Great day for gun rights!
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With the way our system is set up it is impossible to pass meaningful legislation.
You said Conservatives know this is unpopular and they’re hiding behind states rights. No, we’re supporting the upholding of the Constitution and overturning federal overreach. That’s what the Supreme Court is responsible for. Your babbling won’t change a thing.
Why? Is the drinking age the same? Is the right to smoke weed the same? Is the right to possess drugs the same in every state?
is the death penalty the same?
No, the fact that morons keep voting on the extremes is why meaningful legislation can't be passed. And quite frankly, the way the media divides all of us is another reason. The system is meant for compromise. Not for one side getting their way...
Of course being popular is important. People vote based on nominating Supreme Court justices. Spinning unpopular decisions is important to the people pushing for those decisions.
Again, you're confusing Constitutional rights with those that haven't been defined by the Constitution. You really need to better understand what Constitutional rights are...
The system is meant for compromise I agree. I think the reason it doesnt work anymore is that over the years the parties have jockeyed for position by changing positions on issues until the voters have sorted into the parties with very little overlap. Thus they can’t progress on the middle ground issues because they have no voters in the other party to appeal to on any issues. Natural outcome of this system. Need to shake things up to make it easier to pass legislation.
So, a state could legalize murder if they wanted to and the Supreme Court would uphold it?
This person is clueless about our Constitutional Republic. If it were up to him/her, the federal government would make the laws for all the states. In essence, he/she is promoting an autocratic/dictatorial form of government and the states would have few/no rights to make laws as they see fit for their constituents.
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Of course, by “shake things up” you mean pack the court with liberal judges, eliminate the electoral college, make Washington DC and Puerto Rico states….You’re not looking for middle ground at all.
All you want to do is change the rules of governance so that you can get your left-wing wishlist codified.
Goodness sakes. You really don't understand the role of the Supreme Court. Do I need to dumb this down for you to understand? The Constitution says what the Constitution says. The Judicial branch interprets the Constitution. The Legislative branch has the power to amend it. Presidents, who are elected, nominate Justices. But Congress has to ratify them. The last 2 Justices were nominated by a Republican President, but ratified by a Democratically controlled Congress. The same thing could be said for other Justices nominated by A Democrat President.
Again, if you want to amend the Constitution, then elect members of the Senate and House to meet that "popular" need. If abortion were that "popular" and important from a priority perspective, then the people would elect Congress members to change it. But right now, that's not the case. And you'll see why come November...
This is insane. Murder is Constitutional? Where does it say THAT in the Constitution. You’re just being obtuse.
Do people vote for candidates based on who they think they will nominate for the court or not?
Really?
Here's a poll from Rasmussen, best you're gonna get.
Abortion: Two-Thirds of Voters Favor Limits
More voters describe themselves as pro-choice than pro-life, but a significant majority support state laws that limit how late in a pregnancy an abortion can be performed.
I know it doesn't matter. Rasmussen is now a Rino poll or the site has been hacked or something. Just go with the current standard strategy. Ignore the facts and repeat the lie over and over.
So, states are trying to outlaw abortion because it is murder and the right to life is guaranteed by the constitution, correct? So, this cannot be a states rights issue if people are arguing against abortion based on rights guaranteed by the constitution. Why not just say that you are outlawing abortion because it is murder then? Why go through this states rights charade?
The argument for banning abortion is that it is murder. This means it is not a states rights issue. Why not just say you are outlawing abortion because it is murder? Why bring states rights into it?
I’m not arguing whether abortion should be a right. I’m arguing that the reason given for banning abortion is that it is murder. This means it is not a states rights issue.
WTF are blathering about now? He said that the Supreme Court decision was unpopular and that conservatives were hiding behind states rights.Really?
Here's a poll from Rasmussen, best you're gonna get.
Abortion: Two-Thirds of Voters Favor Limits
More voters describe themselves as pro-choice than pro-life, but a significant majority support state laws that limit how late in a pregnancy an abortion can be performed.www.rasmussenreports.com
I know it doesn't matter. Rasmussen is now a Rino poll or the site has been hacked or something. Just go with the current standard strategy. Ignore the facts and repeat the lie over and over.
What you posted doesn’t prove anything except the point I was making. WTG Bob.
Cool. Cool? No, why would they? If Democrats want to change things, they control all levers of power right now. Feel free to change things. The Supreme Court is doing what the Supreme Court is there to do which is protect the Constitution. Your babbling won’t change that.
You don’t think people vote for a president because they get to nominate supreme court justices?
States aren't arguing anything. The Supreme Court has ruled that abortion rights aren't specifically stated in the Federal Constitution and therefore can't be federally protected. You keep saying that someone is arguing State's rights. It has nothing to do with State's rights. The ruling just means it's up to each state (their voters) to determine if abortion will be legal in that state. How difficult is this for you to understand?
I was responding to a comment made in this thread and comments I have seen in other threads in this very site. Many times I have seen people say “leaving it up to the states like it should”. People repeatedly in this thread are saying it should be a states right.
That's likely one of the last reasons why people are voting for a President since they're generally unlikely to nominate anyone during their tenure. And I'd bet a majority of voters don't understand how the Supreme Court Justice replacement process even works...
You’re responding to all kinds of things tonight. Seems like many are struggling with the SCOTUS doing their job.
They're likely saying that because there's no where in the Constitution where abortion would be considered a federal right...
Just 1 study showing Supreme Court is important to presidential race voters.
The Supreme Court as an electoral issue: evidence from three studies | Political Science Research and Methods | Cambridge Core
The Supreme Court as an electoral issue: evidence from three studies - Volume 10 Issue 1
I remember from a previous screen name of yours that you don’t like things that are too complicated. You should probably not engage in discussions that may get too complicated for you.
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