Guys the sun will come up tomorrow. You beat us three years ago and today we got you. Both teams made mistakes today and we benefitted from the last one. Good luck the rest of the way.
I'm usually optimistic...
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I wouldn't fire Hazell yet. I'd say, "do the following three things:
a) Fire Shoop and bring someone in who doesn't have to re-innvent the wheel, but can just run a good sound offense
b) Ditch the cover two and stop giving up the middle of the field... make them beat you up the sideline one on one
c) Get the team to play as smart as we thought your teams would play
or you're f-ing fired."
I'd gladly give odds against it. "Coach" and his friend Burke will not do a thing, I'd even bet that if Haz is back next year because BURKE wont pony up the cash to fire Haz. We will have Shoop back with him. Play calling, who might be responsible for that? Hmnn Head Coach maybe?
LOL can't you see if you're wanting Shoop gone, you're just a disgruntled Bears fan. I mean, he's been good before. There was the time he was at that one place I think or something..
Well we have lost all gains from the Tiller years. We thought we could do better so we ran him off and hired Danny who while losing games we should have won the season we were still winning some games. Not good enough we can be better. So we fired Danny and brought in an OSU coordinator.
Well guess what so was Colletto. He too thought we could use our talent play a pro set offense. It failed then, it is failing now and will always fail.
We have become IU. A joke in the Big Ten. Northwestern of the 80's and early 90's.
A national joke. Everyone's homecoming opponent and a small schools first win ever against the B10.
Congrats Purdue.
Well guess what so was Colletto. He too thought we could use our talent play a pro set offense. It failed then, it is failing now and will always fail.
We have become IU. A joke in the Big Ten. Northwestern of the 80's and early 90's.
A national joke. Everyone's homecoming opponent and a small schools first win ever against the B10.
Congrats Purdue.
Vegas thinks differently, but carry on with your completely unfounded superiority complex. I mean we did win the game. Guess I shouldn't expect too much football knowledge from Purdon't fans. Anywho, have fun with your season. Hope this loss still stings as bad in the morning.
It doesn't sting. Well, in and of itself. The sting comes from the feeling of this..
"Imagine what is going to happen to us when we aren't knocking the other teams line of scrimmage players into next week."
In fact, I'll say this. If Purdue had played a game like the one you played against us, against say.. Minnesota, and won, while some people were sitting here like "imagine what we could be this year" I'd be sitting here like "imagine what's going to happen to us when we don't play a team that is confronted with it being TIME to hit a haymaker, and instead backs up while throwing weak defensive jabs"
No kidding. My God, have you seen the schedule they played last year? Talk about a joke. Didn't play a real football team all year. They did sneak past La Tech 26-23 for the prestigious CUSA title though.
I think you think you're dealing with people who thought that this was a world beater team. If this was the 2003 Boilers, then I'd be salty about this loss.
But the point is, with our relative resources, a good Purdue team should crown a good Marshall team. You played a team, on our coaching/state of the program spectrum, that's a D+/C- at best.
This Marshall team, or any you've ever had, even with Moss, would have gotten knocked into next week by the 2003 or 2000 Boilers. But, because we've now put ourselves back into being the Purdue of the 90s, yes... you win.
But the point is, with our relative resources, a good Purdue team should crown a good Marshall team. You played a team, on our coaching/state of the program spectrum, that's a D+/C- at best.
This Marshall team, or any you've ever had, even with Moss, would have gotten knocked into next week by the 2003 or 2000 Boilers. But, because we've now put ourselves back into being the Purdue of the 90s, yes... you win.
Hey, you know who wouldn't lose to this year's Purdon't team? The 2015 Thundering Herd. Lol on the "you're best team ever wouldn't beat our best team ever" smack. Guess when you can't do it on the field you go with unprovable bullsh*t. Nice try though, kid.
We also finished #22 in the nation after dismantling an NIU team that drubbed you by 30 pts a year before.
