Hope Rings Eternal....Attack on Rule of Law

[Boiler Buck]

There is still great reason for Hope for Dems in PA.

Sure officials caught on to rookies cheating here, But surely this is just the tip of the spear as this is just a few thousand. BUT just think about the experienced cheaters and the hundreds of thousands that weren't caught yet. Never fear!! K2 might come out with a solid blue wall yet.

Hang in there Dems --- there still great reason for Hope. Your cheating minions will get 'er done.

Voter registration application fraud case widens

A company has been named in connection with the case.

www.wgal.com

 

[gleap1969]

https://www.brookings.edu/articles/how-widespread-is-election-fraud-in-the-united-states-not-very/

 

[Boiler Buck]

https://www.brookings.edu/articles/how-widespread-is-election-fraud-in-the-united-states-not-very/

Don't take their hope away.....

Obviously Dems got caught here, so cheating is proven to happen via the example. They just got caught this time for once.....the other times we don't hear about....and Harris says....thanks that we never will.

K2 wins -- we all will know why.

 

[JBoiler23]

https://www.brookings.edu/articles/how-widespread-is-election-fraud-in-the-united-states-not-very/

Didn't you know? The only reason there's no evidence of voter fraud is because the dems are SOOOO good at it that they never get caught. The lack of evidence IS the evidence. CAN'T YOU SEE!?!?!?!?!?

 

[Boiler Buck]

By hook or crook K2 will get it done.
Just wait and see Dems....

Here she violates federal FCC law by appearing on SNL with no offer to the Trump campaign....

You see, the law doesn't matter. The ONLY thing that matters is that nasty, worthless, terrible DJT isn't President. So if we have to cheat to get that done.....so be it!!

 

[SKYDOG]

Didn't you know? The only reason there's no evidence of voter fraud is because the dems are SOOOO good at it that they never get caught. The lack of evidence IS the evidence. CAN'T YOU SEE!?!?!?!?!?

Now that is something we can agree on,

 

[TheGunner]

There is still great reason for Hope for Dems in PA.

Sure officials caught on to rookies cheating here, But surely this is just the tip of the spear as this is just a few thousand. BUT just think about the experienced cheaters and the hundreds of thousands that weren't caught yet. Never fear!! K2 might come out with a solid blue wall yet.

Hang in there Dems --- there still great reason for Hope. Your cheating minions will get 'er done.

Voter registration application fraud case widens

A company has been named in connection with the case.

www.wgal.com

But it’s a felony. (Only when prosecuted)

 

[BB62]

There is still great reason for Hope for Dems in PA.

Sure officials caught on to rookies cheating here, But surely this is just the tip of the spear as this is just a few thousand. BUT just think about the experienced cheaters and the hundreds of thousands that weren't caught yet. Never fear!! K2 might come out with a solid blue wall yet.

Hang in there Dems --- there still great reason for Hope. Your cheating minions will get 'er done.

Voter registration application fraud case widens

A company has been named in connection with the case.

www.wgal.com

Hundreds of thousands lol.

The king of "the media tells you what to think" is simply repeating what he's told by the sore loser. Trump started his "if we lose they cheated" a long time ago. We will be bombarded with it over the next couple days.

What happened to all the changes the Republican state legislatures made? Not enough? Doesn't matter?

What time on Tuesday will trump declare victory and call for the polls to close?

 

[Boiler Buck]

Hundreds of thousands lol.

The king of "the media tells you what to think" is simply repeating what he's told by the sore loser. Trump started his "if we lose they cheated" a long time ago. We will be bombarded with it over the next couple days.

What happened to all the changes the Republican state legislatures made? Not enough? Doesn't matter?

What time on Tuesday will trump declare victory and call for the polls to close?

K2's minions of cheaters have got this for her.....it's in the bag. After all, it's the right thing to do, is it not??

So come out of the corner, and for heavens sake, quit that rocking and sucking your thumb. It will be ok.....and you won't need those psych evaluation appointments after all.
Hang in there.

 

[gleap1969]

K2's minions of cheaters have got this for her.....it's in the bag. After all, it's the right thing to do, is it not??

So come out of the corner, and for heavens sake, quit that rocking and sucking your thumb. It will be ok.....and you won't need those psych evaluation appointments after all.
Hang in there.

You do realize that most of the voter fraud in the 2020 election was committed by MAGATs.

