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I did. I attended the games. I saw the side line. I saw his interactions. I saw the disarray on the side line.
I have season tickets and I don't drink much so no beer goggles for me. So I had front line view. I called it out after Fresno State.
That's why I'm banned from the pickle licking that was happening over in On3.
Never blamed Brohm, BoBo on the other hand still deserves all the blame. Got fleeced by Brohms departure, made a series of unforced errors, and then tried to double down … we would still be stuck with Walters if he’d had his way
Really. You said 1-11 and getting destroyed consistently in 2024 with all the talent we had?
Brohm deserves all the crap he got and is getting for how he left
“Fleeced by Brohm leaving”? Are you implying bobinski was the only human in America that didn't know Brohm was leaving?
“Tried to double down”? What the hell does this mean?
Yes, BoBo clearly had no plan despite it being the worst kept secret in West LaLa.
And double down, BoBo had everything in place for Walters year 3 with a new slate of assistant coaches and it took the board of trustees stepping in to make a move. BoBo is the worst AD in the history of Purdue, and should have been canned with Walters
Not so sure this year will be much better than the last couple. Coach O still needs to prove he can recruit and coach with the movers and shakers of the B10. Haven't noticed any stud superstars who have tripped over each other getting to the field.
4 wins max with a slim chance at 5.
4 wins max with a slim chance at 5.
He had no plan based on what?
What evidence is there bobinski was going to keep Walters? Why is he the worst in history?
People are always enthused with a new coach. Nothing wrong with people being skeptical until we see what we have. That doesn't make you a bad fan.
Based on Walters even being a candidate…it was an obviously mistake, and he’d had months of time to prepare…fireable offense.
BoBo stated he planned to keep Walters in multiple posts and there were real plans in motion to hire new assistants.
Worst in history…despite millions in new tv revenue Bobo becomes the first AD to have to take money from the ret of the university (and it isn’t a small amount) to cover massive deficits in his budget. Further, all programs except basketball (and he gets no credit for Painter) are falling off or falling apart
Why was Walters a bad candidate?
Don't think the universe gives money to athletics, so no idea what you are talking about.
Yes. He was going to keep Walters until the end. But also, when Walters is at purdue, what's he supposed to say? I'm Going to fire this dude?
All programs? That's just wrong.
He also hired Brohm. Ame Odom seems like a really good hire on paper. So he is 1-1 and looking like maybe 2-1. Unless odom forgot how to build a program and coach.
I don't fault Bobo for hiring Walters as it has worked elsewhere so was worth the chance since he really was rather in a bind with Brohm leaving.
Hindsight is always 20/20 so it's easy now to say Walters was a bad hire (he was) and it was painfully evident last season but to your point, you don't come out and say publicly anything other than supporting the coach (which also to your point, we've seen other programs do countless times) as it's bad optics otherwise, especially if you're looking for a new coach.
One thing I think is safe to say, whatever we as fans THINK is going on behind the scenes with both football and basketball I can probably guarantee is 100% wrong. Odom was hired pretty quick really so it sure seems like discussions had been going on already before the season was over.
I won't say "bad hire" but after following Purdue football for a lot of years, my personal experience is going to be trepidation for any hire that isn't an "offense first" coach/system, and when I say offense, something other than a run oriented one.
I will…and there were many on here at the time of his hire making these arguments who were proven right.
Lack of Head Coaching Experience: This was the most prominent concern. Walters had never previously served as a head coach at any level. Stepping into a head coaching role in a Power Five conference like the Big Ten, especially at a program like Purdue seeking to build on recent success, was a significant leap. The demands of leading an entire program, managing a large staff, fundraising, and being the public face of the team are vastly different from those of a coordinator.
Youth and Inexperience in Program Leadership: At 36 years old when hired, Walters was one of the youngest head coaches in FBS football. While youth can bring energy and relatability in recruiting, it can also raise questions about the depth of experience needed to navigate the complexities of managing a Power Five program, including building a coaching staff, developing a long-term vision, and handling the inevitable adversities of a season. There were concerns about whether he possessed the established coaching tree and network to assemble a top-tier staff, especially on the offensive side, given his defensive background.
Defensive Background for a Traditionally Offensive-Minded Program: Purdue has a modern history and identity often associated with offensive innovation, notably under coach Joe Tiller and his "basketball on grass" philosophy. Hiring a defensive-minded coach represented a departure from this tradition. Some observers might have questioned whether a defensive coach could maintain or reignite the offensive excitement that Purdue fans had come to expect and that had often been key to the program's competitiveness.
Relatively Short Stint as a Top-Tier Coordinator: While Walters' two-year stint as defensive coordinator at Illinois was highly successful, with the Illini defense ranking among the nation's best in 2022, the relatively brief period of elite success could have been a point of caution. Questions might have arisen about the sustainability of that success and whether it was a large enough sample size to project head coaching effectiveness. For insiders it had to be clear that Bielema was running the defense, as he had at Arkansas and Wisconsin.
These factors, centering on his lack of head coaching experience, youth, fit with Purdue's traditional identity, and the relatively short duration of his peak coordinator success, were potential reasons why some might have viewed Ryan Walters as a risky or "bad" hire for the Purdue head coaching position at the time, independent of how his tenure ultimately unfolded.
As noted, I have some trepidation. That's compounded by
a. A basically brand new roster
b. No "home run" QB (although it should be noted in the modern era that's exactly what Purdue has succeeded with)
c. Coaches ability to "gel" all these players who've for the most part have never played together or in this system before
d. My belief that all teams in the portal era are going to have to go vanilla in play calling for reasons "a" & "c' above, which then leaves success based a lot more on talent
So my 2 cents aside from zero head coach experience, he wasn't pulled from a high caliber team like other coordinators that were successful.
Bobo was trying to capture lightning in a bottle, but got a lightning bug instead.
Questionable hire is clearly in play though. Small sample size of success, no head coaching experience. I think there was potential for Walters to be a reach hire from the get go, and it certainly proved out. I don't remember anyone being outright excited about him.
Ya. Good news is Odom has proven he can work with all of the above and succeed. Curious to see Browne with actual coaching.
With the talent he seemingly had and brought in, I'm sure the hope was he could stay afloat while learning. Probably needed a guy like Jerry Kill under him. I still think Walters will be good in time.
How? Why?
He’s demonstrated 0 in game coaching or program management skills.
Those can be learned but his “bro” “one of the guys” philosophy in running a program coupled with a scheme that doesn’t work and doesn’t adjust will be his undoing anywhere he goes without huge oversight.
He didn’t show he was open to, or capable of any change while here. In fact, he got worse.
But sure, he’s a brand new man now!
Never said he was a brand new man. Just because he didn't try to change here doesn't kwan he can't or won't
Because he’s proven to be a historically terrible coach…. What about his head coaching tenure makes you think he will be good other than that he’s still young?
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