Look, i know you are upset, but we turned the ball over several times in key situations like the big run by Johnson, and kept you in the game. We were breaking in a new QB, new center, and almost an entire new defensive front 7.
You lost to probably what will end up as a top 25 team again. You will beat BG, and can beat VT as well, and may end up 3-1 come conference play, and you have illinois, and Indiana to beat there quite easily. I can easily see Purdue going 6-6 and going bowling.
The pessimistic attitude is not flattering at all.
Good luck the rest of the way.
Well we are not a good team. Losses to teams like Marshall should get B10 coaches fired. There is a reason its Marshalls 1st win. I expect it will be the last.
You are being ridiculous. Its our first win because its the first big ten team to come to huntington. Its hard to win on the road.
We lost to OSU by 3 on a 55 yard gw field goal at the shoe, would have easily beaten indiana or illinois in basicaly any season you choose.
We also have a good coach again, that has gotten us back to the top 25 again. These last few seasons we have gotten back to what we were from 98-2002.
We beat Maryland 2 years ago as well, that is now a big ten team but was ACC then. Kansas State when they were #5 and won the big 12, also fell to the Herd, Clemson at home in 1999, south carolina, and others. We are not some scrub, so stop acting like it.
You lose to a good football team and want to find someone to blame. Lets see how you do OOC and go from there.
We know who to blame. The dude in long sleeves and vest. Was at Florida Sat nite. Thats a good football team. Marshall is a slight tick better than Purdue who is garbage.
LOL we are 4-21 under our current HC.
We should beat ISU (no guarantees, they almost beat us at home a couple years ago) and Va Tech will crush us. That game could be a shutout. Bowling Green is a tossup. There could be more visiting fans than Boilers for our home B1G games, and I would expect 0 wins based on our coaching staff and QB play. You guys won't be feeling so high about this win as the season goes on.
This. Herd fans have been great on here. You've got a very good program and will have a good year. Your quarterback got better today. Ours did not. Good luck the rest of the season.
Look, there's always positives to take away from a loss - particularly in a first game of the season.
But come on, our defense played pretty well vs. a dynamic offense? That QB was playing his first game at Marshall and was completely unproven. They racked up 400 yards of offense. They were 4-5 in red zone scoring. Their running back averaged almost 9 yards a carry. Marshall looked like a team playing its first game of the season with some new players at skill positions. And one of their fumbles was lucky for Purdue as it came deep in Purdue's territory in a careless play by their RB.
I didn't think the playcalling was great, but I think Appleby also telegraphed a lot (and like you said, Appleby was put in a situation he probably shouldn't have been).
I respected Marshall before today,and I still do.I like Doc Holliday and if AA hadn't thrown a pick on the first play,who knows what would have happened.?If Purdue had not messed up that chance to score a td instead of missing thatfg attempt,then converted that pass to number 85 in the end zone instead of a fg,AA wouldn't have thrown the last two picks.I think Purdue will win some games,but boy,it would have been great to get this one.Good luck to Marshall the rest of the way.
Purdue attendance will probably be bad again,but Minnesota wont have many fans there,and Illinois and IU ?/
At the end of the day we can all pass out comforted by the fact our degree says "Purdue" and not "Marshall".
Well,Purdues defense wasn't bad until Marshalls clinching drive.Through the first 53 minutes or so,Purdue only gave up about 310 yards and only 10 points from late in the first quarter until the last three minutes.As far as their great back goes,he gained about 40 yards on the play where he fumbled.Other than that Purdue handled him pretty well.
Hey, you know who wouldn't lose to this year's Purdon't team? The 2015 Thundering Herd. Lol on the "you're best team ever wouldn't beat our best team ever" smack. Guess when you can't do it on the field you go with unprovable bullsh*t. Nice try though, kid.
I wasn't going to reply to this post but some of you guys are making some pretty asinine comments. First of all, Marshall was favored to win by 8 points. So stop acting like you got beat by old dominion.