 

[gleap1969]

https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-were-only-trump-supporters-arrested-2020-election-fraud-1730592

 

[Boiler Buck]

You do realize that most of the voter fraud in the 2020 election was committed by MAGATs.

https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-were-only-trump-supporters-arrested-2020-election-fraud-1730592

Never fear the Dems are ready to go they will get their gal over the line no matter what they have to do. It's the right thing after all isn't it?

So stop fretting. Put down the booze and pills. Stop mumbling to yourself in the corner, come back to reality and feel the JOY of K2 and her coming victory as queen of the land.

 

[TheGunner]

You do realize that most of the voter fraud in the 2020 election was committed by MAGATs.

Do you do any homework or just post BS?

Democrat Gloria Torres was appointed in December to her new post, just six months after pleading guilty to charges of conspiracy and ballot abuse dating back to the controversial 2020 election.

Convicted Dem election fraudster appointed Vice MAYOR of Arizona city

A corrupt local politician has become the vice mayor of an Arizona city after being convicted of election fraud.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Two Defendants Indicted in Alleged Yuma County Ballot Harvesting Scheme

YUMA – Attorney General Mark Brnovich announced that Gloria Lopez Torres of San Luis, and Nadia Guadalupe Lizarraga-Mayorquin of San Luis, also known as Nadia Buchanan, have been charged by the State Grand Jury with Conspiracy and Ballot Abuse arising from an alleged “ballot harvesting” scheme...

www.azag.gov

 

[Riveting]

Didn't you know? The only reason there's no evidence of voter fraud is because the dems are SOOOO good at it that they never get caught. The lack of evidence IS the evidence. CAN'T YOU SEE!?!?!?!?!?

No, it is because in states like Pa, dems are the ones 'looking' for the evidence.

Just like the J6 cmt - dems were the ones 'looking' for the evidence.

 

[JBoiler23]

Do you do any homework or just post BS?

Democrat Gloria Torres was appointed in December to her new post, just six months after pleading guilty to charges of conspiracy and ballot abuse dating back to the controversial 2020 election.

Convicted Dem election fraudster appointed Vice MAYOR of Arizona city

A corrupt local politician has become the vice mayor of an Arizona city after being convicted of election fraud.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Two Defendants Indicted in Alleged Yuma County Ballot Harvesting Scheme

YUMA – Attorney General Mark Brnovich announced that Gloria Lopez Torres of San Luis, and Nadia Guadalupe Lizarraga-Mayorquin of San Luis, also known as Nadia Buchanan, have been charged by the State Grand Jury with Conspiracy and Ballot Abuse arising from an alleged “ballot harvesting” scheme...

www.azag.gov

This does not disprove gleap's statement, as it doesn't represent a majority of voter fraud cases (which was the claim) nor did the event take place during the 2020 general election (also included in the claim). And, not for nothing, there's no evidence in your links that any fraudulent votes were cast during this incident, just that (presumably legal) votes were submitted via a method that you're not allowed to in AZ.

 

[TheGunner]

This does not disprove gleap's statement, as it doesn't represent a majority of voter fraud cases (which was the claim) nor did the event take place during the 2020 general election (also included in the claim). And, not for nothing, there's no evidence in your links that any fraudulent votes were cast during this incident, just that (presumably legal) votes were submitted via a method that you're not allowed to in AZ.

You’re correct, I missed the term “most”.

But voter fraud is, by definition…voter fraud.

 

[JBoiler23]

You’re correct, I missed the term “most”.

You also missed the election in question.

But voter fraud is, by definition…voter fraud.

I mean, pretty tautological, but sure.

Would you agree that the kind of voter fraud that has been claimed by Trump et al--and the kind that could, if it existed in any significant numbers, affect election results--has been the submission of votes that were, themselves illegal (dead people, non-citizens, double votes, etc.)? If so, would you also agree that the instance you've referenced here does not fit that description, as the votes in question were, seemingly, legal?

 

[Boiler Buck]

You also missed the election in question.

I mean, pretty tautological, but sure.

Would you agree that the kind of voter fraud that has been claimed by Trump et al--and the kind that could, if it existed in any significant numbers, affect election results--has been the submission of votes that were, themselves illegal (dead people, non-citizens, double votes, etc.)? If so, would you also agree that the instance you've referenced here does not fit that description, as the votes in question were, seemingly, legal?

