Expectations to high or am I getting old?

[Mandeville LA]

New poster- not a troll. Been watching Purdue Basketball for a long time. Steve Read was my favorite player when I was in Jr. High (just dated myself).

Anyway, I watched the exhibition game and came away thinking we are not as explosive as I thought we would be considering the competition. Maybe AJ would have added an element that would have made us look a little better. I know it was a first game against a scrappy team. Maybe I am overreacting.

See, my wife went to Kansas and I have been telling here that Purdue is going to be lights out come 2016 for about four years and she looks at me, like every year and rolls her eyes.

 

[BBG]

You're getting old. Not explosive? We went from a tight game to a 20 point lead in a blink.

 

[slidde01]

No

New poster- not a troll. Been watching Purdue Basketball for a long time. Steve Read was my favorite player when I was in Jr. High (just dated myself).

Anyway, I watched the exhibition game and came away thinking we are not as explosive as I thought we would be considering the competition. Maybe AJ would have added an element that would have made us look a little better. I know it was a first game against a scrappy team. Maybe I am overreacting.

See, my wife went to Kansas and I have been telling here that Purdue is going to be lights out come 2016 for about four years and she looks at me, like every year and rolls her eyes.

t sure if you are too old, but you appear to be blind.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

New poster- not a troll. Been watching Purdue Basketball for a long time. Steve Read was my favorite player when I was in Jr. High (just dated myself).

Anyway, I watched the exhibition game and came away thinking we are not as explosive as I thought we would be considering the competition. Maybe AJ would have added an element that would have made us look a little better. I know it was a first game against a scrappy team. Maybe I am overreacting.

See, my wife went to Kansas and I have been telling here that Purdue is going to be lights out come 2016 for about four years and she looks at me, like every year and rolls her eyes.

Tell your wife I roll my eyes when people say Bill Self doesn't wear a toupee.

 

[Mandeville LA]

You're getting old. Not explosive? We went from a tight game to a 20 point lead in a blink.

Athletically- is what I was trying to say. Now I know why I am not a great poster. The one thing this team lacks (and I am not saying we cannot survive without it) is pure athleticism. Yes I know that Smotherman will not be out there, but can you remember a great Purdue team that did not have a great athlete out there for most of the game?

 

[BoilerBulldog]

Athletically- is what I was trying to say. Now I know why I am not a great poster. The one thing this team lacks (and I am not saying we cannot survive without it) is pure athleticism. Yes I know that Smotherman will not be out there, but can you remember a great Purdue team that did not have a great athlete out there for most of the game?

Maybe we have different definitions of the term "athlete", but in my neighborhood VE is the quintessential athlete. If he's not, I don't remember a PU team that had one.

 

[CRBoiler]

Who would qualify from the past? Lewis Jackson? JJ? Etwuan? Kramer?

I think Edwards passes the eye test, and Hill seems like an athlete also. Davis is no slouch.

 

[zigybean]

Exhibitions are just not a good yard stick to measure teams against. 2009 Syracuse lost to a div2 team, still went 30-5...

 

[BoilerDaddy]

Athletically- is what I was trying to say. Now I know why I am not a great poster. The one thing this team lacks (and I am not saying we cannot survive without it) is pure athleticism. Yes I know that Smotherman will not be out there, but can you remember a great Purdue team that did not have a great athlete out there for most of the game?

I also thought that Edwards showed nice athleticism, but more importantly, Purdue compensated for a lack of elite athleticism by moving the ball really well. I think that this is going to be a fun team to watch.

 

[SnowLeopard]

welcome on your first posts! mid 40s isn't old at all.

keady's 2000 Elite Eight team suffered more from injury to an unathletic Jaraan Cornell than it benefited from the play of its most athletic player Mike Robinson (Robinson was what, the 4th or 5th most indispensable player on that team?)

