1 dimensional and usually what they're missing is the offense.
I have disagreed with you on many things over the past few weeks. But I have to agree completely with this statement. What we have lacked is dynamic guard play. I'm hoping that CE will change that but time will tell.

There were so many times this year that we needed a guard that could get us a basket by driving or shooting off the dribble. Anything to score a basket and stem the tide or put a game away.
 
If we aren't going to have a guy like Kramer on the roster then I don't want a defensive minded PG.
 
Defense? Offense? You got to have them both to win. This whole discussion about which is best is sort of like discussing which side of the coin you are going to spend. Here's the deal, too many high school kids think offensively only. Painter does look for those who can do both.

IIRC the baby boilers had one of the highest scoring offenses in the BIG and in the nation. Our team this year was in the top half of the BIG on offense, and ranked high nationally. The idea that Painter can't coach offensive basketball is probably without factual basis. The whole perspective is because he often talks defense, which is the more difficult of skills to teach t players.

But hey, it's just my take.

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Defense? Offense? You got to have them both to win. This whole discussion about which is best is sort of like discussing which side of the coin you are going to spend. Here's the deal, too many high school kids think offensively only. Painter does look for those who can do both.

IIRC the baby boilers had one of the highest scoring offenses in the BIG and in the nation. Our team this year was in the top half of the BIG on offense, and ranked high nationally. The idea that Painter can't coach offensive basketball is probably without factual basis. The whole perspective is because he often talks defense, which is the more difficult of skills to teach t players.

But hey, it's just my take.

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The true edition of the "Baby Boilers" (2007-2008) averaged 70 PPG, which was pretty average overall. They were definitely a good team, but their scoring output wasn't extraordinary: http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/team/stats/_/id/2509/year/2008/purdue-boilermakers
This past season's team was the highest scoring Purdue team since the '97-'98 season, so that was a positive.

However, that still doesn't equate to the same head coach producing better postseason results and practicing different schemes to use when adjustments can be made in big games. It's definitely more points but there wasn't anything to show for it in the postseason.
 
Um....he didn't compare the seriousness of the events but in terms of basketball discussion the end result is that both teams had to play in the NCAA tournament without one of its best players.
Come on... They almost didn't even participate in the tournament because of the death. If you guys don't see the difference I feel really sorry for you. Not to mention that Purdue still played 3 or 4 games with Hummel to get adjusted. LMU played 0 had to deal with the death of not only a teammate, but friend. It took Kendall 3 weeks to even step on the floor after a friend died. Can you imagine what the entire team had to go through. Some of the people on this board really need to think before they post. Oh and by the way, the went to the E8 with that team, that's not even in a power conference. CMP hasn't even sniffed an E8.
 
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Come on... They almost didn't even participate in the tournament because of the death. If you guys don't see the difference I feel really sorry for you. Not to mention that Purdue still played 3 or 4 games with Hummel to get adjusted. LMU played 0 had to deal with the death of not only a teammate, but friend. It took Kendall 3 weeks to even step on the floor after a friend died. Can you imagine what the entire team had to go through. Some of the people on this board really need to think before they post. Oh and by the way, the went to the E8 with that team, that's not even in a power conference. CMP hasn't even sniffed an E8.

Still, nobody is making light of the death. You can drop the mock outrage anytime.
 
Your really going to compare a death to a torn ACL? I can't believe you went there.
You tried to prove that defense doesn't win championships by using a high-powered offensive team that did not win a championship. Fail. lol. So you are trying to change the topic by blaming a player's death for you failing to make a mindless point. Sadly, it's not beneath you.
 
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Stats can tell one part of the story, but if you watched our losses, it was pretty clear why we didn't win, regularly going long stretches without getting a bucket and not having anyone that could get us on a run while we watched double digit leads dwindle way in the 2nd half.

It's easy to point out losses - but do you spend time focusing on reasons you lose 7 times or reasons why you win 26?

And quite frankly, there's a variety of reasons. If you look at our losses - there also tends to be a low number involving AJ's offensive output. Did we lose a game because of a PG or cause AJ was MIA for 75% of the game?

It's easy to pick out some storyline and go with it - but the fact is, there's not just 1 reason we lost these games.

And again, people acting like we're the only team to have scoring droughts, have turnovers when pressed, etc. - it happens all over.
 
It's easy to point out losses - but do you spend time focusing on reasons you lose 7 times or reasons why you win 26?

And quite frankly, there's a variety of reasons. If you look at our losses - there also tends to be a low number involving AJ's offensive output. Did we lose a game because of a PG or cause AJ was MIA for 75% of the game?

It's easy to pick out some storyline and go with it - but the fact is, there's not just 1 reason we lost these games.

And again, people acting like we're the only team to have scoring droughts, have turnovers when pressed, etc. - it happens all over.

I would say AJ having low offensive numbers this year was not due to him being MIA or lack of effort... maybe in the past, but not this year. This year I would blame lack of shooting, defenders bunching up on him, and a lack of another offensive threat in general being able to take some of the pressure off of him. Just my opinion.
 
The PG position is the most important on the court. He's the QB and all the offense flows through him. But, he has to be able to more than feed the post and play D for 94 feet.
That's been Painter's program. His PGs are usually 1 dimensional and usually what they're missing is the offense.

Hard to disagree with any of this.
 
As for the rule changes, if you haven't noticed, Purdue's defense is very different than it once was. There's a lot fewer risks being taken.

The notion that we have not adjusted is pretty silly.
Ibo, don't you know there are ONLY two defensive adjustments that can be made in basketball...full court press and 2-3 zone. (The winky face is for the more obtuse of the board)
 
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I would say AJ having low offensive numbers this year was not due to him being MIA or lack of effort... maybe in the past, but not this year. This year I would blame lack of shooting, defenders bunching up on him, and a lack of another offensive threat in general being able to take some of the pressure off of him. Just my opinion.
The shooting around AJ was actually quite good.

If you look at AJ's numbers on a per minute basis, he was quite dominant. Even his bad games were pretty good. I would say that the games at Michigan and against Butler were disappointing, but otherwise he was really good all season. Purdue's issues this season were mostly related to guard limitations in pressure situations. AJ was rarely the problem, IMO.
 
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