Shoot the Biden/K2 lied to America about the number of jobs their watch supposedly created. Only off by over 800,000++ jobs.

But it was the right thing to do. We can't let America know how bad our economy is, or they would go nuclear against us and vote Trump.

So you see, it's what good for America. K2 knows what's best. And if they have to lie to us....it's just for our own good. K2....she knows what's best. Her registration and vote harvester lackeys do too.....they will take care of it. Wait and see. It's what's best.....just ask K2.

 

[JBoiler23]

Shoot the Biden/K2 lied to America about the number of jobs their watch supposedly created. Only off by over 800,000++ jobs.

You're the one lying here, or otherwise not understanding how things work. If they WERE lying, they'd be really bad at it since they, themselves, released the revised numbers. As is standard procedure. The fictional world you inhabit is really quite fascinating.

 

[Boiler Buck]

You're the one lying here, or otherwise not understanding how things work. If they WERE lying, they'd be really bad at it since they, themselves, released the revised numbers. As is standard procedure. The fictional world you inhabit is really quite fascinating.

You are correct the actual number is down 1.2 million. But it's ok. It's for the good of the people. After all, Biden is just doing his best herding sheep. From the article....

"As this benchmark is on top of the existing downward revisions to the monthly jobs reports. Comparing the initial estimates to the latest data shows that nonfarm payrolls were grossly overestimated by almost 1.2 million for a 12-month. That’s more than a third of the alleged job growth during that time."

https://www.heritage.org/biden-harr...llowing-largest-jobs-revision-15-years-0[/URL

 

[TheGunner]

You also missed the election in question.

I mean, pretty tautological, but sure.

Would you agree that the kind of voter fraud that has been claimed by Trump et al--and the kind that could, if it existed in any significant numbers, affect election results--has been the submission of votes that were, themselves illegal (dead people, non-citizens, double votes, etc.)? If so, would you also agree that the instance you've referenced here does not fit that description, as the votes in question were, seemingly, legal?

So let me clarify my position, I don’t believe Trump won the 2020 election. But I do get concerned when one party doesn’t want to require a voter ID. That’s illogical. So telling me there was t enough voter fraud to change the 2020 election isn’t part of my debate. My debate is stop proposing policies (like not requiring IDs) that cause the Republicans to question elections.

It’s pretty simple. And when there is voter fraud….point it out and prosecute it…and in the linked source I provide…why would a party want a person involved in an election that had previously admitted to voter fraud.

 

[JBoiler23]

You are correct the actual number is down 1.2 million. But it's ok. It's for the good of the people. After all, Biden is just doing his best herding sheep. From the article....

"As this benchmark is on top of the existing downward revisions to the monthly jobs reports. Comparing the initial estimates to the latest data shows that nonfarm payrolls were grossly overestimated by almost 1.2 million for a 12-month. That’s more than a third of the alleged job growth during that time."

https://www.heritage.org/biden-harr...llowing-largest-jobs-revision-15-years-0[/URL

Do you think this demonstrates? I have not disputed that the numbers were revised.

 

[JBoiler23]

So let me clarify my position, I don’t believe Trump won the 2020 election. But I did get concerned when one party doesn’t want to require a voter ID. That’s illogical. So telling me there was t enough voter fraud to change the 2020 election isn’t part of my debate. My debate is stop proposing policies (like not requiring IDs) that cause the Republicans to question elections.

It’s pretty simple. And when there is voter fraud….point it out and prosecute it…and in the linked source I provide…why would a party want a person involved in an election that had previously admitted to voter fraud.

None of this answers either of my questions.

 

[Boiler Buck]

Do you think this demonstrates? I have not disputed that the numbers were revised.

A sheep rarely knows it's being herded.

But your master will get it done by hook or crook.....so fire up another J and relax.

 

[JBoiler23]

A sheep rarely knows it's being herded.

But your master will get it done by hook or crook.....so fire up another J and relax.

So no answer, then?

 

[TheGunner]

None of this answers either of my questions.

Here are the answers to your questions.

Would you agree that the kind of voter fraud that has been claimed by Trump et al--and the kind that could, if it existed in any significant numbers, affect election results--has been the submission of votes that were, themselves illegal (dead people, non-citizens, double votes, etc.)?