Or a Robbie-less Purdue losing to Duke, it was close until their biggest and slowest brute clocked Kramer

speaking about unathletic, how about Wisconsin

back to mandeville's point, I think this team has a good mix. Hill is a good athlete who might be a better perimeter defender than Smotherman at this point. Vince will be a fantastic athlete if you play him at the 4. I think Painter will go with size first and if it proves that we really need athleticism more than we need size, than we will see Vince at the 4.

I love the flexibility that this roster gives us

 

[JohnHoosierr]

Thanks for the post. Totally get what you're saying about expressiveness. Our best athlete is sitting out for the year. Our team will have to depend on our front court strength and good defense. Will be funny watching our 4/5 combo this year.

 

[JohnHoosierr]

Thanks for the post. Totally get what you're saying about explosiveness. Our best athlete is sitting out for the year. Our team will have to depend on it's front court strength and good defense. Will be fun watching our 4/5 combo this year.

 

[Purdue Grad in Texas]

Steve Reid....one of my favorite Boilers.....tough as nails. Always remember his late game heroics against Iowa in 1983.....picking Hansen's pocket....then the game-winner.

 

[cprh9u]

I think it depends on what your expectations are. If you are expecting a 1 seed, a B1G championship and a final 4 appearance, you are probably going to be disappointed. This is a good, solid top 15-20 type team. We have a frontcourt that can match up with ANYONE in the country. Just my opinion, but I don't think we have the guard play to overcome the best teams in the tourney or Maryland in league play. I think we finish in the 2-4 range in the league, land a 3-5 seed and advance perhaps the sweet 16, although the tournament is about matchups more than anything, so that is much harder to predict. I do know that great guard play is a huge factor in who advances in the tournament, so I am really hoping KS can realize his potential and RD's offense (Which was solid last year) can match his defensive effort, which was spectacular.

 

[Mandeville LA]

welcome on your first posts! mid 40s isn't old at all.

keady's 2000 Elite Eight team suffered more from injury to an unathletic Jaraan Cornell than it benefited from the play of its most athletic player Mike Robinson (Robinson was what, the 4th or 5th most indispensable player on that team?)

Or a Robbie-less Purdue losing to Duke, it was close until their biggest and slowest brute clocked Kramer

speaking about unathletic, how about Wisconsin

back to mandeville's point, I think this team has a good mix. Hill is a good athlete who might be a better perimeter defender than Smotherman at this point. Vince will be a fantastic athlete if you play him at the 4. I think Painter will go with size first and if it proves that we really need athleticism more than we need size, than we will see Vince at the 4.

I love the flexibility that this roster gives us

I don't want to be miss understood here, I cannot think of very many Bilers that I did not like. A few did not work out, but no need to get into that. I think my worries come from how high my expectations are for this group. They should be a top ten team at some point this year.

The 2000 team is a black hole for me. I got shipped over to England to work for a year and did not see a single game. Was scared to death they were going to win it all in my absents.

Vince is a great basketball player and a good athlete. iMO he is not an eleate athlete, think Etwan.

 

[Mandeville LA]

I think it depends on what your expectations are. If you are expecting a 1 seed, a B1G championship and a final 4 appearance, you are probably going to be disappointed. This is a good, solid top 15-20 type team. We have a frontcourt that can match up with ANYONE in the country. Just my opinion, but I don't think we have the guard play to overcome the best teams in the tourney or Maryland in league play. I think we finish in the 2-4 range in the league, land a 3-5 seed and advance perhaps the sweet 16, although the tournament is about matchups more than anything, so that is much harder to predict. I do know that great guard play is a huge factor in who advances in the tournament, so I am really hoping KS can realize his potential and RD's offense (Which was solid last year) can match his defensive effort, which was spectacular.

It's all about shooting from our guards. If we can get better shooting than we have see recently the sky is the limit on this team. That's why I was happy to see that Cline is going to play this year. If we don't end up using him that much we might look back and wish he would have shirted. Too much of a gamble IMO because I think we are going to need his shooting during the BIG.

 

[mathboy]

New poster- not a troll. Been watching Purdue Basketball for a long time. Steve Read was my favorite player when I was in Jr. High (just dated myself).

