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It is needed (or something other than halfcourt M2M from time-to-time). Have you seen Purdue's man-to-man D vs. high-caliber teams in any big game of the last 36+ seasons? More times than not, it's unable to help get the Boilers a W in those type of games.
look I've tried to explain some zone and man on here. I have also seen many high caliber teams win with man...I have seen more teams win with man than zone because most prefer man for many reasons I have already stated. None of this says you couldn't win in a zone. Dakota Girl has mentioned many times the requirement of man skills to be good in a zone and I previously listed Blob Fuller at Anderson Madison Heights as requiring his players from freshman down to play nothing but man so they could play nothing but zone in high school. It has also been mentioned that most consider man to be the defense that will improve the most over the course of the season. You for whatever reason dismiss all the deficiencies of a zone predicated on court position (never saw a court score) and focus on what you see are problems with a m2m defense even though we know only players score baskets ...not the court.
Could Purdue have been a winning program playing a zone all these years...yes. However, you don't get something without giving up things and I'm just not convinced that a zone defense is the biggest issue with this team. You seem focused on that and it is okay...THAT is your focus for whatever reasons you list the pros being more important than the cons of a zone. Who am I to need you to see things the way I do? I offered reasons...not for just a player, but the team concepts of WHY I think what I do. I offered for three years for anyone to tell me what a zone will do that man couldn't over the course of the game. I graduated from Purdue 40 years ago and was watching the boilers before and believe me ...you can win with man. I initially grew up a Butler fan watching them over 50 years ago. In my estimation of at least the last 40 years I may have missed seeing in some capacity one or two games Purdue has played in. It is not as though I just started paying attention to basketball becasue I can remember when jump balls were a focus of teaching as they were very important and needed covered. More often than not...the really good teams over the years have played man and most teams play man today....but if you think zone is crucial that is your right...just like another may fixate on a 1-5 ball screen as being crucial. Ya know, 2000 people see a high school game (even with class basketball) ane there are MANY opinions of what went on. Obviously they cannot all be correct and some no doubt have more understanding than others...seeing different opinions from fans in this forum should be expected. If you want to fixate on a zone...who am I to say you can't hold that opinion? I just don't see it that important in the whole scheme of what is going on in comparison to other things.
Could you imagine the quick, athletic jumpers of U of L had Purdue went to a zone and made it even more difficult to block those guys out?
I don't know why you bother. Nag is so unwilling to acknowledge a position contrary to his own that there is no value whatsoever in debating him.
No doubt. When you give up 90 to Louisville your man D just isn't getting it done.
I wonder the same things...but as you can see my desire to maybe shine a light for something never considered persists in spite of good sense it appears.
I've never said you can't win with man D. I've just said that a team doesn't have to play it EVERY SINGLE POSSESSION of a game. I've said sprinkling in zones or traps from time-to-time might be more effective than playing man every possession of every game. YOU GUYS are the ones that fail to understand these statements.
I'm going to try to make this as clear as possible after several failures. I have no issue with Matt sprinkling in a zone. I wish it were part of his tool box. THAT said, I don't care if he doesn't play it as I think it is minor. It will not bother me if he doens't play zone or does play zone as I do NOT think it is a key to the success of this team for MANY reasons I have said in the past. There are things "I" think it could help with at times ...possibly, and there are obviously things it won't. The difference is although I wish it were another tool in the tool box, "I" fully understand the reasons why it isn't and they are very valid and that is why my own preference of it being in the toolbox is a very small concern for me.
You have a much larger desire and want to see it. I don't care if he uses it or doesn't as I can see reasons why he would never use it...even though I think in rare occasions it could be helpful.
Ok, that's great. I'm pretty sure at some point awhile ago you stated that you wouldn't want to ever see Purdue play zones or anything other than man-to-man. Now you say you don't care whether or not they play something other than man-to-man. That's progress, however minute it may be.
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