Has Hazell set a record?
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Too soon to say for sure. 1921 to 23 we were at 4-16-2 for a 20% win percentage ( 4 of 20). If we win out we are at 22%. Otherwise we are below 20% for the last 3 seasons. Or, you could argue that we only won 4 of 22 games between 21 and 23 (ties are not wins) which is only 18.2% so if we finish 3-9 this year we would be 19.4%.
He has the worst winning percentage of anyone to coach more than 7 games. He is currently 6 - 26. No one who has coached more than 15 games has fewer wins. He is historically bad. He might be one of the worst B1G coaches, ever.
i wouldn't count the wins against Division 2 schools, so actually its worse than that
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Who was the last B1G coach to be brought back for a 4th season after winning a total of 2 conference games in his first 3 years?
He is currently the Purdue and soon to be NCAA record holder for minutes spent reviewing film without getting a clue.
We dont need to add in subjective strength ratings to make the case he is the worst purdue coach ever. Even with I-AA (not division 2, there is a difference) wins, he is objectively awful.
I've wondered this too.
Obviously our AD is the best ever at spotting PROGRESS where
Ya, Rick Venturi -- 1-31-1 in three years at Northwestern (1978-1980) has to be statistically the worst 3-year stretch in at least modern B1G history.
Frank Lauterbur -- 4-28-1 (3-22-1 B1G) in three years at Iowa (1971-1973) is another one who comes to mind.
Frank Lauterbur -- 4-28-1 (3-22-1 B1G) in three years at Iowa (1971-1973) is another one who comes to mind.
And was fired after those 3 years... from IU. Too bad they didn't have MB to spot the PROGRESS. Instead they hired Hoeppner who nearly got them to a bowl game in his 2nd year.
Yes but Valek won 3 B1G games in 1967, his first season, so he doesn't count.
So, Hazell would be the ONLY B1G coach EVER to get brought back for a 4th season after winning 2 conference games in his first 3 seasons.
Wow.
If these facts are correct,What a slap in the face to all Purdue fans by announcing before the season is over that Hazell is returning.Mediocrity is now our new normal at Purdue
Purdue football wishes it was mediocre.
New Pal: that could be true, but I don't think we have a comprehensive list. Tim Brewster was pretty bad in his tenure at Minnesota, and I seem to recall Wisky going through en epic 4 or 5 year stretch of futility immediately before Barry Alvarez. Can't remember the details on either.
A lot of those bad seasons were pre 85 scholarship limit. Used to be 100 so ND, OSU, Michigan, etc. would sign 15 guys who may not crack their lineup, but could play for your team and contribute. That makes this stretch more amazing.
I think Lee Corso won two,lost 21 and tied one in 1973 through 1975 with IU, then coached there for seven more years,winning about 41 games overall,with one bowl appearance,and about 28 league wins in ten years,and some people claim he was great at IU.But at least he was always funny.
Man,I doubt if we have any fans who can recall the 1921 through 1923 teams.And there cant be many alive who remember the last time IU beat Purdue three times in a row,1945 through 1947.
The loss at the end of the season will be epic, it will make more history perhaps by the number of points IU lights us up for.
I never thought Fred Akers would look so good, bless his heart.
If we discount any out of conference wins/losses, does Hazell have the record yet? 1 - ??
This. Let's just cut to the chase. The only win of any quality that we've had in the past three years was the win at IL. The NE win was win a walk on back up that all but handed us the game. Forget the FCS wins. We are in all time bad territory and if you're a Boiler fan, it's all time bad.
UCF got it right. Midway through one lousy season basically forced into retirement the coach/acting AD who put the program on the map. Then hired a young dynamic AD to hire a coach. This is a program that is broke and they will end up with a better coach than Purdue. As a P5 conference member we have way more resources and $$$ than 100 of the programs ahead of us now. Our problem is a Prez who doesn't think being at least mediocre in FB matters and flat incompetent, checked out AD.
He will look good- maybe on cold days he can get a fur collar for his North Face vest. Then join his sorority sisters at Discount Den for a Den Pop.
What I take away from this
1. Mollenkopf was a baller. Now I see why he got a building named after him.
2. Jim Young had success. But why did he leave after 1 bad year??
3. If you don't find success here within the first 3 years. There is no chance it gets any better. By the third year we either become a winning program or we don't.
4. Elmer Burnham from the 40's. He took a 1 win team and turned it into a undefeated team, then he left. What happened with him?
Also, Dennis Green with Northwestern went 5-28 his first three years ('81-'83). He finished up 2-9 and 3-8 his last two seasons to finish 10-45 (7-37 in conference play).
The Wildcats WERE who we THOUGHT they WERE!
Addendum:
NW has the modern Big Ten futility stretch from '76 - '81 spanning three coaches (last two years of John Pont, Rick Venturi, and Denny Green's 1st year) and winning a whopping 3 games, going 3 - 62 - 1 (2 - 50 - 1 in conference play). I remember them being bad and setting the record for consecutive losses, but I didn't realize it was actually that futile. Arguably, back then for a school like NW, it was a lot tougher to be competitive with the way scholarships worked.
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You want to know how good Jim Young was? He took Army.......yes, West Point (that Army....well after the Doc Blanchard, Glen Davis Army days) to three Bowl games (going 2-1) before there were 50,000 of them a season.
One of my good friends also hinted that Young stepped aside or didn't make more of a deal with his departure because of rumors surrounding the Arizona program. I have no idea, but I was sorry to see him leave, and I think that '84 team could have been even better under Jim Young, no disrespect to Coach Burtnett intended.
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