Anyway, I watched the exhibition game and came away thinking we are not as explosive as I thought we would be considering the competition. Maybe AJ would have added an element that would have made us look a little better. I know it was a first game against a scrappy team. Maybe I am overreacting.

See, my wife went to Kansas and I have been telling here that Purdue is going to be lights out come 2016 for about four years and she looks at me, like every year and rolls her eyes.

The degree of "explosiveness" is limited by the way the game is played. You can only score once per possession and the other guys get the ball when you score. That will dictate a close game for some short period of time until one team or the other continues to score and then stops the opponent. We showed complete dominance as seen in the score. I think that no matter how good a team is comparatively, if the other team comes to play, they will score some points. It is the way the game is intended to be played.

 

[Mandeville LA]

The degree of "explosiveness" is limited by the way the game is played. You can only score once per possession and the other guys get the ball when you score. That will dictate a close game for some short period of time until one team or the other continues to score and then stops the opponent. We showed complete dominance as seen in the score. I think that no matter how good a team is comparatively, if the other team comes to play, they will score some points. It is the way the game is intended to be played.

So the team that scores the most points wins?

 

[atmafola]

I don't know if Purdue would be great for 4 years. Actually I dont see it. But we should be great for the next 2 with one of them possibly being magical. I think we are due to for a lull then year after that, and then depending on 2017 recruiting, we would have another good season in the 4th year.

 

[FleeTheScene]

I think what op means more than anything is that something that we are missing is that one guy that can get us a bucket when we absolutely have to have one, the role that etwaun filled in his time here. The thing about this team is it seems to be all about very deliberate motions and structure more than having a bunch of run and gunners like an Indiana say. We have a number of players that are definite candidates to be that person so I think there is definite reason to be excited and have high hopes, and I think as long as we have multiple guys that can step up when we need them, we don't necessarily have to have that one guy.

 

[spradecki]

New poster- not a troll. Been watching Purdue Basketball for a long time. Steve Read was my favorite player when I was in Jr. High (just dated myself).

Anyway, I watched the exhibition game and came away thinking we are not as explosive as I thought we would be considering the competition. Maybe AJ would have added an element that would have made us look a little better. I know it was a first game against a scrappy team. Maybe I am overreacting.

See, my wife went to Kansas and I have been telling here that Purdue is going to be lights out come 2016 for about four years and she looks at me, like every year and rolls her eyes.

i fully expect to win my ncaa bracket this year. guys i used to work with all fill out a bracket and throw in a few bucks to make it interesting. and i have picked the boilers as national champs for many years in a row. when i fill out the bracket i just think the mighty boilers will beat the next opponet in the bracket or could so i pick them. the guys just roll their eyes when they see mine each year. i've got em where i want em this year

 

[Mandeville LA]

Who would qualify from the past? Lewis Jackson? JJ? Etwuan? Kramer?

I think Edwards passes the eye test, and Hill seems like an athlete also. Davis is no slouch.

All of the above excluding Etwuan.

 

[proudopete]

All of the above excluding Etwuan.

Etwaun didn't look explosive, but he was. Outside of LJ, I would put him as the best on that team of getting past a defender. He would lull you to sleep and then zip, he was at the rim. Great player!

 

[BoilerDaddy]

Etwaun didn't look explosive, but he was. Outside of LJ, I would put him as the best on that team of getting past a defender. He would lull you to sleep and then zip, he was at the rim. Great player!

He was sneaky athletic. Vince is as well.

 

[Purdue Grad in Texas]

He was sneaky athletic. Vince is as well.

Tend to agree here. With E'Twaun Moore, I think some of the perception came from his game being primarily "below-the-rim." You go back and watch the 2011 game in Mackey Arena against Ohio State and tell me he's not athletic, and I've got a bridge to sell you.

With Vince Edwards, I think the more "assertive" he gets, the more he's going to continue to open some eyes. He didn't knock it down, but I don't think it was just coincidental that VE took the last shot in the NCAA game against Cincinnati. We shall see starting tonight.