Second, your degree may say "Purdue" but clearly you don't understand the basic principles of logic. You cannot say "with our resources we should beat Marshall every time!" And in the same breath say "if marshall played like that in the B1G they would get destroyed!" That is the definition of faulty logic. If Marshall "played like that in the B1G", then Marshall would have the same 'resources' you claim to be so valuable in building a winning program (although you've had resources for quite a while and your program is in shambles) ergo you cannot definitively say that Marshall would ever play like that in the B1G because of those gained resources.
As for it being the first win against a Big Ten opponent, we've played like 5 games against Big Ten teams, all on the road. And just to bring this back to where we started, Marshall was favored by 8 and won by 10, so we must have done something right?
Second, your degree may say "Purdue" but clearly you don't understand the basic principles of logic. You cannot say "with our resources we should beat Marshall every time!" And in the same breath say "if marshall played like that in the B1G they would get destroyed!" That is the definition of faulty logic. If Marshall "played like that in the B1G", then Marshall would have the same 'resources' you claim to be so valuable in building a winning program (although you've had resources for quite a while and your program is in shambles) ergo you cannot definitively say that Marshall would ever play like that in the B1G because of those gained resources.
As for it being the first win against a Big Ten opponent, we've played like 5 games against Big Ten teams, all on the road. And just to bring this back to where we started, Marshall was favored by 8 and won by 10, so we must have done something right?
So? It's not a wrong thought. You barely squeaked by one of the worst teams we have had in a long time while breaking in a new QB. You're not nearly as good as you think you are nor were you last year, it's just a fact. If you were in the B1G I dare say you would struggle to be .500.
Be glad the coaching staff gifted this game to you, we are not going to win many games and squeaking by us is not a big win for you at all.
Thinking it over I think you are right about the defense. It has issues to work out, but correctable and I also wonder how the first game jitters/heat played in to it as well.
Our DC is about the only one I am cautiously optimistic about right now.
"So? It's not a wrong thought. You barely squeaked by one of the worst teams we have had in a long time while breaking in a new QB. You're not nearly as good as you think you are nor were you last year, it's just a fact. If you were in the B1G I dare say you would struggle to be .500.".
boilers gave one away for sure. i do think marshall would be competitive in the B1G. ui, iu, nw, iowa,psu, mich, pu, neb, rut would all be very winnable. they would not be blown out by the others. to bad the season will be lost before the change at qb is made.
what is troubling is that no one on the team could be deemed better than the starter by the coaching staff. either no one is better or they can't see that they are
boilers gave one away for sure. i do think marshall would be competitive in the B1G. ui, iu, nw, iowa,psu, mich, pu, neb, rut would all be very winnable. they would not be blown out by the others. to bad the season will be lost before the change at qb is made.
what is troubling is that no one on the team could be deemed better than the starter by the coaching staff. either no one is better or they can't see that they are
If you can't see why that is faulty logic then I cannot help you.
Yeah, if this Marshall team played in the B1G they would struggle to be .500. They also don't have the resources of a B1G team. That's like watching the little league world series and saying "well if this team played the Yankees they would get steam rolled!" Of course Marshall would get rolled in the B1G because we are a C-USA team with C-USA funding and resources. If we were a B1G team with B1G resources I would imagine we could put a much better team on the field. And since we are consitently one of the best G5 recruiting teams I would imagine we would do fine.
And you're right, this isn't a big win for Marshall in the scheme of things. But it is big because of the perception that P5 is always better than G5. At least this year we will have a P5 victory on our record and that is better than not having a P5 victory.
I don't think we're as good as last year, I don't think there is a Marshall fan out there that believes we are as good as last year. But there isn't as significant of a drop off as some thought, and Birdsong has a lot of potential.
By the way, when did we change the definition of "squeaking by" to mean winning by 2 scores?
To be fair, this "awesome" defense only gave up 27. Danny Etling couldn't get PT here? Good luck, LSU.
Judging by the posts in this thread, that Purdue degree didn't teach any of you how to use the "quote" function on this board.
Let me guess you went to IU for one of the 1 1/2 year BA degrees before moving on to Marshall!!!
