For instance; the S&P started the day up. Now this is the headline:
S&P 500 falls, continuing February woes, as Trump affirms tariffs coming
S&P 500 falls, continuing February woes, as Trump affirms tariffs coming
For those that praise Chump’s tariffs
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Yes, like working to seal the southern border to limit sex and child trafficking and drug entry - and to remove criminals from the nation.
No wonder you and katjmetc hate him.
Don't think you do. The markets are always looking ahead. While earnings and news can have an immediate effect, the markets are primarily based on the future.
Egg prices could jump 41% this year, USDA says, as Trump's bird flu plan is unveiled
The Trump administration believes a renewed emphasis on biosecurity can help in the battle against bird flu and ease egg prices.apnews.com
Coincidence?
Thanks for repeating that worn-out cliche about markets "always looking ahead." Any other cliches you want to share?
As I write this, the SP 500 market is down .02% for the day, which is nothing anyone with intelligence would be hysterical about. Markets have corrections on a regular basis so I am sure you are looking forward to the next one to feel vindicated.
You and Jared are desperate for Trump to fail so you won't feel like complete fools for backing Biden, but it is far too late for that.
Market corrections would be 100% fine if that were all that was wrong.
Bad employment numbers, deteriorating consumer confidence, renewed inflation after about a year without inflation, and anti-US trade boycotts at the same time as a market correction? That's not good. And the narcissist in the White House is doubling down on causing problems.
Here's an extraordinary Trump self-own (there are so, so many):
With the economy booming just before the last election on October 30, 2024, Trump went on camera and said that the reason the economy was booming is because the markets were thinking Trump would be elected.
Enjoy:
With the economy booming just before the last election on October 30, 2024, Trump went on camera and said that the reason the economy was booming is because the markets were thinking Trump would be elected.
Enjoy:
And if Trump, heaven forbid, finds a way to end the slaughter in Ukraine it will be even worse for our economy. Just ask Bob.
Better unload your defense contractor stocks before peace breaks out!
It's interesting to note that when presented with so much data that the economic downturn is more than a market correction, your response is to pivot to a hope in Ukraine that is really unlikely; that is, that the war ends without Putin getting everything he hoped for when he invaded a sovereign American ally.
But, hey, if Trump literally giving Putin a blow job ends a war? That'd be great. Hell, he's been blowing Putin for years. All while Putin is trying to grab land from sovereign countries and send bots into the Trump cult info-sphere.
So if Trump were to continue sucking off Putin and that war ended without Ukraine become part of a new Soviet Union? Yay.
It appears your vocabulary has been perverted by your ongoing prison experience. Is that just a normal way to talk in the prison block?
Here is something from government-sponsored radio about Trump and Putin in the first term.
Had to go back to 2018 to find an article that speculates that Trump may (or may not) be tough on Russia?
Besides, I thought the Trump company line is that we should be kneeling before Russia and that Ukraine is the bad guy who caused the invasion.
Are you saying that you think Russia invaded Ukraine and that Putin is a bad guy?
When a president cancels oil pipelines and petroleum leases on Day One, that drives up the price of fuel for years. This in turn drives up the cost of every agricultural item. It will take years to reverse the Biden blunders and bring gas prices down again.
No, I assumed you would "swallow it" if it came from the hacks at NPR.
Here's another from last week.
Trump’s move to closer ties with Russia does not mean betrayal of Ukraine, yet – in his first term, Trump was pretty tough on Putin
Trump is a transactional president, and US companies could profit if the country aligns with Russia – or backs Ukraine, depending on what is involved for the US.
"Markets looking forward" is a cliche' ? You're saying it's not true? Like you, everybody should just look at today's performance?
I can't decide if you're this stupid or it's impossible for you to be embarrassed by some of these statements you make that are clearly false. I guess you think if you double down it's better than admitting you're wrong.
I have no trouble deciding about you after you couldn't understand the incomparable stupidity of closing Bagram air base before our people and allies were out.
Btw, I am saying that markets can be greatly wrong - which limits the value of the cliche. Not that that would keep you and other mindless libs like katjm from repeating the cliche whenever you think it helps you make whatever foolish point you are trying to make at the time.
No, that's not what you were saying. That's what you are saying NOW as you try to escape the clutches of reason you disingenuous dolt.
CAN BE? It was a declarative statement before. Now it's can be. This is how you try to wiggle out of these arguments you seem to enjoy . As long as there's the smallest of chances something isn't true you argue your point is valid. It's just one of the several argument fallacies you use for kicks.