I don’t care if Trump wants to argue about voter fraud and don’t care about his reason. So I’m not going to research what his reasons are nor comment about a point that’s already been decided. Decided meaning…who won…not Trump. Who’s in the WH, Biden. Case closed.

If so, would you also agree that the instance you've referenced here does not fit that description, as the votes in question were, seemingly, legal?

I don’t understand how a vote is “seemingly” (great term for a “legal” discussion) legal in an election fraud case. So, no, I disagree with your point in Q2, but I’m not going to look up AZ election to see if I’m right.

 

[BB62]

Shoot the Biden/K2 lied to America about the number of jobs their watch supposedly created. Only off by over 800,000++ jobs.

But it was the right thing to do. We can't let America know how bad our economy is, or they would go nuclear against us and vote Trump.

So you see, it's what good for America. K2 knows what's best. And if they have to lie to us....it's just for our own good. K2....she knows what's best. Her registration and vote harvester lackeys do too.....they will take care of it. Wait and see. It's what's best.....just ask K2.

I guess you were watching trump tonight. He seemed to have trouble explaining it. Rather Bidenesque don't you think?

 

[JBoiler23]

Here are the answers to your questions.

Would you agree that the kind of voter fraud that has been claimed by Trump et al--and the kind that could, if it existed in any significant numbers, affect election results--has been the submission of votes that were, themselves illegal (dead people, non-citizens, double votes, etc.)?

I don’t care if Trump wants to argue about voter fraud and don’t care about his reason. So I’m not going to research what his reasons are nor comment about a point that’s already been decided. Decided meaning…who won…not Trump. Who’s in the WH, Biden. Case closed.

But you were the one who responded to a claim that most of the voter fraud from 2020 was republicans with this particular example, seemingly to refute it. But now, instead of just admitting that your example didn't support the point you were apparently trying to make, you're running away from it by saying you don't care what Trump says about voter fraud, as if demonstrating that voter fraud was committed by democrats, and not republicans, WASN'T your original intent.

If so, would you also agree that the instance you've referenced here does not fit that description, as the votes in question were, seemingly, legal?

I don’t understand how a vote is “seemingly” (great term for a “legal” discussion) legal in an election fraud case. So, no, I disagree with your point in Q2, but I’m not going to look up AZ election to see if I’m right.

I described those votes as "seemingly" legal because no indication was given in either of your links to suggest that the individual votes in question were, themselves, illegal (ie, submitted by people who were not eligible to vote or who had already voted previously). I was saying that it "seems to me" that those were legal votes, even if they were turned in via an illegal method. So, since I have no reason to believe they were illegal, I view them as "seemingly" legal, though I cannot be more definitive because there's also no indication in the articles that supports the legality of those votes. I'm simply going with the numbers that the vast, vast majority of people who cast votes are, in fact, legal voters.

 

[Boiler Buck]

I guess you were watching trump tonight. He seemed to have trouble explaining it. Rather Bidenesque don't you think?

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No, I'm on vacation in Arkansas. Saw beautiful Petite Jean State Park with my grandkids since Thursday. So no, haven't seen much TV these last few days....or watched a T rally in my life.

But at breakfast and while my wife drives it's been fun messing & joking with Dem folks like you. All in fun though....So try not to have an anxiety attack over your hate, and politics being your God.

For me it's....God & Family first and everything flows from that. Politics is interesting to me mainly because I have the Love of Jesus before everything and that caused me to love the middle class & what is best for them. To see your hate controlling your actions and your vote is kinda sad to me. Chose Love.

 

[Katscratch]

There is still great reason for Hope for Dems in PA.

Sure officials caught on to rookies cheating here, But surely this is just the tip of the spear as this is just a few thousand. BUT just think about the experienced cheaters and the hundreds of thousands that weren't caught yet. Never fear!! K2 might come out with a solid blue wall yet.

Hang in there Dems --- there still great reason for Hope. Your cheating minions will get 'er done.

Voter registration application fraud case widens

A company has been named in connection with the case.

www.wgal.com

K2's minions of cheaters have got this for her.....it's in the bag. After all, it's the right thing to do, is it not??

So come out of the corner, and for heavens sake, quit that rocking and sucking your thumb. It will be ok.....and you won't need those psych evaluation appointments after all.
Hang in there.

A sheep rarely knows it's being herded.

But your master will get it done by hook or crook.....so fire up another J and relax.