The obvious tell is Bagram. You bring it up like what, once a week lol? It's your default deflection when your argument peters out.
The clutches of reason from you? That is the real lol.
The 'declarative statement' was that it is a 'worn out cliche'. You pushed back and said, yes, but that doesn't mean it isn't true. My response, which was apparently too complicated for you to understand, was that it "can be greatly wrong." I assumed you would know this, given the tech bubble of 2000, the meltdown of 2008, and the numerous yearly forecasts of 'market analysts' that turn out to be completely off despite their alleged reading of 'markets looking forward.'
I apologize for overestimating your intelligence. I need to keep reminding myself of your famous Bagram post when estimating how much you will be able to understand of even the obvious.
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Another option:
If you don't want to be completely owned by BB62 on a regular basis, stop posting disingenuous bullshit.
And hold your disingenuous bullshit insults of me for another occasion. You know I'm right so suck it up and do better.
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Sucking up to Bob again, katJMetc, because he and fauxgrad are about the only ones on this board who share in your Trump hysteria?
Do you talk this tough in the cell block?
Trump's threat of tariffs against Mexico has been a H*U*G*E success. In just a month, Mexico has reduced the number of migrants headed north to near zero. Even the far-left NY Times acknowledges that Trump's strategy has had remarkable results:
I'm curious; did you even read the article or just the headline?
If you believe the article:
- It's really good news
- The influx of migrants at the border has been dramatically dropping since the spring of 2024 and by now has almost been eliminated.
- Therefore, when Trump campaigned on the issue and threatened tariffs over it, he was doing so for an issue that no longer existed as a vital problem.
Yes, illegal immigration became such a political liability for Democrats that they forced Biden to stop the open border lunacy before the November elections. It didn't work. Trump won anyway.
Generally? Yes—true.
And therefore Trump‘s threats of tariffs or actual imposition of tariffs are a massively unnecessary drag on the economy.
Trump's threat of tariffs is working to perfection. The reason that the lunatic open policy was stopped was Trump. Period.
So now your contention is that Trump‘s threats of tariffs in January 2025 produced a precipitous decline in immigrants over the Mexican border in April 2024.
Gotcha.
No, the polls showed that Trump was ahead of both Biden and Harris and that immigration was one of the foremost reasons. Biden caved and reversed his lunatic open border policies circa April 2024.
Agree that it was a campaign issue.
So we agree that the tariffs this year didn't affect the already all-but-solved problem.
Oh, the threat of tariffs has done a lot to goose Mexico into migrant control. Mexico has deployed 10K national guardsmen to help control migrants and now the Mexican president has a permanent reason to continue doing so.
Your suggestion that Biden was enforcing immigration control is absurd. We all know he was the problem, not the solution.
Interesting.....
Can you point to the specific policy Biden enacted late in his presidency that would have resulted in such a massive drop off in illegal border crossings ?
I agree with Quixote - it was becoming a weight on his campaign, and primarily for that reason he (or his senior advisers) held enforcement accountable. Not sure about the empirical evidence for that reasoning though.
Yay -- some of you are claiming victory thanks to Trumpy!
So riddle the me this: why are we doing those tariffs on Mexico anyway? Because the economy and markets sure are not okay with the news.
Is it because Vlad told Trump he's gotta and Comrade Krasnov is just following orders?
So riddle the me this: why are we doing those tariffs on Mexico anyway? Because the economy and markets sure are not okay with the news.
Is it because Vlad told Trump he's gotta and Comrade Krasnov is just following orders?
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Before we get to that, first answer this for me:
When Vlad and Comrade Krasnov are alone, who do you think is the pitcher, and who is the catcher?
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Don't follow your cell block lingo, Jared. Which role do you take there with the other pervert convicts?
I'm trying not to get too graphic, but if you insist I'll re-state:
When Trump, aka Comrade Krasnov and Putin have sexual relations, what sexual position do you think Trump takes? I'm thinking that Trump is the subservient servicer of Putin, but you're a big Trump fan so maybe you think they alternate?
I'm not glad you asked for clarification, but I guess now at least we will know whether you think Trump services or gets serviced sexually by Putin. AND PLEASE STAY ON POINT!! We are discussing Trump's sexual attraction to Putin. Ready? GO!
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You are diverting again. The question was for you.
Now I’m not in any cell block, but since you specifically asked me to speculate I will;
I would guess that yours and Donald J Trump’s shared dream come true would be a Donald Trump/@Riveting/Vladimir Putin three way sex sandwich.
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